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dresseme
Posted: June 14th, 2009, 12:23am Report to Moderator
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Here's the teaser trailer for the new, untitled Michael Moore film:

http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/untitled-michael-moore/teaser-trailer

I'm really wondering how the public will receive this one as "Sicko" seemed to pretty much fall through the cracks.  Which is a shame because, even though MM kind of annoys me now, "Sicko" was one of his less-confrontational films.

I'm wondering if everyone's just kind of Michael Moore'd out.
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Posted: June 14th, 2009, 7:34am Report to Moderator
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Looks interesting. I probably won't watch it, but I reckon it will be successful.


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dogglebe
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I think the working title was 'Another Piece of Shit From That Fat Fucking Bastard.'  Or something like that.  This was will disappear faster that Sicko because people understand hoe much he bullshits a way through a documentary and also because we're currently living in big economy distress.  We don't need to see his spin on it.


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Quoted from dogglebe
I think the working title was 'Another Piece of s*** From That Fat F**king Bastard.'  Or something like that.  This was will disappear faster that Sicko because people understand hoe much he bullshits a way through a documentary and also because we're currently living in big economy distress.  We don't need to see his spin on it.


Didn't I read you were Republican?

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dogglebe
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I'm a middle of the road extremist.  Doesn't matter though, I don't like bullshit artists.


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Andrew
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He can certainly be disingenuous, but you got to admit he was on the money with 'Roger and Me'?

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dogglebe
Posted: June 14th, 2009, 8:39am Report to Moderator
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Moore ruined Flint, Michigan, as much as GM did by closing. Flint was preparing for GM's close by building a convention center that would've brought in new revenue.  Moore's movie didn't include the convention center.  Instead, he should how the town was quickly dying out, with no chance of recovery.

The convention center was completed but no one wanted to use it because they thought that Flint, Michigan was the ghost town that Moore portrayed it to be.  And who'd want to have a convention in a ghost town?


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dogglebe
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He's a little nugget to chew on.  Manufacturing Dissent is a documentary about Michael Moore and how he does more movie magic than Harry Potter.  The best part is that Moore didn't want to be interviewed for it.


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Andrew
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The building of a convention centre wasn't the point, however. The strategy employed by GM has proven to be bad, like real bad. It's a microcosm of the wealth gap, which was the real point of the documentary.

Will watch that clip now.

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Andrew
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Ahhh, it's an IMDb link! Well, I will try and obtain a copy.

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Quoted from Andrew
The building of a convention centre wasn't the point, however. The strategy employed by GM has proven to be bad, like real bad. It's a microcosm of the wealth gap, which was the real point of the documentary.Andrew


If Moore wasn't so gung-ho in showing how badly Flint was suffering, that convention center would not have been such a failure.  He wanted to show everyone how badly Roger Smith was fucking up the town, not realizing that he was doing it, too.


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Andrew
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I don't think Moore turned Flint into some nosediving self-fulfilling prophecy. I think that understates the impact of GM on Flint. Big profits and greed is what nosedived Flint. It's really unfair to lay a significant portion of blame on Moore who, for all intents and purposes, was acting altruistically.

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dogglebe
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Moore concentrated on Smith, especially how he kept dodging his film crew.  Ironically, Moore dodged the film crew for Manufacturing Dissent.  He showed how the closing of the plant would leave Flint in a shithole state.  That's why no one wanted to use this new convention center....because Moore showed everyone how terrible the town was.


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I'm pretty far on the other side of the aisle from Mr. Moore, however, I pretty sure I'm on the same page with this one.
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Andrew
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I think that misses the point. A convention centre is not a suitable replacement in the first place. The impact of GM closing - as with any local economy almost completely reliant of one employer/manufacturer - on Flint is too large. Too many families were hostage to GM, and their livelihoods were at risk - and for what? To bolster company profits.

Did Moore's depiction of Flint cause that harm? No, I don't think it did. A contributory factor? Maybe, but only really a largely negligible factor. The real impact was down to the activities of GM. But, that's business, right?

Andrew


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