Yay, a new Bourne film has officially been greenlit. No Paul Greengrass however but instead Tony Gilroy is stepping up to the plate. Not an awful choice, he wrote the previous screenplays and directed Michael Clayton, which I liked, a lot.

But one slight problem, just a small one, nothing huge....

There will also be no Jason Bourne.

Seriously, it is a Bourne film without the Bourne. Tony Gilroy says it is set in the Bourne Universe, but will feature a totally different hero.

So congratulations Hollywood, you have found brand new twist on the sequel/remake gravy train: a sequel that is not even a sequel.

Brilliant.

Be prepared for more coming your way in theatres near you...

*George Lucas must be kicking himself, he used to be the undisputed champion at milking yet even more money out of successful franchises. Guess he is so busy turning Star Wars into 3D that he took his eye off the ball.

Don't believe the hype Murph. You can bet yer ass Matt Damon and Greengrass will have some role.

They love to bullshit. Just like my parents and their friends. And er, me.

Spielberg and the others are also at the Remastering trick. It's like Their Greatest Hits.

We used to sell remasters of guys from the forties and fifties and they sucked. Because the original producer and engineer and artist were dead. Ended up binning them as they always came back and I'd tell punters "Buyer beware"

Bourne Trilogy is excellent. Not sure about this. Gilroy's done some good work. I'll wait till it hits the big screen. If it does.

R xo

stupid.

Er, yeah Snipe.

I see you've mastered C&P.

Still, you're not producing. I'm reading the book. Early days, but so far I like what I see. Ya never know. But yer probably right.

It's the hope that kills. I must become more cynical. Being optimistic over here fails.  At the mo.

R xo

Quoted from Murphy There will also be no Jason Bourne.

Well, according to this very official-looking trailer, Bourne is definitely in it. Duh.

I doubt this will be half as good as the first Bourne films.

I'll wait to catch it when it premiers on normal tv.

Duh?  Dude, that must be a fan made trailer, shooting has not even started yet...

Quoted Text The Bourne Legacy, for openers, is simply taking the title from Robert Ludlum's book and "will not use the story," Gilroy says. "It's a completely original screenplay." Secondly, "This is not a reboot or a recast or a prequel. No one's replacing Matt Damon. There will be a whole new hero, a whole new chapter...this is a stand-alone project.

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2010/10/gilroy_corrects.php

Quoted from Murphy Duh?  Dude, that must be a fan made trailer

You think?

Quoted from sniper You think?

Hahaha, I am such a dick.

Sorry, I been using an iPad since my laptop blew up and some youtube vids do not work on iPad, yours above being one of 'em. I thought you were being serious. Just checked on Mrs Murphy's laptop.  

I imagine what Gilroy intends to do is create a new Jason Bourne type identity.
Universal is desperate for a hit, so anything goes to keep the franchise alive.
I wouldn't be surprised if this movie is a tactic to try and lure Damon back.
Either that or they believe after the Green Zone disaster, this is the best way to go.

E.D.

Here are my thoughts.

1) Jason Bourne IS in the movie. You just won't see him (Matt Damon); he'll be across the yard with his rifle scope or something like that.

2) Jason Bourne quotes The Professor to Paz at the end of the last film. The film could be Redemption of Paz.

3) As mentioned, it could be a new character who is given or chooses the cover name "Jason Bourne".

4) All The Above.

On the plus side, I'm glad Greengrass is not the director. Why?
Kiss your lens goodbye, Shaky Cam!

Bourne is back! Err...no, he's not. But his legacy is! Apparently. Fuck it, Renner's in it, I'm there.



The guys who make the trailers really, really, really need to stop using that Inception-inspired buzzing sound.

I actually thought this looked pretty good. I loved the Bourne trilogy, but to be completely honest, the worst part about the films were their director (Mr. Paul Greengrass aka Michael J Fox holding a camera in Tokyo). Renner's a solid action hero. He was absolutely dynamite in the latest Mission Impossible flick and deserves every bit of stardom.

Quoted from albinopenguin Michael J Fox holding a camera

Hahaha - damn that was cold

haha it was, but it's true. I have to take a dramamine before watching his movies

Great trailer! I was on the fence about this and still am slightly but like Will said, Renner's a solid action hero. I think this could be really good based on the trailer but I've said that many times before and been disappointed so won’t get my hopes up.

I was only thinking about the real story in Bourne Legacy by Eric Von Lustbader if they are adapting that novel. In that book, Jason Bourne is an older person and the Antagonist is (I think if I remember correctly) his own lost/kidnapped son, named Khan another assassin, who is equally lethal as Jason himself. So a good plot, but it failed to touch people like Robert Ludlum used to.

If they adapt Bourne Ultimatum in the real format, then both Jason Bourne and Carlos are old men in that as well. So, Matt Damon would need a lot of make up to look 60, just as Carlos would (Maybe Clive Owen can do that)

It would be a bomb combination. They should have talked Matt Damon into it. It would be nowhere close to what his trilogy did as business.

The only actor that might sound a bit like the younger Jason Bourne might be Jake Gyllenhall.
(I like him too, he is Bourne like)

But after Matt Damon has played Bourne very recently and three times, it is a hardball for any new Actor to beat that talented man.

I was watching Goodwill Hunting and also followed up with Informant, both flicks were on HBO and great movies. This was last week. What a wonderful opportunity for Gilroy. But Damon said, he won't work w/o Greengrass I gathered.

I saw Green Zone, not a bad flick at all, but I guess Americans are bored of war movies specially about Iraq. If it portrays some intense story about the Victims and the cries of women, children and old folks in the war torn areas, then it might be an instant hit, but the trouble is, it would portray the Americans as villains in such stories. So nobody risks writing up such Screenplays.

The reality of all this is "It starts from a Madame Madelaine Albright"

AND:

Tony Gilroy Explains How Bourne 4 Was Created Without Bourne


The fourth Bourne installment took a seeming step backward when it was announced that writer-director Tony Gilroy's (Michael Clayton) script wouldn't include the character of Jason Bourne (Matt Damon). Gilroy, who helped write all three of the previous Bourne movies, was tasked by Universal with writing Bourne 4 in June. Then, when The Bourne Supremacy and The Bourne Ultimatum director Paul Greengrass decided he wouldn't return for a fourth, the studio hired Gilroy to direct.

But why no Bourne in Bourne 4? For one, once Greengrass bowed out, Damon countered, saying he "wouldn't do [another Bourne] with anyone" other than Greengrass. This left Gilroy the opportunity to expand the Bourne mythology, though Gilroy admitted to Deadline that when he met with the estate for Bourne author Robert Ludlum back in the spring, he told them he had no ideas for a fourth Bourne.


I thought --  this is a bad move. Se the problems here:


Tony Gilroy is a great Screenwriter and a Story writer, maybe he is really the only genius here, but he won't deliver a successful 4th Bourne w/o Matt Damon and Paul Greengrass. They established a CERTAIN kind of pace and action genre elements in the three movies already made -- although all of those three were far away from the actual books by Ludlum. Another issue, in my humble opinion is "Eric Van Lustbader" He is definitely a great writer, but not in the same mould as Ludlum. I have seen the Bourne Identity (Original Teleplay, Richard Chamberlain-Jaclyn Smith, directed by Roger Young) at least 30 times, to learn about how the dialogues in movies are written, or in a teleplay either. Lustbader wrote this Bourne book titled "The Bourne Legacy" it is terrible in some parts. I couldn't read it fully, because I started to feel "This writer has gone nuts, he doesn't understand the real WIRING of Jason Bourne aka David Webb, from Ludlum's books" I think, Universal will rue this idea, because people internationally would want Damon-Greengrass combo. Let us wait and watch. This should be an interesting thing to think of the 4th Bourne movie. Jeremy Renner is a great action hero, so all good luck to him to "Try and top Matt Damon's performances in the Bourne Trilogy"

Anyway, good luck Gilroy, too!.

Ciao.