But, that's what I'm saying. It's one of those good ideas that really should stay an idea. There's almost no way (remember, this is just me) to properly do that idea.

I'm trying to think of an example to show what I mean, but I can't at the moment.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. I liked the film, even as it was and I don't see that there's anything inherently wrong with the idea that could preclude it making for a genuinely great piece of work.

The only thing I would say is that that kind of subject matter is probably better off in the hands of independent or up-coming filmmakers. If you're going to go with it, you've got to go the whole hog and get right under the skin of it. Luxuriate in the sheer horror of it.

If I came across a script like that, I'd definitely like to have a go at it.

Got some time off this summer; putting off grad school 'til the fall, wife is gonna work while I'm home with the kids, dog, rabbit and guinea pig. Living the dream. So, yeah, I'll play.

Ps. There will never be anyone better than Johnny Most.

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films AKW? The only great thing he wrote was Seven...and frankly I think the quality of the film owed one helll of a lot to David Fincher. 8MM is the second best thing he's ever done.

I did like 8mm. Lot going on in that film. Great cast doing good work. And Gandolfini doing sterling work as always.

Cage was great in that. I'm hearing many positive things about his BL performance too.

One small point: AKW wrote an interesting script that will probably never be made. The somewhat legendary Batman Vs Superman. Or is it tother way round?

Fincher speaks highly of AKW and his work on Fight Club as well as others. For that I am very grateful.

Now. Must watch my FC DVD again. Where is my telly remote?

tyleR

OK, you goofs. who's the wise-ass fucking with my postings and changing what I've written?

I don't think that's very cool at all.  Cut it out, damnit!

Quoted from rendevous One small point: AKW wrote an interesting script that will probably never be made. The somewhat legendary Batman Vs Superman. Or is it tother way round?

Yeah, he also did the X-Men script, the original draft in '94. The thing was a fucking train wreck, but it was still interesting to see his take on it.

Quoted from rendevous I did like 8mm. Lot going on in that film. Great cast doing good work. And Gandolfini doing sterling work as always. Cage was great in that. I'm hearing many positive things about his BL performance too. One small point: AKW wrote an interesting script that will probably never be made. The somewhat legendary Batman Vs Superman. Or is it tother way round? Fincher speaks highly of AKW and his work on Fight Club as well as others. For that I am very grateful. Now. Must watch my FC DVD again. Where is my telly remote? tyleR

Yeah. I think my post came across as a bit more disparaging to AKW than I intended. It just surprised me that he was held in such regard that a film would be a disappointment based on his past work.

In fairness that's as much down to my own ignorance as anything else.

I only knew the stuff that was "written by" him...he's clearly had a role in a lot of great films. The Game, Event Horizon, Fight Club...even Stir of Echoes was well above the normal level for a supernatural thriller.

Of course, it's impossible to know how much input he had into them, but they wouldn't have hired him if he wasn't of some considerable use.

It's a funny business really. From the outside in you can't really tell who's responsible for anything. Maybe you can't from the inside out either.

Yeah, Event Horizon. Back when W.S. didn't just make crap. Plus, it has Sam Neill just being awesome, you know?

And, Stir of Echoes. Man, that got lost along with Frailty, both of which came out around the same time. You have Kevin Bacon being all, "I'm not drunk." in a horrible Chicagoan accent.

I don't know. Sometimes I wonder how good movies can get lost in the shuffle when so many bigger (and typically not as well made) movies are in the fore-front. But, that's ok. I guess. =)

Event Horizon - WEAK!  Terrible acting, cheap sets...DULL!  I was so disappointed when I saw this at the theater when it was originally released.  It did quite poorly as well.  Very surprised people still talk about it now and remember it fondly.

Event Horizon is one of my favourite films of that kind. Brilliant film.

It's definitely enjoyable but I try to avoid words like "brilliant" and "perfect" because I know that no such thing exists.

However, it was a good movie and I like it, regardless of the "terrible acting" and "cheap sets" as someone so eloquently put it.

Rick, what did you think of Laurence Fishburne's performance?  I literally think they must have brought him on right before they started shooting and just let him read off a teleprompter.

What did you think of the lovely sets they created?  That ridiculous looking spinning hallway thingy?

Don't get me wrong...I remember so well how excited my friends and I were after seeing the trailers..how I sat there, trying to like it, hoping I was wrong in my initial response.  Nope, it didn't change, and after we left, we all agreed it was bad and downright laughable.

Another case of the different strokes phenomenon, huh?

Quoted from Mr. Blonde It's definitely enjoyable but I try to avoid words like "brilliant" and "perfect" because I know that no such thing exists. However, it was a good movie and I like it, regardless of the "terrible acting" and "cheap sets" as someone so eloquently put it.

There's no such thing as perfect...but there's been plenty of brilliant films as far as I'm concerned. I love films, and now that I make them myself and I realise just how hard it is to get right, I appreciate them even more.

Jeff,

What can I say? I just really "got" it. Loved the premise, loved the atmosphere, loved the build of tension and I really loved the whole sci-fi crossed with hell thing. It really blew me away when I saw it.

I try to avoid trailers and reviews so I can see everything with fresh eyes...and it all just really worked for me.

I fit brilliant in with perfect just because of how rare anything brilliant is that they're almost the same thing to me when it comes to movies.

And, Jeff, come on. I love the spinning room thing. Lol. Ok, so it didn't really look great, but it was awesome. It's one of those image that sticks with me. =)

OK guys.  that's cool.  To each his own...

The spinning room stuff sticks with me, but not in a god way at all.

And...any comments on Larry's acting in that flick?