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The Bible says that when you become a Christian, all of your sins are already forgiven by what Jesus did on the cross and rising from the dead 3 days later. So this means the sin of suicide is already forgiven, so if you really read the Bible, you'd know that if you are a Christian and you kill yourself (though I'm not sure why a Christian would do this. Makes me wonder if they were really a Christian at all) you'd go to heaven.
Umm...it was related to what you said. And it had nothing to do with sex, but with porn, which is a photo. And I was relating porn to entertainment, which is what you were talking about.
The Bible says that when you become a Christian, all of your sins are already forgiven by what Jesus did on the cross and rising from the dead 3 days later. So this means the sin of suicide is already forgiven, so if you really read the Bible, you'd know that if you are a Christian and you kill yourself (though I'm not sure why a Christian would do this. Makes me wonder if they were really a Christian at all) you'd go to heaven.
-Chris
Just like people were forgiven when Horus died for them and rose from the dead three days later - thousands of years before Jesus.
Just like Krishna was “born of a virgin,” died for everyone’s trespasses and was raised from the dead.
Just like with Mithraism - before Christianity.
Just like Buddha - who exists as a “trinity” and has worshippers awaiting a “second coming” in the form of Maitreya, who will rule over the earth and, of course, everything will be wonderful and blissful.
The story of the God-man, born through miraculous means, who died for mankind and was resurrected (like the phoenix) is far older than Jesus.
In fact, if you study Jesus’ teachings, they were actually much more in line with Roman pagan beliefs than they were Jewish.
Christianity is nothing more than a “spiritual coup” by the Romans to gain and sustain control over Jews. The pagan stories that form the basis for the New Testament were around long before, just adapted to a form more acceptable to Jews. In fact, at one time in Rome, there was a statue of Jesus erected by the Emperor Constantine that, though called Jesus, was actually a statue of a Sun (Son) God to whom Constantine was a devout worshipper (despite stories, Constantine never actually converted to Christianity until on his death bed).
Constantine was in fact himself declared a god during his lifetime as was customary for Emperors in Roman culture. But, with the diverse population, including a growing Christian sect, Constantine united his empire by declaring Christianity the state religion. Though called Christianity, it was a mishmash of all the various prominent religions of the time and formed into one unified “universal” (or Catholic) Church.
This is why you have a pine tree at Christmas (which is actually part of a pagan ritual). This is also why you have Easter (Ester was a pagan goddess and Easter was originally a celebration of the renewal of life with the egg being a prominent symbol). Most of Christianity is not Christian at all. In fact, more of your worship is grounded in paganism than it is in Jewish tradition.
The point is that you’ve already strayed from the biblical god just by even listening to Jesus’ pagan teachings. Those teachings are punishable by death according to Jewish law.
Debating with someone like you, Rapture, however, is of course a waste of time. Religious brainwashing is of course very potent. Children are indoctrinated from the beginning of life and the lies are reinforced by the provided environment and society at large. There’s very little that can be done for you Rapture. People who have learned the truth about religion can only put our faith in the possibility that somewhere deep inside of you, there is enough of truth allowed to shine through that you will find your own way. Deprogramming church and societal lies and reversing the damage caused by them is a lifelong challenge.
Anyway, with regards to The DaVinci Code: Da Vinci was a man who loved to mess with the heads of religious people so whether any code he left behind could be taken serious is suspect. And Dan Brown did, for those who don’t know, basically steal the idea from the controversial book Holy Blood Holy Grail.
Still, these kinds of films are very important if for no other reason than to start or keep a dialogue - because though it may provoke controversy, it also provokes thought and discussion. And that, in my opinion, is invaluable.
The Bible says that when you become a Christian, all of your sins are already forgiven by what Jesus did on the cross and rising from the dead 3 days later. So this means the sin of suicide is already forgiven, so if you really read the Bible, you'd know that if you are a Christian and you kill yourself (though I'm not sure why a Christian would do this. Makes me wonder if they were really a Christian at all) you'd go to heaven.
-Chris
If this is the case, why do Catholics have to go to confession? Why is there last rites?
From wikipedia:
Mortal sin. According to the beliefs of Catholicism, a mortal sin is a sin that, unless confessed and absolved, condemns a person's soul to Hell after death.
Suicide would be one of these sins. I don't believe that someone would go to Hell for oggling women but, as George Carlin would say, "There's still guys in Hell doing time on a meat rap!"
Just like people were forgiven when Horus died for them and rose from the dead three days later - thousands of years before Jesus.
Just like Krishna was “born of a virgin,” died for everyone’s trespasses and was raised from the dead.
Just like with Mithraism - before Christianity.
Just like Buddha - who exists as a “trinity” and has worshippers awaiting a “second coming” in the form of Maitreya, who will rule over the earth and, of course, everything will be wonderful and blissful.
The story of the God-man, born through miraculous means, who died for mankind and was resurrected (like the phoenix) is far older than Jesus.
In fact, if you study Jesus’ teachings, they were actually much more in line with Roman pagan beliefs than they were Jewish.
Christianity is nothing more than a “spiritual coup” by the Romans to gain and sustain control over Jews. The pagan stories that form the basis for the New Testament were around long before, just adapted to a form more acceptable to Jews. In fact, at one time in Rome, there was a statue of Jesus erected by the Emperor Constantine that, though called Jesus, was actually a statue of a Sun (Son) God to whom Constantine was a devout worshipper (despite stories, Constantine never actually converted to Christianity until on his death bed).
Constantine was in fact himself declared a god during his lifetime as was customary for Emperors in Roman culture. But, with the diverse population, including a growing Christian sect, Constantine united his empire by declaring Christianity the state religion. Though called Christianity, it was a mishmash of all the various prominent religions of the time and formed into one unified “universal” (or Catholic) Church.
This is why you have a pine tree at Christmas (which is actually part of a pagan ritual). This is also why you have Easter (Ester was a pagan goddess and Easter was originally a celebration of the renewal of life with the egg being a prominent symbol). Most of Christianity is not Christian at all. In fact, more of your worship is grounded in paganism than it is in Jewish tradition.
The point is that you’ve already strayed from the biblical god just by even listening to Jesus’ pagan teachings. Those teachings are punishable by death according to Jewish law.
Debating with someone like you, Rapture, however, is of course a waste of time. Religious brainwashing is of course very potent. Children are indoctrinated from the beginning of life and the lies are reinforced by the provided environment and society at large. There’s very little that can be done for you Rapture. People who have learned the truth about religion can only put our faith in the possibility that somewhere deep inside of you, there is enough of truth allowed to shine through that you will find your own way. Deprogramming church and societal lies and reversing the damage caused by them is a lifelong challenge.
Anyway, with regards to The DaVinci Code: Da Vinci was a man who loved to mess with the heads of religious people so whether any code he left behind could be taken serious is suspect. And Dan Brown did, for those who don’t know, basically steal the idea from the controversial book Holy Blood Holy Grail.
Still, these kinds of films are very important if for no other reason than to start or keep a dialogue - because though it may provoke controversy, it also provokes thought and discussion. And that, in my opinion, is invaluable.
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Just like people were forgiven when Horus died for them and rose from the dead three days later - thousands of years before Jesus.
Just like Krishna was “born of a virgin,” died for everyone’s trespasses and was raised from the dead.
Just like with Mithraism - before Christianity.
Just like Buddha - who exists as a “trinity” and has worshippers awaiting a “second coming” in the form of Maitreya, who will rule over the earth and, of course, everything will be wonderful and blissful.
The story of the God-man, born through miraculous means, who died for mankind and was resurrected (like the phoenix) is far older than Jesus.
Exatly! Except for Mithraism. That guy always made me nervous.
Just like people were forgiven when Horus died for them and rose from the dead three days later - thousands of years before Jesus.
Just like Krishna was “born of a virgin,” died for everyone’s trespasses and was raised from the dead.
Just like with Mithraism - before Christianity.
Just like Buddha - who exists as a “trinity” and has worshippers awaiting a “second coming” in the form of Maitreya, who will rule over the earth and, of course, everything will be wonderful and blissful.
The story of the God-man, born through miraculous means, who died for mankind and was resurrected (like the phoenix) is far older than Jesus.
In fact, if you study Jesus’ teachings, they were actually much more in line with Roman pagan beliefs than they were Jewish.
Christianity is nothing more than a “spiritual coup” by the Romans to gain and sustain control over Jews. The pagan stories that form the basis for the New Testament were around long before, just adapted to a form more acceptable to Jews. In fact, at one time in Rome, there was a statue of Jesus erected by the Emperor Constantine that, though called Jesus, was actually a statue of a Sun (Son) God to whom Constantine was a devout worshipper (despite stories, Constantine never actually converted to Christianity until on his death bed).
Constantine was in fact himself declared a god during his lifetime as was customary for Emperors in Roman culture. But, with the diverse population, including a growing Christian sect, Constantine united his empire by declaring Christianity the state religion. Though called Christianity, it was a mishmash of all the various prominent religions of the time and formed into one unified “universal” (or Catholic) Church.
This is why you have a pine tree at Christmas (which is actually part of a pagan ritual). This is also why you have Easter (Ester was a pagan goddess and Easter was originally a celebration of the renewal of life with the egg being a prominent symbol). Most of Christianity is not Christian at all. In fact, more of your worship is grounded in paganism than it is in Jewish tradition.
The point is that you’ve already strayed from the biblical god just by even listening to Jesus’ pagan teachings. Those teachings are punishable by death according to Jewish law.
Debating with someone like you, Rapture, however, is of course a waste of time. Religious brainwashing is of course very potent. Children are indoctrinated from the beginning of life and the lies are reinforced by the provided environment and society at large. There’s very little that can be done for you Rapture. People who have learned the truth about religion can only put our faith in the possibility that somewhere deep inside of you, there is enough of truth allowed to shine through that you will find your own way. Deprogramming church and societal lies and reversing the damage caused by them is a lifelong challenge.
Anyway, with regards to The DaVinci Code: Da Vinci was a man who loved to mess with the heads of religious people so whether any code he left behind could be taken serious is suspect. And Dan Brown did, for those who don’t know, basically steal the idea from the controversial book Holy Blood Holy Grail.
Still, these kinds of films are very important if for no other reason than to start or keep a dialogue - because though it may provoke controversy, it also provokes thought and discussion. And that, in my opinion, is invaluable.
Thank you, Breane!
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