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oJOHNNYoNUTSo
Posted: February 16th, 2014, 9:13pm Report to Moderator
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I had to postpone House of Cards to catch up on a gnarly new show: True Detective!  Has anyone else seen this?  It's got my mind in a square knot right now.  TV ain't what it used to be haha!
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Just finished Episode 3. Honestly I want to like it a lot more than I do.

I LOVE the character of Rust Cohle. Between the writing, the philosophy, and McConaughey's performance, he is singlehandedly keeping me watching. I swear, McConaughey has proved himself the ultimate dark horse as far as I'm concerned. One of the absolute last actors I thought would ever make a turnaround like he has and I NEVER would have expected him to play a character like this.

That said, I'm not nearly as interested in the main plot. It's definitely not your typical police procedural case but they definitely haven't pulled out as many stops as I would expect. I'm also not a big police procedural fan and the show definitely seems to be geared towards fans.

Woody Harrelson doesn't do a bad job but I can't help but feel he's a little stiff, especially compared to McConaughey, not to mention his character is clearly supposed to be the "normal one." I mean, he's well developed and not exactly the model family man, which I appreciate, but he's definitely a more familiar, less interesting character.

That said, the final image of Episode 3 left off very promising and I get the sense that whatever's around the corner won't be pretty. So I'll keep watching for now.

EDIT: House of Cards, Season 2 is insane! Highly recommend it!



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Yeah, just finished the most recent episode.  It gets very interesting to say the least... McConaughy is killing this role in every way imaginable.  Can't wait till the next.

Also can't wait to watch The Cards, back to back baby!
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Just finished Episode 5.

Yeah... it payed off.

Everyone's talking about the long take at the end of 4. It's not hard to see why. Not only is it exceptional technical speaking, McConaughey's performance is just... no words. Simply put, he needs to take on more roles where he's the scariest motherfucker in the room.

Hart's character has taken on some interesting turns as well. I'm liking him a lot better now.

That said, I am still much more interested in Cohle than I am the identity of this Yellow King. Not sure if that's good or bad.


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I thought the pilot was surprisingly stale and meh, not sure what I expected having read the script prior. Thought I'd go along with the hype and keep watching and wow, episode 4 really boosted into some great territory. A terrific production and kudos to the whole cast, crew and writer. There's a treatment floating around the web full of spoilers and I'm struggling not to ruin it for myself! Will be exciting to watch the later episodes.

I'm also surprisingly excited by the later seasons as well, will be nice to see how they can build up the same hype with a new slate.

Not sure about the latest episode though, felt the transition through the years felt forced, as well as Hart's backstory.
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Just IMDb'd it. It looks pretty good!

I'm in Britain without Sky, is it available anywhere else?
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The first 3 episodes were pretty average in my opinion. I hate this new trend with family problems in every show.

But the last 2 episodes have been awesome. Can't wait till next week. I can't say that about any recent shows.
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Seriously. Show's over. No thoughts?

Loved it. Watched it twice. Probably one of the best TV seasons I've ever seen. Rustin Cohle is officially one of my top ten favorite characters AND performances of all time.

A lot to be said about the finale. Moments of brilliance, namely the Carcosa chase. But after some time to digest... yeah. A little disappointing. Way too streamlined and with the exception of a few moments, definitely out of sync with the rest of the series.

Still, I enjoyed it and it didn't take away from the rest of the series by any means. Definitely well above the average fare. Stoked for Season 2.


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I thought this was a bad show.

I liked two episodes of it, but the show as a whole, I can't rate highly at all. In fact I thought it was horrible, after it ended.

Anticlimactic is the word to use. It appeared as the show was building to some sort of conspiracy, some kind of cult, a bigger villain then it turned out to be. There were hints at something better then it turned out to be.
When I saw the last episode, I was like: "that's it? that's what we set up with 7 episodes before?". You can't build something for 7 episodes and the have a finale like that. At least pace the show accordingly to what you're building towards.

I mean they used up so much time for all that family drama BS and then you tie up the loose ends of the major point of the show in one episode. It's just so anticlimactic. Horrible.

What the hell is with this current trend about family problems in shows? Why do I have to watch marriages going down hill, fathers not paying enough attention to their kids, the kids acting out and so on. I'm watching a crime/thriller show. Family drama, takes up like 60% of most serious shows no mater what the subject.

I'm not watching a show like True Detective to see if one cop can stay faithful to his wife. I mean, cool, add a few scenes like that, but you don't have to make 50% of the show about what goes on in the guy's family life. Breaking Bad, Homeland... all do the same stuff.

Actors did a fine job. The characters had potential. I just think this was one missed opportunity.

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I've gotta make a case for this.

SPOILERS

Not too many shows can pull of what True Detective achieved in a finale. In fact, I can only think of one TV show, Terriers, that pulled off a reveal of the villain at the end that really nailed it. But True Detective goes straight up Apocalypse Now. So Errol Childress ain't no Colonel Kurtz, but a after watching the season as whole, there is no doubt it was inspired. Every aspect of Errol's character (all 20 minutes!) was DESERVED. How chilling was it!? Funny, intense, disturbing, and epic.

Then we get a slap of reality at the end. It's a great way to clear a path for the theme, and answers the question, "who deserves to wear a crown of judgement?" These are some of the best characters TV has to offer, and it's rare to see abstractions solved with abstractions. It's a classic, everything about it.
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I personally thought the villain reveal was done poorly. That 'no', and him running off was hilariously stupid and contrived. Like Demento, I expected some kind of twist, or a play on a character that suggested the killer wouldn't be... Such a small/random character. The family drama was again, wrapped up really poorly and the last ten minutes were probably some of the slowest and boring TV I've seen in a while, and really, they didn't make much sense either. Just not the note the show should've ended on.

Not a bad season overall, but comparing it to let's say Dexter's first or fourth season, you can see a clear difference between how the writers handled character arcs and mysteries. I just thought this was lacking with some episodes boosting between great and mediocre. Although I'll have nightmares over that 20 minute exposition scene at Rust's garage...
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Loved the show. I want to go back and watch it again.
Gave me that same feeling I had after watching Se7en for the firs time.
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Amazing show, stellar cast, disappointing ending. Watched the entire season in a day, and oddly enough, I miss it. Rust really resonated with me. Too bad the big baddie sucked ass. I have a difficult time believing he was ever that deep/artistic.


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Quoted from albinopenguin
I have a difficult time believing he was ever that deep/artistic.


Errol captured Rust's imagination for twenty years.

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Yeah, I get that. I just don't buy that an incestual, bumbling idiot could come up with something so thought provoking. Now I'll accept Reggie Ledoux, but as stated in the second to last episode, the killer is still on the loose.

Overall, the reveal was simply disappointing. However, I'm loving all the screen caps and clues people are finding that stated that he was their killer.


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