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guyjackson |
Posted: January 21st, 2006, 5:04pm |
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I have a question regarding the title page of a screenplay. At the bottom right and left hand corners of the page I believe you are to insert your contact information and your copyright information respectively.
My question is how do you place both sets of information on the same lines in a word document? Do you have to have screenplay software to accomplish this? If not please enlighten me.
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George Willson |
Posted: January 21st, 2006, 6:15pm |
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Of The Ancients Doctor who? Yes, quite right.
LocationBroken Arrow Posts3591 Posts Per Day 0.51 |
You can right justify all of this information. Alternatively, you can right justify your copyright info one line above your left-justified contact info. |
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guyjackson |
Posted: January 21st, 2006, 6:32pm |
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Thanks George. I appreciate it. |
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Lon |
Posted: February 14th, 2006, 4:54pm |
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Not to rock the boat, but I think it's frowned upon to include your Writer's Guild or Library of Congress registration number unless specifically asked to. One, much like adding the number 1 to page one, it somewhat insults the reader's intelligence - you wouldnt' be sending the script to a studio/producer/agent unless it was copyrighted before hand so including the reg. number is redundant. Two, the likelihood of your script being ripped off by a studio/producer/exec is so minute that including your reg. number just isn't really necessary. Why would a studio/producer/agent steal your script, produce the movie, run an ad campaign, distribute it, and make millions -- then have to turn around and give it all to you when you take them to court when it's easier and cheaper to just buy or option your script instead? Yes, the copyright and reg. number exist for a reason, but so long as you have one, you won't need it unless asked. |
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FilmMaker06 |
Posted: February 14th, 2006, 4:59pm |
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Every product I've ever seen has it's copyright information and I'm not offended...lol. Why should a script be any different? Just a thought, not trying to start anything. |
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Martin |
Posted: February 14th, 2006, 5:13pm |
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Lon, from my experience producers like to know that what they're reading is registered. It's to do with protecting themselves, not the writer. Most companies won't read anything that isn't registered. I can't see how putting a WGA number on your script will put anyone off. |
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Lon |
Posted: February 14th, 2006, 9:06pm |
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Oh, I totally understand why some studios/producers/etc. would ask for or require it, but I've never attached the number to anything I've submitted and was never called on it. Then again I've yet to sell anything so maybe that has something to do with it. |
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I_Am_Remote |
Posted: May 25th, 2006, 3:11am |
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Hi, quick question.
I'm planning to submit a script to the unproduced section of this site (first time poster). What information (recommended) should be on the title page? Should a copyright be claimed? Any info would be helpful.
Thanks.
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dogglebe |
Posted: May 25th, 2006, 5:36am |
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Most scripts posted here do not have title pages.
If you want to have one, include the title, the copyright notice, your name and your e-mail address.
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George Willson |
Posted: May 28th, 2006, 4:53pm |
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Of The Ancients Doctor who? Yes, quite right.
LocationBroken Arrow Posts3591 Posts Per Day 0.51 |
Technically, all intellectual property is copyrighted upon complation. It is the registration of that copyright with the Library of Congress that gives you protection should a dispute arise. So you can put a copyright notice on there stating when you completed it, but until it is registered, it is not necessarily protected.
You cannot, however, claim WGA registration unless you have a registration number and that is actually done. |
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Lon |
Posted: June 28th, 2006, 6:09am |
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...plus a bonus WGA question. I've been asking around but am getting little help.
Title page question:
I sold a script. It was purchased outright. I was paid to do a rewrite. Rewrite is now finished and I'm ready to send it to the producer. Question: What do I put on the title page?
I use Final Draft 7; it's title page format includes spaces for "revisions by," "date of revision,", etc. What I have for my rewrite's title page right now looks something like this:
Title by My Name
2nd Draft Revisions by My Name 6/27/06
Would I still need to include my contact info, considering they already have it? Should I forego my contact info and just put "property of production company's name?"
WGA question:
As stated, I sold a script. I'm being paid for the first rewrite. I just finished said rewrite which, after including the changes requested by the producer, differs drastically from the original script. Question: should I register this draft with the Writer's Guild, despite the original having already been purchased and its rights no longer belonging to me? Or should I just send it to the production company and let them worry about it?
I find myself right now in a scenario I wasn't expecting to be in any time soon -- the "what do I do after I've sold?" scenario. In many ways it's like training in a dojo for years and years and suddenly finding yourself in a street fight.
Basically, what I'm saying is HELP, and thanks ahead of time for it.
- Lon |
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dogglebe |
Posted: June 28th, 2006, 6:49am |
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You can put 'date of revision' on it just incase a copy is put with an older (or later) version of the script. They'll know what is what.
If you sold the rights to the script, there's no reason to reregister it with WGA.
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Lon |
Posted: June 28th, 2006, 7:32am |
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Works for me! Thanks, Phil. |
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shelbyoops |
Posted: June 3rd, 2007, 1:44pm |
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Hey, I havent posted in a while, but I am starting a new script. It is semi-inspired by the song Hotel Calfornia by The Eagles.
My question is, I know titles arent usually copyrighted but this song is/was really popular so would I get sued for naming the script Hotel California?
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dogglebe |
Posted: June 3rd, 2007, 2:20pm |
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No, but you could get in trouble if your story is too much like the song.
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shelbyoops |
Posted: June 3rd, 2007, 2:36pm |
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Phil,
The song and the story are kind of similar if I am correct about the song.
The song to me is a metaphor for a drug addiction.
My film is a psychological horror about a writer who after a failed suicide attempt and coming off a drug addiction, decides to drive across california to get to her home town in oregon. Stopping for the night at a seemingly nice hotel, her and her husband check into their room. As the night goes on, the writer realizes the hotel is haunted and it exploits her own personal demons.
Will that get me sued? |
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dogglebe |
Posted: June 3rd, 2007, 2:50pm |
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It's possible if it's produced. Those interested in producing it may want to change the name to avoid any legal complications.
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Zack |
Posted: June 3rd, 2007, 3:04pm |
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I know this is a little of topic, but I always have trouble coming up with titles. Is there some kind of trick to come up with a good title? |
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dogglebe |
Posted: June 3rd, 2007, 3:07pm |
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Breanne Mattson |
Posted: June 3rd, 2007, 3:31pm |
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The closest thing to a trick I know of is to NOT try and be clever - but just let the title come on its own. Sometimes a title hits you and a story derives from it. Sometimes, while conceiving a story, a title jumps out at you. In my opinion, it’s best not to force it.
As with the story in this thread, your story and title together are definitely too similar to the Eagles’ song. It’s very obvious where you got the ideas. My suggestion is for you to develop your characters and as you get into the actual story, a title may present itself - and it may be even better suited for your story than Hotel California.
Breanne
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dogglebe |
Posted: June 3rd, 2007, 3:36pm |
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The closest thing to a trick I know of is to NOT try and be clever - but just let the title come on its own. Sometimes a title hits you and a story derives from it. Sometimes, while conceiving a story, a title jumps out at you. In my opinion, it’s best not to force it. |
Don't try coming up with a pun for your title. Those never work. I remember reading somewhere that someone wrote a script about a person who lost both arms in an accident and how got on with his life afterwards. He tried selling it under the title, "Look, Ma, No Hands." And the whole internet groans in disbelief. Phil |
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shelbyoops |
Posted: June 3rd, 2007, 4:13pm |
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Quoted from dogglebe I remember reading somewhere that someone wrote a script about a person who lost both arms in an accident and how got on with his life afterwards. He tried selling it under the title, "Look, Ma, No Hands."
And the whole internet groans in disbelief.
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LMAO! Wow... Thanks everyone for all your help. I am also reading scripts again so if you need me to read something just send me a PM -Shelby |
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George Willson |
Posted: June 4th, 2007, 10:34pm |
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Of The Ancients Doctor who? Yes, quite right.
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I can see both sides of this debate in that it is true that the title cannot be copyrighted, and *technically* you aren't using the *exact* storyline, so a lawsuit is not likely. But...it is possible. It is also possible that the use of the storyline alone and naming the hotel "Hotel California" could have the same result even if the title is changed.
Here's another consideration: as this debate did arise, it just might come up in the offices of whatever producer is interested. Obviously the use of the title is going to imply that the script was inspired by the song, and that's enough to have the Eagles credited with pay just to be safe.
You also want to consider how everyone will react to the film whether it's legal or not. You'll have every Eagles fan running to see it because they believe it is based on the song because of the title. Then, you are going to have every Eagles fan *hate* you because it isn't about the song and doesn't star the Eagles. It is going to be relentlessly compared to the song, and that comparison will tarnish the movie before it ever has a chance to stand on its own. If I were doing it and liked the story, I would change the title to avoid this last complication. Screw the legal battle...this last bit is far more damning. |
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shelbyoops |
Posted: June 4th, 2007, 10:43pm |
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George,
Wow. I never thought about that. I have decided to change the title. I thinking about just calling it "Hotel". If I did that, no one would ever even make the connection to the song unless I pointed it out.
-Shelby |
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Zack |
Posted: June 4th, 2007, 11:00pm |
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Just a suggestion, but aybe you could have the song playing on the radio during a key scene. But you probrably already thought about that. |
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Shelton |
Posted: June 4th, 2007, 11:02pm |
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Just a suggestion, but aybe you could have the song playing on the radio during a key scene. But you probrably already thought about that. |
Using copyrighted music is a no-no...probably worse than writing a script based on the song. I've had to look into this myself to confirm that I need to do a rewrite. |
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shelbyoops |
Posted: June 4th, 2007, 11:06pm |
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Just a suggestion, but aybe you could have the song playing on the radio during a key scene. But you probrably already thought about that. |
I have thought about this and I did do it, but after what Mike said, I'll change it. Thanks Mike. |
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George Willson |
Posted: June 5th, 2007, 12:39am |
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Of The Ancients Doctor who? Yes, quite right.
LocationBroken Arrow Posts3591 Posts Per Day 0.51 |
Quoted from shelbyoops George,
Wow. I never thought about that. I have decided to change the title. I thinking about just calling it "Hotel". If I did that, no one would ever even make the connection to the song unless I pointed it out.
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While it isn't the screenwriters job to market the movie, per se, it is our responsibility to make it marketable and understand some of the pitfalls it might run into somewhere down the road because of its elements. For this reason, it is not only acceptable to compare your script to others, but reasonably think about how the biggest jerk you know would think about it. Imagine yourself as the biggest ass of a critic and look at your movie and make the worst presumptions...are they reasonable presumptions? Stuff to consider. |
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banjo |
Posted: July 6th, 2007, 1:25pm |
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This thread has been idle a while, but it's right up the alley of what I'm working on and I need to try to stoke it a bit. I have the basic question that began this topic, though I found that the questions that were answered for Shelby didn't really suit my needs in the long run.
I too want to write a movie based on a popular song. Same story, same names, same locations (as the song), etc. The whole point is to not altar the story or details in order to avoid being sued.
Example; If I wanted to write "the Ballad of Hollis Brown" based on the original Bob Dylan song. The movie would be about 'Hollis Brown' and the desperate North Dakota winter, strife with hunger that causes him to ultimately kill his whole family.
Now I am obviously working with the song as my inspiration and not much else. The names are the same, the story is the same, the size of his family, etc. Frankly put, altering the storyline and title to avoid trouble would negate the whole idea.
I can't believe there's no way .
Also, say my script was done. Am I even going to be able to copyright it before I know where I stand with the title and story? Shall I prepare for many obnoxious negotiations?
That's about it. I hope I was clear enough to get some help. This is really holding me back.
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