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Posted: May 18th, 2006, 8:28am Report to Moderator
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Hey,

I have a few questions which I need answered for something I'm doing. These questions are a bit morbid and... well, grusome. But, if you know the answers, please post! I need them for an effects competition.

1. When you get your nose sliced from bottom to top - are you really left with two holes? If not, what?

2. If someone pulls your hair really, really, really hard, what will happen?

3. Would you die if your forehead got sliced clean off?

4. How much blood and vitreous humour will leak when someone gets stabbed in the eye with a knife?

5. What would happen (can it happen?) if someone gets a knife and starts peeling the skin off your flesh?

These are questions I'm asking for a project I'm doing with a friend for a effects competition.

? Any answers ?

Curse. =]



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These are questions I'm asking for a project I'm doing with a friend for a effects competition.


A project....right.

1.  Are you referring to the nose being cut off.  The nose, as we know it, is cartlidge, skin and blood.  It forms the two nostrils.  The skull, itself, as one 'nose hole.'

2.  The hair either breaks, or you rip a piece of scalp off.

3.  Your forehead?  Are you referring to just the skin or the skin and bone?  Either way, you'd probably bleed to death.

4.  Only a few ounces.

5.  Blood.  Pain.  Shock.  The skin would almost shrivel up as it is elastic but would have nothing to pull it back.


Ahhhh.  Reminds me of my days in the agency.....



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Hey,

Thanks alot Phil. It's helped

Curse =]


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2.  the hair would just pull out of it's roots.

3.  depends on what brain tissue was effecting, people survive gun shots to the head often.  Often suicide victims will blow their face off because they don't point the gun into the brainstem, they "survive" but their face + forehead+ front 10% skull gone.

4.  it's a tablespoon in cows

5.  pencil shavings, curls around like when you peel a potato.


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2.  the hair would just pull out of it's roots.


Actually, if you grabbed enough of it, the skin would rip off.


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Quoted from Curse
1. When you get your nose sliced from bottom to top - are you really left with two holes?


Here ya' go, Curse.  Check out this guy...



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Yay! I'm learning...


Whoa just kidding you guys...

It sounds like you're doing something sort of like a Final Destination project, but like with an actual killer and not just death himself...or herself...or itself...whatever...

But this sounds like an interesting project...

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"I have a few questions which I need answered for something I'm doing."

What are you doing, Curse?!! You need first good tools to do a good job...Well I'm not the right perosn to ask aboput this matter, but here there is lot of guy very experienced in this type of business....Just kidding!

Bert!!! Oh my god!

Good research, Curse!
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Hehehehe.

Thanks everyone. Bert, thanks for that picture - it was a little creepy, but it helped


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Well, when I stabbed myself in the eye with a screwdriver several years ago, it made a mess of my shirt and face, but there wasn't enough to get me all wet or anything. I'd say Phil's estimate of a few ounces sounds right. Basically, consider the size of the eyeball and it will be about that much fluid since the blood vessels in the eye are very, very small.


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I wonder what the story is behind that George.


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It is a little bit of a story. The short version goes like this:

On June 15, 1998, one week after proposing to my now wife, I was working in a Fireplace installation company on a rooftop placing a sheet metal cover over the pipe that ran from the fireplace sitting two stories below me. While trying to pop the cover around some screen wire used for the stucco exterior, the screwdriver popped loose and slammed into me right eyeball. I was rushed to urgent care who immediately referred me to an eye specialist. I had surgery that evening to sew up the damaged cornea and had a cornea transplant two weeks later. The screwdriver destroyed the cornea, iris, and lens. Currently there is a whiteish "scab" behind the cornea meaning that the experience blinded my right eye completely. So I see in monocular vision which is only occasionally annoying. It was three months before I was not day-blinded to the extent that I could drive. It was six months before I could return to work, but I never got on a roof again. Yes, 100% covered by worker's comp.

My mother was bummed that I called my fiancee first.


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Ugh!  Nasty.  Ugh, now my eye like hurts, as I replay that incident in my head.  ugh.  God George, why did you have to pop your eye with a screwdriver, you got me all grossed out.  next time be more careful so i don't get all grossed out and insensitive.


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1.  Has already been explained pretty well -- mostly cartillage until you get to the skull itself, which is a divided passage.

2.  Depends on how many hairs.  Hair has a stronger tensile strength the more you have hold of.  A few hairs will pluck right out; a handful and you'll likely take a chunk of scalp with it.

3.  I doubt it.  Nothing of major importance is lost; the brain would still be intact inside the skull.  Worst case scenario, you bleed to death of die of shock.

4.  When I was in Saudi for the Gulf War a platoon-mate sustained an eye injury when angry locals attempted to pelt us with bricks.  Most of the blood was from his lacerated eye-lid and temple; the eyeball itself bled very little.  There was a a leakage of an off-yellow, jello-like substance from the eyeball itself, though.  On a side note, the injury was repaired and he retained his vision in that eye, though much more limited.

5.  It'll really, really hurt.  Incidentally you can't peel skin off your flesh -- they're the same thing.   Just keep in mind flesh isn't just a loose covering; it is still attached to the underlying muscle by membrane and veins, if I remember biology class right.  So, you'd have a very bloody and somewhat slimey mess.

Good luck with your competition and if all else fails, just slap on a bunch of latex and fake blood.  It's not every day you see someone with a ruptured eyeball, no nose, no skin, no forehead and chunks of missing skin -- so it's not like a lot of people would actually know the difference.  I hope!
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