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darthbrion
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I had a question about using both narration and images in the opening of a script.  For example, while the narration is going on how do I incorporate the scenes that's being described?  Do I do a line of narration and then do the INT/EXT?

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Write what you want as you would any other scene, but the person talking would have a VO tag next to their name to identify that they're not actually in the scene.


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cool, thanks for the help!  
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The scene is this:

EXT   PAWN SHOP - DAY

I have character 'A' waiting outside on the sidewalk.  His friend, character 'B', is inside bartering with the owner over a guitar she's trying to pawn.   She is visible to us (remember - this is all taking place from character 'A's perspective) and we are able to hear her speaking.  Her back is to us though so we can't actually see her lips moving.

My question is this, since it's obviously her that's speaking, do I need to use a V.O for her lines of dialogue?  It's a quick scene but it's important that I maintain perspective outside the shop.


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dogglebe
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If she's in the 'picture' then the V.O. is not needed.  If the focus, visually, is on character A and B is still talking, then it is V.O.


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mgj
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Thanks Phil.  The focus is on A, though I guess technically they'd both be in picture. It seems to feel right having the V.O.  so I'll go with it.  

The scene is intended to establish character A's reaction to watching his friend pawn off her most treasured earthly pocession for a few measly bucks.  That's why I want to keep it outside of the shop and not be in there with her.


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bert
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You could try something like:


As B watches from outside, A is barely audible through the window.

               A
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     But his daddy was a Gibson!
     His mama was a Fender!


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mgj
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Yeah, I like it Bert.  Probably a little more clear-cut than how I currently have it.

This is what I have BTW:

A waits out front.  He peers inside , sees B barter with the owner over her guitar.

            B (V.O.)
  Here it is.  Ain't she
  something?


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tweak
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I guess you could use a O.S. for these scenes.
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mgj
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Good point Tweak.  I suppose this is one of those things where it would depend on how the director decided to compose the shot.  In my mind anyway, I envision seeing both characters on screen.  

The muffled idea kind of leaves this open to interpretation so it might work best.  I'll go write it in now.


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I think the easiest to understand on the page would be a mixture of yours and Bert's idea.

A waits outside the window.  He presses his face up to the glass and watches as B barters with the OWNER over her guitar.
               B
          (muffled)
Here it is.  Ain't she something.


Please, read Elvis The Goat or Cold Turkey.  Thanks in advance and I'll make sure to review your script in exchange.
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               A
          (muffled)
     But his daddy was a Gibson!
     His mama was a Fender!


I thought Daddy was a rodeo.


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tweak
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Another idea is that this can be done in adr.
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Quoted from tweak
Another idea is that this can be done in adr.


I'm not familiar with adr.  Is that an abreviation?


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I'm not familiar with adr.  Is that an abreviation?


adr is just dubbing.  A lot of programs use dubbing when their location impacts performances.  The actors go into a studio and say their lines.  These are then sync'd with the video, so write for what you are going for in the script, and let the directors figure out how to do it.  They might just change it anyway and do something you didn't think about.

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