I understand what is being said regarding the fact that most stadiums are open air - but I would maintain that you are entering - going inside - a structure, so should be INT.

(If you have two characters in a house that is being built and which has no roof, would you say they were EXT?)

I do think this probably boils down, in the end, to personal preference - examples of scripts given here have used both!

I agree.

To me EXT. STADIUM instantly make you think you are standing outside the stadium.

INT. STADIUM that you are stood inside the stadium.

INT. STADIUM. STANDS
INT. STADIUM. TOILETS.

Simple as that really.

If I was moving from the stand to the field of play, I'd use something like

INT. STADIUM. ON THE FIELD.  Or whatever.

You're a funny one, Rob...that you are!  Good pooint, but of course, I have an answer.

Let's go back to the football stadium for a minute.

Many football stadiums have the ability to be open or closed, depending on weather.  Even when they're open, many still are closed in for the most part.  So, if you argue that you've got an EXT shot here because it's open and the sun is shining in, what happens when/if the roof closes?  Do you then have an INT shot?  Think how confusing a read that would be.  Or if you had a character walk underneath the get a hot dog or 14 beers?

A graveyard, like a park isn't an actual structure...it's laways going to be an EXt shot, cause it's outside...outside all the way.

As George puts it, it's going to depend on who you ask and then what their logic is.

Quoted from Dreamscale You're a funny one, Rob...that you are!  Good pooint, but of course, I have an answer.

I knew you'd like that one, bro.

Quoted from Dreamscale Many football stadiums have the ability to be open or closed, depending on weather.  Even when they're open, many still are closed in for the most part.  So, if you argue that you've got an EXT shot here because it's open and the sun is shining in, what happens when/if the roof closes?  Do you then have an INT shot?  Think how confusing a read that would be.  Or if you had a character walk underneath the get a hot dog or 14 beers?

For an open or no roof stadium I would definitely use EXT. If it's a closed roof stadium then I would use INT. To me, it all depends whether or not the characters are exposed to the elements.

Quoted from Dreamscale A graveyard, like a park isn't an actual structure...it's laways going to be an EXt shot, cause it's outside...outside all the way.

But so are many stadiums - take Yankee Stadium for example:



I know stadiums don't all look the same and some seem more closed than others but, in general, I would always put open roof stadiums as EXT.

I would say that a graveyard is not a structure or building - though they may have a church within them, the most they'd have built wise is gates and a wall. You remain outside at all times.

A stadium - any stadium - is an actual structure - a building (with or without a roof) that is designed by an architect and built of concrete and metal.

The simple answer is - never write a script set in a stadium!

Quoted from Niles_Crane The simple answer is - never write a script set in a stadium!

Amen!

It's fairly clear to me that there is a major difference between being outside a stadium and inside one.

All those people are inside the Yankee stadium. If they were outside it, they'd be milling around outside those thousand foot walls.

Going into a cemetry is like opening a farmyard gate and going into the next field. There is no structure. There is the cemetery and then the Church.

You have to go inside a football stadium to enter it and you don't leave the stadium to enter the stands, you are still within the stadium.

I'd have to agree with Dec here again.  Also, Niles has a good point, about stadiums being "structures' built by architects,as wel as just now writing a script that takes place in a stadium.

Here's a thought, if it is raining in your stadium scene do the crowds of spectators in the Internal shot, get wet?

If they do, then surely they are in an external shot.

Quoted from Ron Aberdeen Here's a thought, if it is raining in your stadium scene do the crowds of spectators in the Internal shot, get wet? If they do, then surely they are in an external shot.

But, that complicates things. Because then, you'd have to specify which stadium you're in, even if it's not integral to the story. Wouldn't that make it harder for the production team, too? Then, they'd have to scout out a particular stadium, rather than the most economical one. Right?

EDIT: Maybe I'll go look up the script for The Fan. There was a hurricane going on in the last game, but it was supposed to be San Francisco.

EDIT 2: I can't find the damn thing. Whatever.

Image the complication of holding Air Force One in the Air then helping it land, nose first, gently in the middle of a stadium.

Now I can’t remember if that was an Internal or External Shot, I’ll ask Superman next time he flies past.

Ron, what if some characters are in an old haunted house with a hole in the roof, and rain seeps in, soaking them all...we're still inside, and it's an INT shot.

From the screenplay for Crank 2, when Chelios is at the race track -

Quoted from Crank 2 INT. HOLLYWOOD PARK - 20 SECONDS LATER The place is bustling with energy. People eating, drinking, and betting. CHEV staggers through the place like a drunk man; each step is like death camp labor.

Quoted from sniper But I have a better idea, let's wait til the writers of the October OWC are revealed and then let's ask whoever wrote GHOST IN THE GRAVEYARD why he or she chose EXT. for this scene -- -- even though you have to pass through a gate to get inside the cemetery. What do you say, Jeff, should we wait for that?

Hm....

A scene in my script takes place in the woods and I wrote it as:

EXT.  DEEP IN THE WOODS - DAY

Quoted from slabstaa A scene in my script takes place in the woods and I wrote it as: EXT.  DEEP IN THE WOODS - DAY

As you absolutely should, slabby.

The other thing was an "inside joke" between Jeff and me.