Quoted from DustinBowcot He will write a professional log line, that's what he will do. So effing what? If any writer here cannot already do that then I dread to think what the script looks like. Just another failed writer that believes they can teach other writers how not to fail.

Not true, Dustin.  Many, many writers struggle to put together a "good" logline.  I know I sure do, and judging by the countless examples of horrendous loglines right here on SS, I'd have to imagine many do struggle.

Now, to pay for a logline?  Pay someone who hasn't even read the script?  Pay up front before agreeing that the logline works?  That's going to be very difficult to stomach.

Quoted from Dreamscale Not true, Dustin.  Many, many writers struggle to put together a "good" logline.  I know I sure do, and judging by the countless examples of horrendous loglines right here on SS, I'd have to imagine many do struggle. Now, to pay for a logline?  Pay someone who hasn't even read the script?  Pay up front before agreeing that the logline works?  That's going to be very difficult to stomach.

Jeff, curious as to your point of view here. You are an advocate of - if the first page has problems - I'm out. Presumably based on an assumption that if the first page is bad - the rest is crap.

What is it about a logline that would cause you to apply a different standard?

Quoted from eldave1 Jeff, curious as to your point of view here. You are an advocate of - if the first page has problems - I'm out. Presumably based on an assumption that if the first page is bad - the rest is crap. What is it about a logline that would cause you to apply a different standard?

Dave, I don't apply a different standard to loglines.  As I said, so many loglines on SS are literally laugh out loud terrible...so I know what will follow will be as well.

But, then again, there are poor loglines that are written quite well, in which it's hard to impossible to really get much about what is going to follow.

Does that make sense or not?

"....there are poor log lines that are written quite well....". To you, that doesn't mean poor stories are too follow? i.e., the writer' fundamental problem is not with log lines - it's with writing?

I mean, I get it - that a logline might be perfectly formatted, but is bad in terms of conveying a need to read. I just don't get how that is any different than page 1 of a script in your view.

Anyway - cheers.

What I mean is that some or many writers have trouble creating a logline.

It could be a great script but the writer may just have issues conveying that in a 1 or 2 line log.

As for the writing itself, whether it be a script or logline...well...IMO, it's very, very easy to tell who knows how to write and who doesn't and I'm not interested in reading a poorly written script...unless it's hilariously bad, as in a pisser, whether it's on purpose or not.

Add this to the growing list of ways that screenwriters get duped into giving someone their money to "make it" quicker.

This guy may be a champion at writing loglines, but there are so many other more worthwhile things you could be spending your money on.  As pointed out in entries above, a community such as this can easily help mold and shape your logline for free.

Also, what are the costs?  What if you're not satisfied with your logline?  What if you use it to query a bunch of times and you get no results?  How many times is he willing to help perfect it?  How do you measure the success of the logline?  You're basically just taking one person - with limited to no credentials - at their word that the logline he's providing you with is solid.

The chosen three should take their loglines and be happy, but I can't understand paying for this.

Lots of people struggle with loglines as proved with people asking for help on here, Stage 32, reddit etc... they can be tricky to write until it clicks for you.

Lots of people on here don't struggle with them, so they wont be using his services. No one is forcing anyone to use this service or any other paid screenriting service.

As far as I understand it he's testing the water and hasn't launched a service as yet, so there's no prices or anything else, but market research is always a good idea.

For what it's worth I thought he did a decent job with the logline he provided me, based on a 1 page treatment... so if I was rubbish at loglines and I thought his service cost effective then I MIGHT use it.

Of course there are already a load of people out there offering this exact service so who knows if there's enough business out there.

Learning how to write a logline is part of learning to write your script.

Quoted from TonyDionisio Learning how to write a logline is part of learning to write your script.

I agree, I think that's one of the most over looked part of the process that a lot of new writers don't bother with.  Loglines are tough to write (at first), until you get a better understanding of them. Of course loglines are very important if you want people to read your script.  

Part of the problem I believe is a lot of new writers finish their first script, don't put any thought or research into writing a logline because they are too busy writing their acceptance speech for the Oscars and picking out a new sports car.  Writing a script is not a get rich quick scheme like many new writers think.  It can take years.

Without a good logline, it's like placing your car on the corner of a busy street with no signs at all while trying to sell it.  You're not going to get inquiries about the car for sales if people don't know it's for sale and there is no number to call you.

I'm offering my tagline services for free to the first three that post. After the first three the price is 98.99$ per tagline.

Think of it like this. You can't put a logline on a POSTER! You can't put it in the trailer! The TAGLINE is where it's at!

But seriously, don't play someone for one sentence.