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eldave1
Posted: February 1st, 2017, 12:21pm Report to Moderator
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I'm with Anthony here. Not sure what you're asking. I mean there are tons of online resources that describe how to outline. Google is your friend.

I found the story you described as boring. I would not see the film based on the narrative provided. However, if it is for some personal journey - that the heck - write it or write regardless.


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The overall conflict is Ben not knowing how to deal with being a father.


Not really a conflict, IMO and extremely common. In my view, the conflict would be Ben desires to be a good attentive father but cannot because of X,Y or Z.  If he doesn't desire - then everything else is moot.


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The secondary conflicts are that Ben is given a sum of money, that alleviates certain aspects of his life.


Not a conflict unless Ben's desire was to be poor. Now - it may be Ben wants to be a shitty father cause he hates hanging around kids and the fact that he has to work so much gives him that excuse - and wala - falls into a fortune and now no more excuse.


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Another conflict is his wife trying to come back into their lives after being gone for however long the time span is of this story (haven't figured that out yet).


Not a conflict unless Ben doesn't want to have anything to do with her and there is some barrier that keeps him from doing that.


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Female Gaze
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I feel Steven is our special lil pony with a horn on his head. And we will just have to get used to that.

It's cathartic to him.

Let him be.
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I feel Steven is our special lil pony with a horn on his head. And we will just have to get used to that.

It's cathartic to him.

Let him be.


Totally lost.


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Female Gaze
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He does this a lot.
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I feel Steven is our special lil pony with a horn on his head. And we will just have to get used to that.

It's cathartic to him.

Let him be.


Can you please explain this? I'm not going to pretend like I'm the best writer on this site, because I know damn well I'm not even close. This place is a resource and a place for people to share. So I work on multiple things at once, so what?


Maybe I'm using conflict in the incorrect way. The only conflict is that he wants to be a good father, but doesn't know how. Certain things happen that helps him along the way until his ex shows up and he has to deal with that.

It opens with Ben and Junior not knowing how to deal with each other, and ends with them knowing that they don't need Lauren in the picture because she's toxic for a number of reasons which will be covered.

Yea, maybe it's a well-known type of story, but if the execution is good, then it should be a good screenplay.
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He does this a lot.


Still lost with the "let it be" - but done. Cheers


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Female Gaze
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Oh, goodness.

I'm defending you.

You have a tendency to post half-assed works and then want everyone to help drag the bits and pieces out of your script for you. We can't. You're the writer here. And I know you aren't doing it intentionally and frankly, no one is going to stop you from doing so, but at some point, people aren't going to be so inclined to help you either.

What I'm saying is give and take will be your friend on here. Write until you can't anymore and THEN post. Maybe, don't post every time an idea or new moment pops up in your script all the time. I said this to you before and so did a few other people.
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"Defending" me or not, I'm not breaking any rules by talking about what I'm doing. Maybe I should keep a journal, or you should stop reading my posts.
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So, let me get this straight? You're actually upset with me for defending you but Stevendiablo called you a stupid dumbass, attention seeker, and that's cool?

Warren told you the same exact thing only not so nicely...and eldave just called your work boring?

But I'm the bitch here? OK.

I at least helped you as best I could but by all means keep a journal....which doooooooooh? you're suppose to be doing anyway.

I'm out.
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READ SOMEONE ELSES SCRIPTS AND COMMENT ON THEM. HOLY F@#KING SHIT, COULD YOU BE ANY MORE SELF OBSORBED.

Might as well pay someone to write your scripts for you.


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So, let me get this straight? You're actually upset with me for defending you but Stevendiablo called you a stupid dumbass, attention seeker, and that's cool?

Warren told you the same exact thing only not so nicely...and eldave just called your work boring?

But I'm the bitch here? OK.

I at least helped you as best I could but by all means keep a journal....which doooooooooh? you're suppose to be doing anyway.

I'm out.


Ashlie

No you are not. This has spun out of control.

Everyone else,  

It is OWC week. General custom is to focus on the OWC.

So, I think whatever benefit of this question has been derive and I'm locking and will delete the thread.

Don


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