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Demento
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I'm running into a bit of dilemma.

I sat down wrote a script 3 weeks back. I wrote it real fast. Mostly because I'm stuck on a story I've been working for quite some time. I thought just write something else, then come back to it. Anyway, the story is pretty basic, mostly people in a room talking. So it's easy to shoot, if it ever comes to that.

But the twist, concept of the movie is something that gets revealed around page 45-50. Till that point it's a bit of a guessing game as to what is really going on.

Now do I sacrifice suspense, give up THAT twist in order to hook people with an interesting logline or do I write a duller logline and keep the twist for the read?

Basically that twist is the concept of my script.

What are some opinions on the subject?
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Anyway, the story is pretty basic, mostly people in a room talking.

But the twist, concept of the movie is something that gets revealed around page 45-50.


So the whole feature contains talking heads, mostly?

The dialogue better be pretty damned good, especially this twist...
So let me ask, do you think a lot of readers will even stick around to find out what this twist is?  
Will they even care what it is?

Humphrey Bogart once said, "If I ever have exposition to say, I pray to God that in the back of the shot they've got two camels fucking."

As for your logline, you'll always want to grab someone's attention.

You don't want to come right out and spoil the "big twist," but maybe you could hint to it in some form or fashion.

Why don't you send me what you have so far and I'll try to give it a read and help you out.


--Steve
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The most important thing is to get someone interested in your script, so don't hold back. If the twist is the thing that will grab someone's attention, I'd consider using it in the log.
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You can hint at the twist. But don't give it away.


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One of the greatest plot twisters was the film Sleuth. Here's how they handled the logline, hinting at the twist, but keeping it vague:

A man who loves games and theater invites his wife's lover to meet him, setting up a battle of wits with potentially deadly results.
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I wouldn’t even hint at. Word your log line in a way that sums it up without giving anything away. Even a small hint could potentially spoil a good twist. You want to people to be looking left while you pull the rabbit out from the right. If you hint at something in the log line, and the reader catches the twist before the reveal, it’s gonna’ lose some of it’s intended shock. Movies with great twists that you didn’t see coming don’t plug em into the log-line. None that I remember.

And if the twist is your catalyst for your script, and it isn’t revealed until midway through, you better make sure your story is engaging enough, and the characters entertaining enough for the reader to commit to reading up to the twist.

Maybe try and use something interesting about the character in the log line. Instead of focusing on a breakdown of your story. Maybe a line of two on who your character is, and what he’s about to go through. I dunno...just my opinion.



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Quoted from rendevous
You can hint at the twist. But don't give it away.


Here here.  Just hide the twist in mysterious language...  Tantilize the reader, but keep the details of the hook a secret.
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