The worrying thing is that humans never learn from their past - and so are condemned to repeat it.

Trump is written off as a joke, a buffoon, a racist, a sexist - a man who could never win an election in a civilised country.

Unfortunately, history proves that buffoons, racists, sexists, men who dangerous ideas who don't even hide them, do win elections, do take power, and then the result can be disastrous, and not just for the country in which they take office.

It can only be hoped that, come the day, enough Americans see sense and vote against Trump. Because God help us all if he wins.

Bogey - yup... there's that, too.  And even though Ivana "recanted", she had to because of the divorce settlement (there's always a non-disparage agreement.)  And she testified under oath that not only did Donald assault her, he also tore out handfuls of her hair in the process - because he was upset about what a doctor she recommended did to his scalp.

Beautiful people we're considering for the office of US President.  And our media - equally "great" for not calling out the candidates on things such as this.

And Simon - sadly, you're very right.  You don't know how many people I've talked to that want to vote Trump.... specifically because they hate Hillary and view Trump as "anti-establishment."  That man *could* win.  Which would be a disaster.  (Even if Trump gets "bored" and steps down, that leaves Pence in charge.)

Voting for more of the same is not an option for anyone in the West.

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films Voting for more of the same is not an option for anyone in the West.

I would take a third Obama term in a heartbeat.

I can't vote so what I think is sort of meaningless. I know one thing though, I can't wait for this election to be over.

My observation compared to previous election years though, is that I see basically NO political stickers on cars or in yards this time around. Other years almost half the cars have them. What does this mean? No one is happy with the choices available. Bernie stickers were often seen until he was squashed by the DNC. After that, those stickers disappeared. In conclusion to my little observation, neither HRC nor Trump excites anyone. FWIW, I live in a liberal university city.

Quoted from bert I would take a third Obama term in a heartbeat.

Oh man - that's so right!  I'd vote Obama in seconds (despite his endorsement of HRC, and failure to call out the DNC on the obvious primary rigging/corruption.)

I refuse to vote for either Trump or Hillary.  

Trump - because he's literally insane, racist, misogynist, criminal, violent and - as a clinical Narcissist - not in touch with reality or what his competencies are... if he has any.  

Hillary because she's amazingly corrupt, only interested in votes, money and power - and would be only "more of the same."  This isn't a strategic game with no consequences... voting Hillary in (vs. a third party such as Bernie or Jill Stein) just means that the economic mismanagement will continue.  Unnecessary wars, and people having their lives ruined due to lost opportunities and lack of basic essentials (such as healthcare, education, and a healthy job market.)  And no - Hillary isn't going to fix those things.  Everything she's proposed as a "compromise" to Bernie is carefully worded to mean nothing.  And this is a woman who supported DOMA when it suited her.  I don't trust her an inch.

Obama?  Yep, I'd definitely take him back.  Intelligent, reasonable, thoughtful.  Perhaps not perfect (because he got "in bed" with Hillary) - but he's been a solid President during a very difficult time for the US.

Quoted from Grandma Bear My observation compared to previous election years though, is that I see basically NO political stickers on cars or in ards this time around. Other years almost half the cars have them. What does this mean? No one is happy with the choices available. Bernie stickers were often seen until he was squashed by the DNC. After that, those stickers disappeared.

This is so true. In my neighborhood I only see yard signs for some congressional races, but not too many of those either. I suppose it's possible that social media has replaced the old fashioned yard sign/bumper sticker marketing, but I sense it's more than just that.

Oh hell.

I finally circle back around to engage in this site and find this.

The best post on this thread is from _ghostwriter. Great art work and totally fitting.

Followed by wonkavite's response. Which sums things up nicely.

There are just a couple of things . . .

Yeah, HRC is corrupt. On a global scale. But the Trumpster is also corrupt. It's only on a national scale but boy, is it ugly. Has HRC claimed global baknruptcy? SIX times? Has HRS driven hundreds of companies to close their doors because she refused to pay them? Or shorted them threatening to bankrupt them in court if they tried to collect? How many people have been injured or died on Trumpster construction sites and been denied injury claims? How many different races and sexuality types has HRC admitted she hates and will oppose? How many emails did the Bush administration loose track of? How many men died under Bush? And under HRC? How many wars did she fuck up? How many did the republicans?  

I see Trump attempting to run the country just as he did his business. Problem is, other nations will not tolerate stalling, law suites and bullshit.  But the wannabe Aryans if this nation will finally get their chance to be the supremacist they've always wanted to be.

That terrifies me enough to go out and buy a assault rifle. And that speaks volumes. I know I will have to defend myself against the Trumpkristallnacht that will one day come to pass if he is elected.

I believe that under Trump the Muricans will be "Purified". Wars against those who oppose us will be waged with great pride and idiotic hubris.

And before Trump's reign is over, this nation will be no more.

Sounds like a movie to me.

"Brewster's Millions" ----- "Vote for NONE of the Above"

I'm surprised to see so many not voting for Hillary. I don't care if she's corrupt or else - those who are against Trump shouldn't let him win. And there's just one way to do that - vote for Hillary.

At this point I don't care learning more about her. And I wouldn't want to put her down on forums either because all I know - that guy should not make it.
(yes, I'm American as well)

Quoted from Wes But the wannabe Aryans [of] this nation will finally get their chance to be the supremacist they've always wanted to be. That terrifies me enough to go out and buy a assault rifle...I know I will have to defend myself against the Trumpkristallnacht that will one day come to pass if he is elected.

You might want to see someone.

I'm not a US citizen and I don't live in the US but I just hope that Trump doesn't win. This guy is a lunatic, just like some of the people supporting him (Ann Coulter for example, what the hell is wrong with her?).

Please America, vote for Hillary. I'm sure she's got a couple of skeletons in the closet too but she's not nearly as insane as that bloated idiot from New York.