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sheepdogg_plankton
Posted: January 24th, 2004, 7:03pm Report to Moderator
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yeah.  i read it again, the wachowski's are doing KING CONAN.
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Yes, Neo and Trinity both die.


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sheepdogg_plankton
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so romantic.
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I've said this before, but I feel it deserves repeating. 

I don't think Neo died.  I felt that the ending suggested that Neo was whisked away by The God Of The Machine to experience the robot world through its eyes (so to speak...and because Neo no longer has any of his own).  I also think this is based on the ending of Le Morte D'Arthur, where King Arthur is "killed" in combat by his evil son, Mordred.  After his "death" he is carried away by the Lady of the Lake (among others) to Avalon, a mystical island where great heroes are taken to rest.  As written by both Thomas Mallory and Chretian De Troyes, Arthur will rise again from the dusts of Avalon to save England in its moment of greatest need.

I believe this is what is suggested at the end of Matrix: Revolutions.  No one ever says he died. In fact, it is said that the remaining heroes "may see him again someday."  All we see at the conclusion of the film is Neo's limp form being dragged away by the Machine Mind's tentacle.  Just because he allowed Smith to inhabit him in order to destroy him from the inside out (the opposite of the ending of Matrix 1), doesn't mean he died, just as Smith didn't die from the same attack previously.  In fact, it made Smith STRONGER.

I don't need to see another Matrix film, however there is an opening for Neo to return as some human/computer hybrid savior.


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sheepdogg_plankton
Posted: January 31st, 2004, 10:38pm Report to Moderator
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Dude, i hate to say this, but I think they pretty much established that he died.
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TylerDurden1544
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Dude, i hate to say this, but your wrong
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sheepdogg_plankton
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speaking of his limp for being carried away, that was one of my favorite shots of the movie.
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Yeah they did say 'f**king dont go there kid' but they still said 'if there was a 4th it would be Kid and Niobe' so they do still have an idea.
I dont think they'd bring back Neo like Jesus, but Morphues could have a cameo (non fighting) and theres still Animatarix 2 to come (hopefully this will have the Smith Vs Seriph story, and the Smith (between 1&2) story.
Fingers (and just about everything else) crossed.


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I hated the Animatrix.  I hope it doesn't come.
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Alan_Holman
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Neo will return, just like Goku always returns!  DB, DBZ, and DBGT rule!  There are many similarities between Neo, Goku, and Jesus; all three of them are spectacularly written fictional characters, except in the Book of Mormon.  The Book of Mormon, as a sequel to the bible, fails where many sequels fail: it just wasn't as Good as the first Good Book.  In fact, the Book of Mormon is an exercise in redundancy; however, its main character, Jesus Christ, remains a good archetype for characters who are good role-models.
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I thought about 1/2 of Animatrix was cool...the other 1/2 I thought was useless.  I would watch another one though.


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k, in my opinion, you have to look at the matrix: revolutions in a different light.  in Chinese mythos, an equilbrium must be established in Nature at all times, and if there is no balance, coincidence will do everything in its power to retain that balance. 
As said, and insinuated, Neo and Smith represented both by ying and yang.  Neo can't exist without an equal opposite force of evil, namely Smith.  So i mean, it's pointless if neo returns, cause if would just be to finish off smith again and die, because both he and smith can't coexist.  matter and antimatter......chh


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They were *SUPPOSED* to Produce the new Conan film, with John Milius directing but that fell through. Probably because of casting conflicts after Ah-nuld became the Governator. The V for Vendetta project is also supposed to be in the works at this time and the Wachowski's have a script for it (as I read a script review on that subject.) but beyond that there is nothing, nada. Except for this wierd mysterious project they are calling "Axis", and its supposed to be a revolutionary film with these amazing special effects, taking the next step forward in CGI. Basically how the original Matrix film did. It sounds pretty interesting but doesn't seem entirely likely that it'll happen. I'd love to see them go do a simpler film and get back into touch with Earth, I love their work but they need to make another "Bound", just so they come back to reality. But if you consider these two have only really made 3 films (Bound, Matrix, Revolutions and Reloaded [Which count as one because they were filmed together]) these guys have a prolific resume. Maybe the second and third Matrix films weren't that great, but considering the Wachowki's are still learning the trade, they have done damn well so far. Hopefully they will learn from their mistakes and craft a wholly better film, becoming great film-makers. Everyone has their flop, they just happened to flounder a bit but I'm sure they'll find their footing again. Don't forget Revolutions still made about 400 million dollars worldwide so its not like they aren't bankable. The big projects will keep rolling in and sooner or later we'll probably consider them the best in the business, or damn near. V for Vendetta would be a good project for them because they have a good grip on the darker points of reality, and they respect the art of comics. But anything they do, I will watch, so I just hope they make their next film soon, so I can buy a ticket and be first in line.
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I'd love to see them go back to their noir roots.  BOUND is a great, great movie. 

However, now I wanna know what all this AXIS buzz is about...


FS (Scott) Kessler
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They have produced a new Conan script, but now they've split because the dirctor wants to go a different way.

As for the new ANIMATRIX, I'd like to see...

*The whole SERIPH/MEROVIGIAN story
*How SMITH realised he could copy himself and get into the real world (did he see the Merovingian? ASAIN GUY: 'If you want to take something from our world to your world that does not belong, you must go to him')
*The SERIPH/SMITH story (I have beaten you before)
* & learn more about the Agents (where do they hang out on a Friday night? Just kidding)


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