It sucks. It's another Saw (without the great ending) mixed with Halloween. It doesn't have that edginess like the 70s version. The villains look more like good guys than bad people. There's going to be a lot of cat and mouse games.

I'm wondering if they're planning to remake American Psycho. They probably are no doubt.      

Quoted from Mr.Ripley I'm wondering if they're planning to remake American Psycho. They probably are no doubt.

I think we should wait like another 10 years for that. They could make a prequel though.

While there certainly isn't a high opinion of this idea, it's also hard to judge how the movie will be when made. If you're looking for ways to hate it (whether you say you are or not) then you will find a way, even if "it looks too clean" (which is, seriously, a really dumb reason, in my opinion). There have been remakes people have hated, and after I watched both films myself, I wondered if they really thought the remake was that bad, or if they were just hating for the sake of hating.

This movie isn't out yet. It's hard to hate something based on a trailer, which is the moviemaker's way of appealing to their target audience. Let's face it, people, as writers, we aren't a target audience for anything. We're too critical. They made the trailer to appeal to current horror watchers who thought One Missed Call was "awesome!" while those people overlooked the plot holes, horror cliches, and ridiculous ending.

I disliked the original version of this, as I said. I am interested, at least, in the remake to see if thirty years of experience has taught Mr. Craven anything about producing a decent film.

i'm really excited for this, the more i watch the trailer the better it looks! i watched the original not too long ago, i really don't understand what all the fuss is about, it's really snuff-film like, i wouldn't watch it again! this one looks like it will be good though, i have high hopes and that song selection was golden, taken by trees is great!

They should rename the film industry the Remake Industry, just for the sake of accuracy.

They appear to have pretty much given up.

I'm looking forward to the remake of New Moon, myself.


Phil

Quoted from George Willson Let's face it, people, as writers, we aren't a target audience for anything. We're too critical. They made the trailer to appeal to current horror watchers who thought One Missed Call was "awesome!" while those people overlooked the plot holes, horror cliches, and ridiculous ending.

This is, sadly, true. Being a writer and a film student, I've realized the more you get into it, the more critical you become. Instead of just enjoying a movie for what it is, you're always looking for ways it could be better. It's a curse and partly the reason I haven't been writing for a while. Still, I've always resented the fact that we essentially have to lower our standards to enjoy anything nowadays. The Dark Knight, for example, was not only fun to watch but it was extremely well-written and intelligent as well and it was intended for mass consumption (obviously). As a movie fan and not a writer or student, I don't see why other filmmakers can't follow suit, even if they're not making another Batman.

Sorry to go off on a tangent, I just thought George made a good point. Honestly, I can't really hate this movie as it hasn't come out yet but I don't much care for the idea of remaking this film. Personal feelings aside, the original just doesn't have what it takes to become a mainstream film, neither in tone nor in structure. It is what it is. I just don't see how it could translate. As much as I didn't care for The Hills Have Eyes remake or don't care for the idea of remaking NOES, I don't think the same applies to either of the original films.

I know the writer of this!  Well...I met him once.

But I know his fiancé!

Quoted from James McClung This is, sadly, true. Being a writer and a film student, I've realized the more you get into it, the more critical you become. Instead of just enjoying a movie for what it is, you're always looking for ways it could be better. It's a curse and partly the reason I haven't been writing for a while. Still, I've always resented the fact that we essentially have to lower our standards to enjoy anything nowadays. The Dark Knight, for example, was not only fun to watch but it was extremely well-written and intelligent as well and it was intended for mass consumption (obviously). As a movie fan and not a writer or student, I don't see why other filmmakers can't follow suit, even if they're not making another Batman.

While I get where you are coming from I see it a slightly different way. I don't see it as having to lowering our standards to enjoy a popcorn movie but more about lowering my expectations. I have greatly enjoyed some movies that are not that good just be going into the cinema with little or no expectations. Sometimes a film will actually exceed my low expectations and that usually turns into a great movie watching experience. That is entirely different from lowering your standards.

I watched Mark Kermode Interview Angelina Jolie recently and they got onto the subject of Tomb Raider. What she said really surprised me, I am paraphrasing here but essentially she said that she wouldn't go and see Tomb Raider, it was not a movie made for her. But she still made it and no doubt got paid handsomely for it. Did she lower her standards to make that movie or did she just acknowledge that she is in the entertainment business and go do her job?

There is a load of fluff and remakes that are putting most of the bums on seats in theaters everywhere. Personally I think it is mostly garbage. But is it fair to call it badly written? I am not sure. It seems to work, these things make money for everyone, the writers are all living in nice houses in the Hollywood Hills. Not every movie can be The Dark Knight, maybe writing some garbage is the way to go if you want to ever write screenplays for a living.

It is all about expectations of the customers combined with the intention of the filmmaker. I can forgive some awful movies when I am clear that it was intentionally a movie for the idiot kids who lap this stuff up. What is wrong with pandering to your largest customer base?

What I cannot forgive though is movies that were made by people like M Night Shalalalalman, people who believe they are serious film makers and yet make garbage movies. I feel okay calling M Night a crap screenwriter because he believes he is an important screenwriter with something to say. If he would just come out and admit he writes garbage for the masses then I would actually have much more respect for him and cut him some slack.

Anyway, get working on those specs folks because just like every fad ever I think the remake train will be rolling to an end soon. I can see a time in the not to distant future where collectively Hollywood will just stop talking remakes and will be on the hunt for fresh ideas again. Specs could well become big again.

I think there's a difference between popcorn and crap. I love Robert Rodriguez' and Stephen Sommers' movies. I wouldn't say either of them are particularly good writers but at least they make stuff that's fun and feels genuine. There's also a couple brainless chick flicks out there I enjoy (Enchanted, My Super Ex Girlfriend). But these remakes just feel joyless to me. Anyway, to each his own. A lot of people are probably gonna enjoy this one and I'm no one to stop them.

Quoted from James McClung I think there's a difference between popcorn and crap. I love Robert Rodriguez' and Stephen Sommers' movies. I wouldn't say either of them are particularly good writers but at least they make stuff that's fun and feels genuine. There's also a couple brainless chick flicks out there I enjoy (Enchanted, My Super Ex Girlfriend). But these remakes just feel joyless to me. Anyway, to each his own. A lot of people are probably gonna enjoy this one and I'm no one to stop them.

It's funny how remakes have become a genre unto themselves now. You hear people dismiss remakes as if they have some inherent tone, style or quality to them like westerns or J-horror. But a remake is for all intents and purposes just a label we can apply to films that have been made once before, or whose premise has been done.

Most people wouldn't include Craven's Last house in the remake genre. They wouldn't include The Thing, Croneberg's The Fly, Heat or De Palma's Scarface. But these are all remakes. And with the exception of Last House on the Left, I'd say they're all good.

I do think there's a difference between popcorn and crap, but not a stylistic one; it's all in the eye of the beholder. Personally I think what Stephen Sommers does is pure crap, to me it's cookie cutter soulless Hollywood shiny-shiny gutless mindless-without-the-fun PG13 fluff. These are the most boring movies I could watch because they're so predictable and take no chances in anything. Brainless fun for me would something like Dog Soldiers or Pitch Black, but again that's just one perspective...

Quoted from Death Monkey It's funny how remakes have become a genre unto themselves now. You hear people dismiss remakes as if they have some inherent tone, style or quality to them like westerns or J-horror.

Honestly... I think they do. Following 2002, I've only seen minor variations in remakes of horror movies excluding a select few that I could count on my fingers. Of course, I'm only talking about horror remakes in the 2000s so I probably should stop generalizing.

Quoted from Death Monkey Most people wouldn't include Craven's Last house in the remake genre. They wouldn't include The Thing, Croneberg's The Fly, Heat or De Palma's Scarface.

I would.

Quoted from James McClung Honestly... I think they do. Following 2002, I've only seen minor variations in remakes of horror movies excluding a select few that I could count on my fingers. Of course, I'm only talking about horror remakes in the 2000s so I probably should stop generalizing.

Yeah but like you say, then you're not talking about remakes (even if they're just horror), whose definition is that they're remaking a earlier work; you're talking about a specific wave of remakes within a specific time periode. You might say horror remakes as of late share stylistic tendencies, at least of lot of them, but the question then becomes: Is that style exclusive to horror remakes or do we see them in other films as well?

I'd argue that the style is one that's prevalent in modern MTV horror in general, and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the fact that they're remakes.

INT. PRODUCER'S OFFICE - DAY


PRODUCER: What did you wanna tell me Jim?

JIM: Geezus, I saw a movie last nigh. A great horror man, great horror.

PRODUCER: Really? Which one.

JIM: The Orphanage? It's the best horror i've seen in years.

PRODUCER: Really?

JIM: Yeah. A Spanish movie.

PRODUCER: I think we should remake it.

Quoted Text They made the trailer to appeal to current horror watchers who thought One Missed Call was "awesome!" while those people overlooked the plot holes, horror cliches, and ridiculous ending.

Who is this person who thought One Missed Call was awesome? This person should be studied and researched in laboratories.