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I've actually got an earlier draft of Jack A on Triggerstreet, and it's gotten five reviews so far, 4 were good, and 1 said that it was terrible. Which was fine, cause I don't expect EVERYONE to enjoy my script, but what really burned my ass?.....A flame about this high (holds hand three feet off the ground) Ba dum dum.
But, seriously, their review was littered with grammar and spelling errors, and they scored what I think is the bare minimum for the review to count. Plus their first line was something about needing believablilty, to which I said to myself "Self, why is this person reading my script, when that is their requirement?"
I don't know, but I thought my logline was pretty clear. At least clear enough to give the reader the idea that "Hey, I might have to suspend disbelief a little bit here".
And Bert, no offense taken on the rom-com thing. I've read some pretty bad ones myself.
I joined TriggerStreet first then joined screenwritersutopia then came here. I’ve posted more here because of some major failings of the other two sites.
Scriptwritersutopia appears to have little or no traffic although I must admit I discovered Charles Deemer, a screenwriting author/teacher/published author on this site and was astounded by what he had to say about writing spec scripts.
TriggerStreet is run by Kevin Spacey’s company Trigger Street Productions and although it may have been a damn good idea at the begining, I think the site is being abused myself..
When I joined I reviewed 3 screenplays, 2 for credit and one for free just for the Hell of it..
I eventually emailed the two screenwriters whose work I’d written reviews for and got replies from both..
Both screenwriters were very appreciative of my efforts and have kept in touch with me privately with ever since.. One, a guy, asked me to offer more criticism for his screenplay and I suggested I re-write it for him. He agreed and after four days my draft helped him move on to a new draft of his own with correct formatting, better dialogue and better choices for an inciting incident and reversal.. The efforts was obviously useful to him..
The second screenwriter was a female, her screenplay is called HALLS OF MANDRAKE and I don’t mind saying here right now, that this is one of the best spec scripts I’ve ever read. Her story, structure, characters, dialogue, inciting incident, reversal, and her script formatting was blob on, that good.. I wrote a very good review for it because I was bowled-over how amazingly good this screenplay was.. The women emailed me , she said she was so thankful etc. I informed her I really did think that her screenplay was of very high quality and said so in the glowing review..
About a month later, over the Christmas holidays, this lady emailed me and said I was being refered to THE HALLS OF JUSTICE for the review I wrote for her HALLS OF MANDRAKE screenplay.. I thought what the Hell for, for Christ sake??? I was confused... I considered my review to be well structured, impartial and un-biased and analysed and illustrated the various elements of this screenplays stucture..
I visited TriggetStreet.com’s discussion boards to find out what members were talking about.. I found a thread about myself where members were discussing about sending me to THE HALLS OF JUSTICE and I wasn’t allowed into the discussion because I was the one referred.. I’ve since discovered that I was not referred in the end but the reason I was reported for my review was a rival screenwriter was jealous, even envious of the HALLS OF MANDRAKE success, being in the TOP 10 of screenplays on TriggerStreet and the complaint was an attempt to torpedo her screenplay out of the top ten so the complaintee’s script could get access to that coverted top ten slot..
This was a real shity thing to do in my opinion and only goes to show that some people even use corrupt methods to gain higher placings in their rankings on TriggerStreet.com..
I was really disgusted about this and have never been back since..
I’ve since discovered Kevin Spacy isn’t that passionate about films anymore prefering to concentrate on the theatre.. If you look at his movie listings in IMDB you’ll find his output of films has decreased dramatically over the last couple of years.
Kevin Spacey has also vowed not to play psycho characters anymore because he is in a position as an A-list actor not having the need to prove himself in those kinds of roles..
I’ve also discovered Gary Oldman is of the same mind and refuses those roles anymore prefering character parts instead..
Therefore, the hype of TriggerStreet.com does not appear to offer what it purports to..
You’ll find SimplyScripts has a much more friendly community and although there are rules of conduct here I still think Don has got it right how this board runs.. Fair play to you Don...
10. Don't create a username that you just know will annoy someone or some group of people.
Does this go for avatars as well? Also, if someone did have a user name or avatar that was deemed offensive would they be asked to change it or would you delete it? I ask because I'm writing a script where this situation occurs.
That depends. Will the avatar and/or name offend a lot of people? Or just one or two? My avatar offends one person here (that I know of). But when I changed it for a few days, several people e-mailed me asking that I put it back.
10. Don't create a username that you just know will annoy someone or some group of people.
Does this go for avatars as well? Also, if someone did have a user name or avatar that was deemed offensive would they be asked to change it or would you delete it? I ask because I'm writing a script where this situation occurs.
Yes, it goes for avatars as well. Regarding what happens if I find it offensive? Depends on how offensive I find it. If either the username or avatar is mildly offensive I send an email or PM asking the user to change it. If either are, in my opinion, are very offensive I delete them.
I know how you feel. I'm not reall fond of them either.
I have a bumper sticker on my car that reads: "My doberman ate your pug." Someone asked me about my doberman, one time, and I told her she was gone. When asked what happened, I replied, "She choked to death on a pug."
Everyone who ever came to this board was once a "Little Joey Writer", assuming they'd be getting some valuable feedback. Rightfully, they should return the favor to the first person who GAVE the valuable feedback.
Newcomers need some time to get used to this site. They don't know anything about past users over-bumping the portal, etc. It's unrealistic to expect them to know.
Triggerstreet now requires four reviews before uploading your script. Their tests are supposed to insure you get readers who've qualified to review your work. That eliminates everyone who doesn't read your entire screenplay. That's great, because you have to see the author's intent, to judge a story fairly. Otherwise, it's just arguing subjective personal opinions and tastes. That's not productive. Whether the author produced what he set out to do is the critical guideline.
I don't like seeing avatars that are physically or religiously disgusting. It sure doesn 't help your image as a writer.
Everyone who ever came to this board was once a "Little Joey Writer", assuming they'd be getting some valuable feedback. Rightfully, they should return the favor to the first person who GAVE the valuable feedback.
Newcomers need some time to get used to this site. They don't know anything about past users over-bumping the portal, etc. It's unrealistic to expect them to know.
Triggerstreet now requires four reviews before uploading your script. Their tests are supposed to insure you get readers who've qualified to review your work. That eliminates everyone who doesn't read your entire screenplay. That's great, because you have to see the author's intent, to judge a story fairly. Otherwise, it's just arguing subjective personal opinions and tastes. That's not productive. Whether the author produced what he set out to do is the critical guideline.
I don't like seeing avatars that are physically or religiously disgusting. It sure doesn 't help your image as a writer.
As a recent arrival, I appreciate your comments! It's true, newcomers need time to familiarize themselves with the site. They're going to make a mistake or two. I know I have. Thankfully, the "old-timers" have been forgiving.
Myself, I lurked for a long time before registering. Still, until I actually posted, I had no idea of what was expected of a member. This, no doubt, says more about me than the site. Fact is, there is info, in spades, with respect to what's expected of members. Still, I encourage all to go slow with new members.
Those that abuse the site, though -- the ones that expect reads without reading, ought to be dismissed. Not reading, I think, is the one sin, the blasphemous one, that should see a member kicked. There are others, I'm sure, but being new, I couldn't say what they are.
In any case, being new, I want to reiterate (I've said this in a previous post), critiquing scripts, like writing scripts, is a craft. It's difficult. That said, there's a learning curve. One that requires time -- allow the new member time. Thanks,
I had an avatar that was all in good fun but some cry baby told on me. (I know who you are, big baby) If people don't have a sense of humor, you're really in for a rude awakening.
People who are offended by a cartoon (Which was what mine was before) and or Andy's Tanuki thing really need LIVES and for people who want to be professional writers really take too much time looking at avatars instead of writing.
Unless somebody is going to save Phil's avatar and use it to blackmail him in the future, get a life and look at what it is.
The only reason anybody noticed is because (The baby) told on me. It was animated... it could have been anything (I don't even know if it was that for sure, you never know these days) I will refer to this person as the baby because they do not even deserve to have a name.
It even took Phil about two weeks to notice (Mostly cause I haven't posted much lately) and I intend to keep it that way.
An avatar is something you can change in twenty seconds. If Don found it offensive he could have changed it on me (I believe an admin has that power over his members) and with that, I go back into obscurity.