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Posted: April 10th, 2006, 4:13pm Report to Moderator
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Yeah, the one with Jim Carey.I think it was his first movie.It had an interesting take on the vampire movies, sort of.Even though it was campy.

Didn't they get bitten on the inner thigh instead of the neck?


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I do remember the film Fearless Vampire Killers by Roman Polanski. I watched primarily because I had heard the cast recording for the musical Tanz der Vampire. I thought it was extremely funny. I enjoyed the humor more than the plot, which played on the audience's knowledge of the vampire myth as opposed to actually explaining very much, as I recall.


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There was a really strange vampire movie with Nicolas Cage where he was going crazy.  I couldn't tell if he had really been bitten or if he was imagining the whole thing and just went psycho.  There was the therapist.

It was called Vampire's Kiss.  You don't get any stranger than that movie.

Wow I didn't know he was producer of Shadow of the Vampire.

Sorry, I am browsing his IMDB page and saw that.

I have not watched the Jim Carey one.



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What does everyone think of creature features?  I think most are poorly done, with pathetic story lines and characters who deserve to die.

Has anyone seen the new, what is it, Cave?  Are the newer ones coming out any good?


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99.9% of creature features pale in comparision to Predator and the first two Alien movies....

why can't they make movies like that?  


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oh and with the exception of From Dusk Till Dawn and The Lost Boys... i generally hate vampire flicks.... i find them a bit boring and redundant.....


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99.9% of creature features pale in comparision to Predator and the first two Alien movies....

why can't they make movies like that?  


Exactly what I think.  Mostly because they lack even a basic storyline.  I can see a script writer standing infront of a producer.  "And we gotta have this giant snake because uhh snakes are like cool, and its going swoop down and chomp!"  Type of thing.

The lastest one I saw on sci-fi made me grimace.  A mammoth possessed by an alien is on a killing rampage in the modern day world.  I mean come on!  And the title is so original, so gripping, are you ready?  Mammoth

I can't believe these types of features are getting funded!  There are dozens of shark movies.  Only a few are any good.  I enjoyed deep blue sea because they had no problem killing off characters big or small, and when the chick dies, I was so happy for that.  She didn't find some miracle way out of it.  Although the guy did.

Vampire movies for the most part are very disappointing.  They have so much potential and tend to be pathetic.  Sadly.  

I enjoyed Jurassic Park, I wish they would have killed of Hamlet (is that is name or am I just close?) in it like they did in the book.  I don't think they should have made any sequels or at least should have done a better job crafting the story.  The second one wasn't terrible, the third one was rather far fetched.  They've had what, a year?  And they are evolving already.  Yeah right...  I've heard they are planning a Jurassic Park 4.  All I can say is it had better be fresh and pretty amazing.  I also heard they were planning a Die Hard 4, I loved the first one, the second one was good, the third one not so much.

What do you think of horrors like The 13th Warrior?  One that works on a type of folklore and legend, exists in the old world?  

And what does everyone think of comedy horrors.  Ones like Army of Darkness and Shaun of the Dead.  (I have not seen the latter.)


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Hey Ice Rose,

I can't say I've seen many decent vampire films of late, but I'm still drawn to them like a moth...

The inspiration for me is to write a BETTER script.  Of course, by the time it hits the screen (should we be so lucky).  Yeah, those d*** producers.  I'm talking about the ones that think it's cool to throw something irrelevant into the storyline.

Yeah, I saw a preview of that Mammoth flick.  Glad i didn't waste my time.

Sequels are killers.  The idea initially might have been OK.  Make another film to follow the success of the first.  The problem became, I think, when producers and execs started thinking ahead and greenlighting films that were designed from the get-go to be a series.  And  then they make all of these sequels or prequels that have no story.  All they do is cash in on the first success.
It doesn't have to be this way.  But too often it is.
I just saw Basic Instinct 2 and while all the reviews nailed it, I still had to see it.
I'm disappointed that Henry Bean was part of this.  I kind of expected more.  He wrote Internal Affairs with Richard Gere and Andy Garcia, which I enjoyed.

You mentioned films that take a popular theme and rework them into a period piece, based on legend or folklore.  I tend to shy away from them.  Not that they are necessarily bad.  Just not my thing.  I saw bits and pieces of the 13th Warrior and the Brotherhood of the Wolf.  My curiosity was piqued.  But not enough to say, go out and rent the DVD and see the whole film.

Back to vampire films. Well, actually independent horror films.  What do you think of Larry Fessenden's works?
He did Wendigo, No Telling (the Frankenstein Complex) and a vampire film, whose title escapes me.
Fessenden also acts in these films.  
He was also in the Bill Murray film Broken Flowers.
I find his work interesting, not always satisfying, but interesting.
No Telling is the one I would like to see.  I caught the closing moments of the film on IFC a few Halloweens back, when they were running a horror marathon.  From that point, I've tried to track down a video tape of the movie, with no luck.

Shaun of the Dead I saw and have liked more on the second and third viewings.
The humor is pretty good and the charactors are engaging.  I like the notion that people have to figure a way to adapt to what the zombies are doing, to exist while coming up with a way to stop the masses.
Peter Jackson's Dead Alive was another cool ride.
But I do miss the nightmare quality of George Romero's '68 original.  That film still haunts me.

Say, congrats on your success with your script(s).  
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Hi Abe,
You should watch 13th Warrior,  It was pretty good.  I am the same, it does inspire me to write better.  I hope I can help put out quality films and books for people.

Sequels are killers.  There are very few good sequels.  The only sequels I write are part of a series and are thought up before the first is written.

Larry Fessenden's, I haven't watched any of his movies.

Thanks for the wishes, I am writing two treatments right now.   I hate those things.  One is for financing and one is for possible placement.  I am crossing my fingers.


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On sequels, I thought "A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors" was the best of the series. So yeah, sometimes sequels can be better than the original.

But, what about remakes?

Has anyone seen a remake that was better than the original? I've seen plenty that weren't.    
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Quoted from Takeshi
On sequels, I thought "A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors" was the best of the series. So yeah, sometimes sequels can be better than the original.

But, what about remakes?

Has anyone seen a remake that was better than the original? I've seen plenty that weren't.    


Ransom and Scarface I thought were better than the originals, not that the originals were bad, it's just I think the remakes took it a step up. Other than that though, remakes suck and are completely pointless.
And just for the record, I thought the fourth Nightmare on Elm Street was the best. Don't know why, I just liked it. I also thought that both 2 and 3 in the friday the 13th series were both better than the first.


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The Hills have Eyes remake was better and like TBWCF, I think King Kong and War of the Worlds were much better than the originals. I'm trying to think of others but none are springing to mind...


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Recently, I have watched Cold Creek Manor.  It seemed more light suspense than horror.  My husband was horrified but at times I struggled to stay awake as parts of the story seemed to drag on.  I liked it better the second time I watched it.

As for vampire, Underworld one and two have been pretty good.  I would say two if not the best vampire movies I have watched.  

White Noise had it's scary moments, I still felt they could have used the static a little more.  The woman in the car was probably the scariest moment in the movie for me because she comes out of nowhere.  

There is another one I recently watched, it isn't a new release but it isn't old either.  It has Kevin Bacon (I think that's his name), anyway his wife's sister or best friend puts him under a deep hypnosis and he becomes ultra sensative to spirit presense.  Dead girl buried in his house, anyone recall what that movie's name is?  Starts with an S.

Anyway, that one highly underutilized the fear factor in my opinion.  What do you think?


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Quoted from IceRose

There is another one I recently watched, it isn't a new release but it isn't old either.  It has Kevin Bacon (I think that's his name), anyway his wife's sister or best friend puts him under a deep hypnosis and he becomes ultra sensative to spirit presense.  Dead girl buried in his house, anyone recall what that movie's name is?  Starts with an S.

Anyway, that one highly underutilized the fear factor in my opinion.  What do you think?


Stir of Echoes....i liked it.


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That was the one!  It was good, but I think they still underutilized the environment they had set up.


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