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Posted: February 27th, 2006, 1:02am Report to Moderator
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For the first twenty pages or so (proably atleat half an hour onscreen) my script seems like a Horror. Hostel/Wolf Creek like. But now, it's sort of turning into a hostage thriller, kind of like Cellphone or Firewall.

I don't wnat to call it a horror thriller. i don't reckon it can be a hard core horror while still be a thriller.

I'm leaning towards crime/horror, but I'm not sure, any suggestions.

Horror, by itslef, or thriller, by istelf, are out of the question.


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I see no problem with Horror/Thriller.

The movie "Saw" is listed as "Crime / Horror / Mystery / Thriller" in imdb.


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The thing is, people looknig for a horror will get bored after the first half of the script, and people looking for thriller will get taken back by the horror at the start.


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So you're following the "War of the Worlds" example...


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I...guess.....so


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Aren't horrors and thrillers more or less the same idea?  Maybe I'm just going too far outside the box.


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Generally speaking, "thrillers" - if you go by the widely accepted "Hitchockian" definition - are films about every day people who find themselves facing a danger they're unprepared for.  Funny thing is, horror films could easily be described as the same thing.

There's nothing wrong with amalgamating genres.  If you look throughout film history, genres have been combined pretty much since day one.  Try not to limit your story to one specific genre, because it's then that it becomes trite and forced.  Just tell your story, and let it be what it is.
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Is Horror/Drama too bizarre of a combination?

If the beginning would be boring to horror-seekers, as you say, then that tells me it's something dramatic and plot-important, but if it's too frightening for the casual thrill-seeker, then a horror tag seems additionally suitable (to drama), to me.
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Horror-Drama is possible.  I've done it.  I wont say how, but I have.  For it to not be unbelievable you have to combine the idea of horror affecting drama and vise versa.  Essentially though, horror and drama are the same.  All stories are drama, actually.


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you want to make sure your transitions are smooth... you don't want it to suddenly switch genres and alieanate people as right there the audience could get angry... you need to find a good balance so it doesn't suddenly switch genres half way through.. if you think that people will start to dislike it the second half or not  like the first half but enjoy the second then you need to change some things. Make your script flow better but still incorporate the plot you won't. You didn't give any details so I don't know how to do it but if you're really worried that the audience or read I should say will be split on only liking half of the movie then you're already starting with one big problem


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Ill just try horror. I think it will work, as I am sttill writing.


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Quoted from Alexander
Is Horror/Drama too bizarre of a combination?


No. I use Corpse Bride as an example of horror (because of the imagery)/romance. A bunch of freaky and horrific things happen within the structure of the story, but the core story is a romance. It boggled my mind...



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Have any of you seen From Dusk Till Dawn? That film is a perfect example, you think it's going to be one of those crime on the run films and boom they throw us in a complete 360.

Every film has elements of drama, even bad ones.


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Quoted from Alexander
Is Horror/Drama too bizarre of a combination?


If there's no drama in your horror, you're in trouble.

Film is a dramatic art. Everything is drama.
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I think the drama he was referring to is the straight drama as a genre as opposed to the simple dramatic aspect of all stories. Drama as a genre tends to refer to character-driven pieces with a very minimal action plotline. Instead of following the development of a plot where actual tangible things happen to the main character, the plot points revolve around events in the character's psyche making it a more novelistic genre than most of the others.

Of course, this genre makes us plotty people go crazy because we can't decipher where this movie is taking us giving us loads of trouble understanding why The English Patient and American Beauty even win awards.


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