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I have a question regarding back to back scenes set in the same location.
If a scene is set in a location, and then the following scene is set in the same location, but on a different day, what do I use? Would Later be appropriate, or should a new scene heading be used?
Hmm, personally I think it depends on the amount of time that has passed.
If it was a couple of hours I would just use LATER as a mini slug. If it was the next day I would write 'INT. LOCATION - NEXT DAY'
However, if it's important that you want the audience to know a few days have passed maybe consider using a super? 'SUPER: Three days later' or something along those lines.
Now off-course, not everyone will agree with this. This is just my 2 cent. Hope this helps.
Curtis
"No matter what you do, your job is to tell your story..."
On the first day of the scene, is it before the character goes to bed or does the scene end in the middle of the day and picks back up on a different day?
If it's at the end of the day, you could write in an action line that the character falls asleep and use a "MORNING" or "DAY" tag at the end of your next scene.
I think the short answer is use what ever makes it the clearest to your reader.
In terms of your specific question:
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If a scene is set in a location, and then the following scene is set in the same location, but on a different day, what do I use? Would Later be appropriate, or should a new scene heading be used?
I would generally do this:
INT. ELDAVE'S HOUSE - DAY
INT. ELDAVE'S HOUSE - NEXT DAY
Not sure if it violates any rules - but it is clear to me
Time elements in Slugs are what they are, and you shouldn't use something like NEXT DAY, DAYS LATER, A WEEK LATER, or anything like that at all.
Thin about it...how often does time fly in scripts/movies? Most of the time! If you were to do what some are suggesting, then why wouldn't you do that every time a day or more has passed?
Here's the bottom line...ending and starting scenes in the exact same location doesn't transfer well to film, unless you're doing this for a point...like showing the boring over and over routine a character is stuck in, or for comic effect of a characters doing whacky things in the same location over and over.
You need a new Slug every single time that time passes, whether or not the locale has changed. You just need to be more careful that it makes sense to your readers when time is passing and that's going to be with some sort of visual, written in an action/description line - because if there isn't a visual "showing" this, it wouldn't even be clear in a filmed version.
Time elements in Slugs are what they are, and you shouldn't use something like NEXT DAY, DAYS LATER, A WEEK LATER, or anything like that at all.
Thin about it...how often does time fly in scripts/movies? Most of the time! If you were to do what some are suggesting, then why wouldn't you do that every time a day or more has passed?
Here's the bottom line...ending and starting scenes in the exact same location doesn't transfer well to film, unless you're doing this for a point...like showing the boring over and over routine a character is stuck in, or for comic effect of a characters doing whacky things in the same location over and over.
You need a new Slug every single time that time passes, whether or not the locale has changed. You just need to be more careful that it makes sense to your readers when time is passing and that's going to be with some sort of visual, written in an action/description line - because if there isn't a visual "showing" this, it wouldn't even be clear in a filmed version.
I don't agree.
The premise was same location-later - so I am assuming there is a story reason for this. i.e., not going to debate the wisdom of having two consecutive scenes in the same location sense no one - other than the author of the post - knows the details.
Your scene heading should be what makes sense and adds clarity to the read. Whether you use - DAWN, DUSK, DAY, NIGHT or add a LATER. That's just my opinion.
Your scene heading should be what makes sense and adds clarity to the read. Whether you use - DAWN, DUSK, DAY, NIGHT or add a LATER. That's just my opinion.
All the time elements you listed are fine, Dave.
The issue is suggesting to use something like "DAYS LATER", NEXT DAY", "WEEKS LATER", etc. These do not transfer to film, and are in fact, unfilmables. But the bigger issue is that they are not acceptable Slug Time Elements
Would you advise someone to use such time elements every time there's a jump in time? Of course you wouldn't.
Each and every writer gets to choose where and when to set their story and why it's important.
If it is important, then they also need to come up with a way to visually show that...like...a clock showing different times, a calendar showing different dates, different seasons, different weather or lighting, etc.
This, in an odd way, is exactly why asides and unfilmables are such poor ways of writing, what should be shown or seen.
And just to be clear, "LATER" as a time element in a Slug shows time has passed, but that the overall time element is still the same - as in DAY or NIGHT.
The issue is suggesting to use something like "DAYS LATER", NEXT DAY", "WEEKS LATER", etc. These do not transfer to film, and are in fact, unfilmables. But the bigger issue is that they are not acceptable Slug Time Elements
Would you advise someone to use such time elements every time there's a jump in time? Of course you wouldn't.
Each and every writer gets to choose where and when to set their story and why it's important.
If it is important, then they also need to come up with a way to visually show that...like...a clock showing different times, a calendar showing different dates, different seasons, different weather or lighting, etc.
This, in an odd way, is exactly why asides and unfilmables are such poor ways of writing, what should be shown or seen.
Jeff: You are correct from a technical perspective. However, I believe that clarity and brevity trumps technical rules even in cases where there are unfilmables and asides. To me it is less about the writing and more about the reading.
Let's use the example of the calendar. So - it would be something like:
INT. DAVE'S HOUSE
The calendar shows "DECEMBER 25th.
But in order for that to work as a counter - the reader would have to know that the prior day was DECEMBER 24th which would mandate a calendar in the prior scene. Correct technically - boring and tedious from a reading perspective. So I prefer this:
Dave, you're confusing the "read" and the "watch" - as in theory, the script should be what the film turns out to be.
In a filmed version of your example, how would anyone watching know it's now the next day?
Jeff - I get that it's an unfilmable. My view - let the Director figure it out as we do with so many other aspects of writing. Maybe the Actor has a one day growth of beard - maybe he using a spinning newspaper - maybe he throws in a SUPER. To me, it doesn't matter and I don't think much like camera directions and the whole host of other things we say leave to the Director or the Actor that this is really all that different. I do know it reads better the way I have it - at least to my taste. So again - yep - technically, I think you are correct and that is valuable for the original poster to know. I'm still recommending the slug approach cause I think it is better than the technical approach. Cheers mate.