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Mr. Blonde
Posted: November 25th, 2009, 12:12pm Report to Moderator
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Yes, this has nothing to do with screenwriting.

Yeah, this is easy to explain, but I get depressed thinking about it.

Ok. I was writing for the 7WC. Final Draft when into Auto-save. Froze in Auto-save. Shut itself down. When I open it back up, to go back to writing, it says "File not found." So, I search the folder. The file's gone. I do a search of the whole computer. I find a... almost like a shortcut of a shortcut. Then, I click on it. It comes up saying: "Missing Shortcut. Windows is searching for the file. To locate the file yourself, click Browse." But, there's no file to find. Then, it says, "The item that this shortcut refers to has been changed or moved, so this shortcut no longer works properly. Do you want to delete this shortcut?"

So, is my story gone completely or can it be recovered? If so, how? If not, I'm sure as fuck not going to restart it. I'd probably quit after this.

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Baltis.
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Take the file link you are clicking on and use a file converter to see if you can open it up that way.  OR, try taking the file link and opening it up in notepad.  It won't be formatted properly but it might have your text strokes available.

I'll check into it a bit more for you since I use Final Draft from time to time myself.
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I'm not a computer expert by any stretch of the imagination but maybe you should check your Temp folders with your settings on "Show Hidden Files". I think some programs save into these Temp folders until you close the program so after a crash, they might well be there.

I hate the Final Draft I have. There's so many bugs that get on my nerves and I can't justify paying for an upgrade until after Christmas.
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Quoted from Baltis.
Take the file link you are clicking on and use a file converter to see if you can open it up that way.  OR, try taking the file link and opening it up in notepad.  It won't be formatted properly but it might have your text strokes available.

I'll check into it a bit more for you since I use Final Draft from time to time myself.


Thanks, Balt. I checked into it, too. The only real advice I got from a quick check was, "File's gone? You're fucked."

I'll try it and do some more checking myself.

EDIT: Yeah, I should've figured it wouldn't work. The link I have isn't the file. It's a shortcut of the shortcut for the file. So fucking stupid, this problem. How does it freeze and delete a file? Really.


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I'm not a computer expert by any stretch of the imagination but maybe you should check your Temp folders with your settings on "Show Hidden Files". I think some programs save into these Temp folders until you close the program so after a crash, they might well be there.

I hate the Final Draft I have. There's so many bugs that get on my nerves and I can't justify paying for an upgrade until after Christmas.


Me neither, Brian. Personally, I hate computers.

I'll give that a shot, too. I like Final Draft and this is my first problem with it. Hopefully, it's not a prelude of things to come.

Also, I tried System Restore, but I forgot that it doesn't alter your files, so I should've known that that wouldn't have recovered it anyway.


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Take a look in your recycle bin.  You may have a copy lying around inside there.
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Take a look in your recycle bin.  You may have a copy lying around inside there.


Empty. If only it were that simple.

No, by now, as it happened about an hour and a half ago, I'm over it.

I've accepted that it's gone.


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Do a search on your drive for any file named *.fdr  (If you aren't using Final Draft 8 ).  This should turn up all the files that are final draft.  You may see your file in that list.
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Very often those programs make automatic backups of files and they don't always have the same file name or extension. Sometimes you'll find an oddly named file in your directory that you can open in the program or even in notepad that will contain the text of the file which would save a lot of time in rewriting. Worked once for me. Check every file in the directory you were saving this file in to see. You might also check the FD program directories.

You can also do a search on your computer for a text within the file that you lost. It's time consuming, but worth a shot as well.


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Yeah, but I'm guessing this file isn't in the directory he expects it's in.  Maybe it got saved somewhere strange.
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Ok, here's where I'm at, now.

Haven't tried the last two suggestions yet. Downloaded "Recover my Files". It found the script and all my saves of it. They're there in .fdr format, but when I try and open them in Final Draft, it says, "Unexpected File Format" and shuts itself down.

So, I have it, but it's not reading. What do you think? Re-install FD or try and search the files for the original version of the script?


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The script and all your saves of it?  Have you tried an earlier save of it rather than just the last save?  If you can't open any of then then do as Baltis suggest and open the file in notepad and you should at least be able to get the text - though it won't be formatted.  

I also would still search your disk for fdr files.
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The script and all your saves of it?  Have you tried an earlier save of it rather than just the last save?  If you can't open any of then then do as Baltis suggest and open the file in notepad and you should at least be able to get the text - though it won't be formatted.  

I also would still search your disk for fdr files.


Yeah, all the saves. But, they're the same problem. Won't open in FD.

Tried Notepad, as well. Came up as these damned weird symbols. Same for Word. Seen it and, didn't work.


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The "Unexpected File Format" message sounds like it's trying to open the file with something other than FD.  Can you right click, select "open with", then choose FD from a list?


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I had this problem very recently, the day before a very important deadline.

The fucker deleted my whole file.

Do you have any other hardrives attached? Or a pen drive?

It sometimes saves a little bit of the file onto something it's not supposed to. Put them all back in and search again.

For me it just suddenly decided to work again on about the third time I restarted my computer
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I had this happen once with Final Draft 8. I closed the program and opened my documents and found it with all my other Final Draft files. I opened it from there and voilà, it was back.


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Quoted from Shelton
The "Unexpected File Format" message sounds like it's trying to open the file with something other than FD.  Can you right click, select "open with", then choose FD from a list?


Yeah, it was set to open in something else, but yes, I had tried
Open With" before my previous message.


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I had this problem very recently, the day before a very important deadline.

The fucker deleted my whole file.

Do you have any other hardrives attached? Or a pen drive?

It sometimes saves a little bit of the file onto something it's not supposed to. Put them all back in and search again.

For me it just suddenly decided to work again on about the third time I restarted my computer


It was saved directly to my external. Full search of the computer came up with nothing.


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I had this happen once with Final Draft 8. I closed the program and opened my documents and found it with all my other Final Draft files. I opened it from there and voilà, it was back.


Breanne


I hope that happens, but I'm honestly not holding my breath.

Trouble is, I found it. I mean, I have it. It just won't open in FD despite being a .fdr file. Are there any file-type converters that I could change it to, then change it back?

-Sean


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Yeah, it was set to open in something else, but yes, I had tried
Open With" before my previous message.


Okay.  The way it was described sounded like you tried it a different way.  Which version of FD are you using, and did you have a previous version at some point?

As far as conversion goes, you may be able to right click the file, then use the save as option to save it as an rtf doc.


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Quoted from Shelton
Okay.  The way it was described sounded like you tried it a different way.  Which version of FD are you using, and did you have a previous version at some point?

As far as conversion goes, you may be able to right click the file, then use the save as option to save it as an rtf doc.


I'm using 7 and no.

I'll try the Save As. Thanks.

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Ok, I'm starting tofigure this out.

It seems with this recovery program that every file I retrieved (I got other old ones; files and videos), they are all corrupted and won't open.

Corrupted, to me, means it's dead, for all intents and purposes.

Now, the question becomes, "How to uncorrupt?"

-Sean

P.S. I hate this.


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Once things are corrupted it is very unlikely to be able to uncorrupt them.  The exception would be something like a zip file which has tools to let you uncorrupt it.  I don't think final draft has any uncorrupt tools.
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Once things are corrupted it is very unlikely to be able to uncorrupt them.  The exception would be something like a zip file which has tools to let you uncorrupt it.  I don't think final draft has any uncorrupt tools.


Thanks, Michael.

On that note, I'm out of the 7WC. Lol.

-Sean


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Keep trying different ways.

Like I say, it did this to me and then one time it simply opened up as normal.

Also try opening it in final draft itself, rather than clicking on it.
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Did you try making a PDF of the file you have?  Try right clicking it and going to PDF view or print PDF.  See if you can get a hardcopy of it.  Or split it with HJ split and put it back together... That has worked wonders for me in dealing with broken html code before.
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I had this problem before except with all my scripts over all my devices they are backed up on and after all the people who tried to help here and the customer support at FD... you are pretty much screwed.

I lost a script that I had written and it didn't save and rewrote all over again just to have "Unexpected File Format" ruin the thing.

Sounds like the same problem, you should check everything else just in case.


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Sean, we have to find out whether it's the file or the program.

If you want to send me the file via email (if you trust me!) I can try and open it in my FD. If it opens, it's your program. If it doesn't open, it's the file.

Please do not give up now, when there are heaps of suggestions here.


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Hey, I have a text editor that I opened a good fdr file in and I scrolled down a bit t find the entire text of the script in perfectly readable format. Sometimes, you just have to scroll past the garbage. You can also send the file to me and I'll see if I can do anything with what I have. I've done my share of hacking. mailto:willson3@valornet.com

Continue to not give up. Don't delete it yet.

Wes's problem was an utter corruption. His file had a complete set of null characters, so he was completely screwed. Maybe you'll be luckier. If you send it, I can tell you pretty quick whether it's worth it or not.


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Quoted from Tommyp
Sean, we have to find out whether it's the file or the program.

If you want to send me the file via email (if you trust me!) I can try and open it in my FD. If it opens, it's your program. If it doesn't open, it's the file.

Please do not give up now, when there are heaps of suggestions here.



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Hey, I have a text editor that I opened a good fdr file in and I scrolled down a bit t find the entire text of the script in perfectly readable format. Sometimes, you just have to scroll past the garbage. You can also send the file to me and I'll see if I can do anything with what I have. I've done my share of hacking. mailto:willson3@valornet.com

Continue to not give up. Don't delete it yet.

Wes's problem was an utter corruption. His file had a complete set of null characters, so he was completely screwed. Maybe you'll be luckier. If you send it, I can tell you pretty quick whether it's worth it or not.


Thank you both. E-mails were sent.

And, thank you to everyone who offered to help or gave a suggestion. I really appreciate it. =)

-Sean


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