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...at least some of them:

Best Picture
Avatar
Up
Up in the Air
The Blind Side
District 9
A Serious Man
Precious
An Education
Inglourious Basterds
The Hurt Locker

10 movies? Haven't seen that before.

Best Director
- James Cameron (Avatar)
- Kathryn Bigelow (The Hurt Locker)
- Quentin Tarantino (Inglourious Basterds)
- Lee Daniels (Precious)
- Jason Reitman (Up in the Air)

Best Actor
- Jeff Bridges (Crazy Heart)
- George Clooney (Up in the Air)
- Colin Firth (A Single Man)
- Morgan Freeman (Invictus)
- Jeremy Renner (The Hurt Locker)

Best Actress
- Sandra Bullock (The Blind Side)
- Helen Mirren (The Last Station)
- Gabourey Sidibe (Precious)
- Meryl Streep (Julie and Julia)
- Carey Mulligan (An Education)

Best Supporting Actor
- Matt Damon (Invictus)
- Woody Harrelson (The Messenger)
- Christopher Plummer (The Last Station)
- Stanley Tucci (The Lovely Bones)
- Christoph Waltz (Inglourious Basterds)

Best Supporting Actress
- Penelope Cruz (Nine)
- Vera Farmiga (Up in the Air)
- Maggie Gyllenhaal (Crazy Heart)
- Anna Kendrick (Up in the Air)
- Mo'nique (Precious)

Best Original Screenplay
- Mark Boal (The Hurt Locker)
- Quentin Tarantino (Inglourious Basterds)
- Alessandro Camon and Oren Moverman (The Messenger)
- Joel Coen and Ethan Coen (A Serious Man)
- Peter Docter, Bob Peterson, Tom McCarthy (Up)

Best Adapted Screenplay
- Neill Blomkamp and Terri Tatchell (District 9)
- Nick Hornby (An Education)
- Jesse Armstron, Simon Blackwell, Armando Iannucci, Tony Roche (In the Loop)
- Geoffrey Fletcher (Precious)
- Jason Reitman, Sheldon Turner (Up in the Air)

Full list HERE.


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My picks:

Best Picture - A Serious Man

Best Director - Kathryn Bigelow

Best Actor - I haven't seen enough to pick.

Best Actress - Haven't seen any of them.

Best Supporting Actor - Christoph Waltz (Inglourious Basterds)

Best Supporting Actress - Man, I need to see more movies.

Best Original Screenplay - Quentin Tarantino (Inglourious Basterds)

Best Adapted Screenplay - Neill Blomkamp and Terri Tatchell (District 9)
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Quoted from dresseme
My picks:

Best Picture - A Serious Man

Best Director - Kathryn Bigelow

Best Actor - I haven't seen enough to pick.

Best Actress - Haven't seen any of them.

Best Supporting Actor - Christoph Waltz (Inglourious Basterds)

Best Supporting Actress - Man, I need to see more movies.

Best Original Screenplay - Quentin Tarantino (Inglourious Basterds)

Best Adapted Screenplay - Neill Blomkamp and Terri Tatchell (District 9)


Are those your "I Want" or "I Think" picks?

I only ask because each year I have to make two lists, the ones I want to win versus the ones I think the Academy will pick to win.


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Quoted from Mr. Blonde


Are those your "I Want" or "I Think" picks?

I only ask because each year I have to make two lists, the ones I want to win versus the ones I think the Academy will pick to win.


Happens all the time. I want Inglourious Basterds to win, but only Waltz has a realistic shot.... QT for screenplay, maybe.
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Quoted from Mr. Blonde


Are those your "I Want" or "I Think" picks?

I only ask because each year I have to make two lists, the ones I want to win versus the ones I think the Academy will pick to win.


Those are my "I Wants".
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Happens all the time. I want Inglourious Basterds to win, but only Waltz has a realistic shot.... QT for screenplay, maybe.


I doubt the script but yeah, Waltz is a shoe-in. Just like Saving Private Ryan was a shoe... Oh, wait. Never mind.


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Those are my "I Wants".


Gotcha. If only the "Wants" and the "Thinks" were the same answer. =)


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Wow! I can't believe District 9 got nominated. I mean, it was great. Oscar caliber. But the thought of it actually being nominated always seemed like a pipe dream to me, just like The Dark Knight.

I think the following will win for a certainty but so as to avoid eating my words later, I'll call these guesses.

Best Picture
- Avatar

Best Director
- James Cameron (Avatar)

Best Actor
- Jeff Bridges (Crazy Heart)

Best Actress
- Gabourey Sidibe (Precious)

Best Supporting Actor
- Christoph Waltz (Inglourious Basterds)

Best Supporting Actress
- Mo'nique (Precious)

Best Original Screenplay
- Quentin Tarantino (Inglourious Basterds)

Best Adapted Screenplay
- Jason Reitman, Sheldon Turner (Up in the Air)

Best Animated Film
- Up

Best Foreign Film
- The White Ribbon

As much as I'd like Inglourious Basterds to win Best Picture, I think Avatar will and deserves to win. I do NOT think James Cameron deserves to win Best Director. Quentin Tarantino is much more of a genuinely creative filmmaker. James Cameron just knows how to package something so it makes a ton of money. Given the technological landmark Avatar has become, I think giving the award to Tarantino would set a bad precedent but just the same.



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Delighted D 9 got nominated.

Along with Avatar it was easily the best film of the year. It's gratifying that it's being recognised by the Academy. It got nominated in the top five at the Bafta's as well.

I suppose sometimes films are just too good to ignore, even when they are ghetto genres.

James, I'm interested in the fact you say Tarantino is more creative than Cameron, are you sure?

Tarantino films tend to be pastiches of his influences at best...I love his energy, I'm not sure he's that creative personally.
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Wow! I can't believe District 9 got nominated. I mean, it was great. Oscar caliber. But the thought of it actually being nominated always seemed like a pipe dream to me, just like The Dark Knight.

I think the following will win for a certainty but so as to avoid eating my words later, I'll call these guesses.

Best Picture
- Avatar

Best Director
- James Cameron (Avatar)

Best Actor
- Jeff Bridges (Crazy Heart)

Best Supporting Actor
- Christoph Waltz (Inglourious Basterds)

Best Supporting Actress
- Mo'nique (Precious)

Best Original Screenplay
- Quentin Tarantino (Inglourious Basterds)

Best Adapted Screenplay
- Jason Reitman, Sheldon Turner (Up in the Air)

Best Animated Film
- Up

Best Foreign Film
- The White Ribbon

As much as I'd like Inglourious Basterds to win Best Picture, I think Avatar will and deserves to win. I do NOT think James Cameron deserves to win Best Director. Quentin Tarantino is much more of a genuinely creative filmmaker. James Cameron just knows how to package something so it makes a ton of money. Given the technological landmark Avatar has become, I think giving the award to Tarantino would set a bad precedent but just the same.


I think you've got them all except Original Screenplay. The Academy has to pay Cameron back for all the time and money he spent. I think Avatar will take Screenplay, as well.

As for director, that one I can understand for Cameron. I mean, he developed a completely new way of filming to do the movie. He's definitely not a better director, overall, but this time around, I can understand it.


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Quoted from Mr. Blonde
I think you've got them all except Original Screenplay. The Academy has to pay Cameron back for all the time and money he spent. I think Avatar will take Screenplay, as well.


That would be particularly impressive considering he's not even nominated!

I'm disappointed to see Public Enemies so completely snubbed, and I would have liked to see (500) Days of Summer up for Original Screenplay, but overall these seem about right. Hurt Locker for the win!


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Quoted from Mr. Blonde


I think you've got them all except Original Screenplay. The Academy has to pay Cameron back for all the time and money he spent. I think Avatar will take Screenplay, as well.


Avatar wasn't nominated for Best Original Screenplay.


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James, I'm interested in the fact you say Tarantino is more creative than Cameron, are you sure?

Tarantino films tend to be pastiches of his influences at best...I love his energy, I'm not sure he's that creative personally.


I won't deny how generously Tarantino incorporates his influences but so did Cameron. He used  the same classic animating techniques Disney's been using for decades to make his alien characters look as sympathetic as they did.

Take two scenes from Inglourious Basterds. The introduction of the Bear Jew and the "Putting Out Fire (With Gasoline)" sequence. Both memorable scenes not only for what was going on but also the use of editing and composition as well as the juxtaposition of the sound and/or music. Cameron never does any of this stuff. What he does is called "invisible editing" or "Hollywood style." The whole purpose of this style is to completely conceal the filmmaking so that the audience is fully immersed in the story. Neither style has any baring on how good the film is going to be but one requires more thought and imput from the director while the other doesn't.

So I'm sticking to my guns, good sir.


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I must have a computer that can travel forward in time. Because according the wiki on my laptop Avatar has already won Best Picture:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Picture

I better go find a bookie and put everything I’ve got on it.  

But seriously, with ten movies getting nominated for Best Picture I can't believe Crazy Heart didn't get one, given that Jeff Bridges has already won the Best Actor awards at the Golden Globes and SAGS, and is the favourite to get the Oscar.

As for the Best Foreign Film nominees, I read about them today and "Ajami" and "Un Prophete" sound like the bomb.


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Best Picture

The Hurt Locker

( i haven't seen avatar)

Best Director

-Kathryn Bigelow (The Hurt Locker)

Best Actor

- Jeff Bridges (Crazy Heart)

I like him a lot but i havent see the movie.... I just believe that its his time  

Best Actress

- Meryl Streep (Julie and Julia)

Best Supporting Actor

- Christoph Waltz (Inglourious Basterds)

The best!

Best Supporting Actress

- Mo'nique (Precious)

Best Original Screenplay

- Quentin Tarantino (Inglourious Basterds)

For its perfect dialogues




Those are <<i want>> mixed with <<i think picks>>.... If anyone asks about it!!!!
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What are you guys' feelings about 10 films being nominated for Best Picture (as opposed to the usual 5)? Was 2009 really that good compared to the other years - or was it simply too average to pick only a handful?


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Quoted from sniper
What are you guys' feelings about 10 films being nominated for Best Picture (as opposed to the usual 5)? Was 2009 really that good compared to the other years - or was it simply too average to pick only a handful?


Not that good at all ........ I think that the oscar comittee changes the << rules>> ...... Everything for commercial purpose of course........ Now 10 movie can attract people with the <<nominated for best picture>> tag.............
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That would be particularly impressive considering he's not even nominated!


But that's what I'm saying about Cameron. Typically, the Academy would reward him, like they did with Titanic for nominating it for everything possible.


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Not that good at all ........ I think that the oscar comittee changes the << rules>> ...... Everything for commercial purpose of course........ Now 10 movie can attract people with the <<nominated for best picture>> tag.............

Yeah, sure, that would be a valid reason.

I think the Oscar-people finally realized that the mainstream movie going audience aren't tuning in to watch the award show itself because the movies nominated for Best Picture are usually movies they've never heard about. So now they throw movies like Avatar, District 9 and Up in there - all of them good movies, sure - but Oscar worthy? Not in my definition.

But then again, I usually get the winners wrong anyway, and since movies like Shakespear In Love, Crash and Chicago can win best picture why not Avatar?



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I won't deny how generously Tarantino incorporates his influences but so did Cameron. He used  the same classic animating techniques Disney's been using for decades to make his alien characters look as sympathetic as they did.

Take two scenes from Inglourious Basterds. The introduction of the Bear Jew and the "Putting Out Fire (With Gasoline)" sequence. Both memorable scenes not only for what was going on but also the use of editing and composition as well as the juxtaposition of the sound and/or music. Cameron never does any of this stuff. What he does is called "invisible editing" or "Hollywood style." The whole purpose of this style is to completely conceal the filmmaking so that the audience is fully immersed in the story. Neither style has any baring on how good the film is going to be but one requires more thought and imput from the director while the other doesn't.

So I'm sticking to my guns, good sir.


I disagree with this, James.  I do agree that Inglorious Basterds was a much more impressive achievement in terms of coverage, editing, sound choices, and many of the other technical aspects of directing.  However, these impressive filmmaking choices, while great fun for film students like you and I, were in many cases showy and did not always serve the story as a whole.  Tarantino has always wanted to try unique things and new things and a big variety of things but he is not always concerned with how they will serve the creation of a cohesive film.  So, he tried a lot of interesting things, but often as not, they were..."interesting", rather than serving the storytelling.  In fact, in the end, we discovered that Basterds wasn't about anything at all...no character arc for anyone, just some vague themes of vengeance and good and evil.  That film has no soul.  Cameron stuck with his tried-and-true style, and it may not have given film types a bunch of exciting, unique shots to talk about, but it did connect with audiences to become the biggest film of all time.  More importantly, it was a film that offered Cameron's perspective on a lot of things that he feels deeply about.  So, should we celebrate innovation over the well-executed standard?  Only, in my opinion, if the innovation allows the film to connect more strongly with audiences...which Basterds did not, for me, over Avatar.

And, for the record, if one is to consider the bodies of work of the two...Tarantino is a legend, he's unique, he's an innovator, he's the reason I got into film as a young guy, but come on now...Cameron is the better storyteller.
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What I would Like To See:

Best Picture - Inglourious Basterds

Best Director - Kathryn Bigelow

Best Actor - Jeff Bridges.

Best Actress - Carey Mulligan.

Best Supporting Actor - Christoph Waltz

Best Supporting Actress - Mo'nique.

Best Original Screenplay - Quentin Tarantino

Best Adapted Screenplay - Jesse Armstron, Simon Blackwell, Armando Iannucci, Tony Roche

Best Foreign Film - The White Ribbon (Un Prophete a close second, excellent film)


What I will (probably) See:

Best Picture - Avatar

Best Director - James Cameron (Maybe Kathryn Bigelow)

Best Actor - Jeff Bridges

Best Actress - Gabourey Sidibe or Sandra Bullock

Best Supporting Actor - Christoph Waltz

Best Supporting Actress - Mo'nique.

Best Original Screenplay - The hardest one to call for me - Mark Boal, The Coens or Quentin Tarantino

Best Adapted Screenplay - Geoffrey Fletcher or Jason Reitman, Sheldon Turner

Best Foreign Film - The White Ribbon

Can't say I'm too enamoured with the 10 nominees, more self promoting, name dropping from Hollywood. Bums on seats!Bums on seats!Bums on seats! ...Repeat to Fade...


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here's my wants:

Best Picture
A Serious Man

Best Director
James Cameron (Avatar)

Best Actor
Jeff Bridges (Crazy Heart)

Best Actress
Sandra Bullock (The Blind Side)

Best Supporting Actor
Christoph Waltz (Inglourious Basterds)

Best Supporting Actress
Anna Kendrick (Up in the Air)

Best Original Screenplay
Quentin Tarantino (Inglourious Basterds)

Best Adapted Screenplay
Nick Hornby (An Education)

got to say, i'm reaally disappointed that Sam Rockwell didn't get a nom for his work in Moon! thought he did a great job, too bad! me and oscar never really agree


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Yeah, sure, that would be a valid reason.

I think the Oscar-people finally realized that the mainstream movie going audience aren't tuning in to watch the award show itself because the movies nominated for Best Picture are usually movies they've never heard about. So now they throw movies like Avatar, District 9 and Up in there - all of them good movies, sure - but Oscar worthy? Not in my definition.

But then again, I usually get the winners wrong anyway, and since movies like Shakespear In Love, Crash and Chicago can win best picture why not Avatar?



I found this on wiki:


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Since 1944, the Academy has restricted nominations to five Best Picture nominees per year. As of the 81st Academy Awards ceremony (for 200, there have been 464 films nominated for the Best Picture award. Throughout the past 81 years, AMPAS has presented a total of 81 Best Picture awards. Invariably, the Academy Awards for Best Picture and Best Director have been very closely linked throughout their history. Of the 81 films that have been awarded Best Picture, 59 have also been awarded Best Director.[1] Only three films have won Best Picture without their directors being nominated (though only one since the early 1930s): Wings (1927/2, Grand Hotel (1931/32), and Driving Miss Daisy (1989). The only two Best Director winners to win for films which did not receive a Best Picture nomination are likewise in the early years: Lewis Milestone (1927/2 and Frank Lloyd (1928/29).

However, beginning in 2010, The Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences will double the number of Best Picture nominees from five to ten. The expansion is a throwback to the Academy's early years in the 1930s and '40s, when anywhere between eight and 12 films were shortlisted (or longlisted). "Having 10 Best Picture nominees is going allow Academy voters to recognize and include some of the fantastic movies that often show up in the other Oscar categories but have been squeezed out of the race for the top prize," AMPAS President Sid Ganis said in a press conference. "I can't wait to see what that list of 10 looks like when the nominees are announced in February." .[1]




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I disagree with this, James.  I do agree that Inglorious Basterds was a much more impressive achievement in terms of coverage, editing, sound choices, and many of the other technical aspects of directing.  However, these impressive filmmaking choices, while great fun for film students like you and I, were in many cases showy and did not always serve the story as a whole.  Tarantino has always wanted to try unique things and new things and a big variety of things but he is not always concerned with how they will serve the creation of a cohesive film.  So, he tried a lot of interesting things, but often as not, they were..."interesting", rather than serving the storytelling.  In fact, in the end, we discovered that Basterds wasn't about anything at all...no character arc for anyone, just some vague themes of vengeance and good and evil.  That film has no soul.  Cameron stuck with his tried-and-true style, and it may not have given film types a bunch of exciting, unique shots to talk about, but it did connect with audiences to become the biggest film of all time.  More importantly, it was a film that offered Cameron's perspective on a lot of things that he feels deeply about.  So, should we celebrate innovation over the well-executed standard?  Only, in my opinion, if the innovation allows the film to connect more strongly with audiences...which Basterds did not, for me, over Avatar.

And, for the record, if one is to consider the bodies of work of the two...Tarantino is a legend, he's unique, he's an innovator, he's the reason I got into film as a young guy, but come on now...Cameron is the better storyteller.


I agree that Avatar was a much more cohesive and successful film than Inglourious Basterds. Not my preferred out the two but it's the award for Best Picture, not Favorite Picture so I think Avatar deserves to win that award. Inglourious Basterds connected more with me but Avatar is technically the more successful film. But when it comes to directing, I think Tarantino has a lot more personality and it shows in Inglourious Basterds. Avatar's direction felt more manipulative than anything. This is the best I can say in keeping the direction and overall film separate.


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Yeah, I can definitely see where you're coming from with that.  I guess I would argue that the personality that shines through in Cameron's films is his unrelenting, gleeful sense of boyish wonder.  I find that infectious.  Tarantino has the same thing, but it's a little more narrowed in on things that we can't all always relate to.  Still, Cameron can be a bit heavy-handed with his application of formula (that applies only to Titanic and Avatar) and I think it's definitely fair to feel manipulated.  

I suppose Tarantino gives the viewer a lot more credit in some sense, but to be frank, I think today's audiences have been schooled by Hollywood into a mindset which makes them undeserving of much credit.  

Again though, what sets Cameron apart from Tarantino for me is that he was telling a story about very specific themes and all of his directing choices reflected those themes.  I wouldn't say the same was true of Basterds.
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But that's what I'm saying about Cameron. Typically, the Academy would reward him, like they did with Titanic for nominating it for everything possible.


I hate to be a further debunker of your theory, Blonde but best screenplay was one of the few awards that Titanic wasn't nominated for. The academy has never recognized any of Cameron's scripts.


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'Inglorious Basterds' would be my choice from that. Definitely the best of the bunch. Not to goad Dec and the 'District 9' fans, but to see it take an Oscar when something similar in nature but far superior (IMHO) like 'RoboCop' never receiving such attention would be galling. I know that's not really relevant, but I'm shooting from the proverbial.

No offence Mr. Barton, but I just hope it's not 'Hurt Locker', 'cos that's reward for a very average film.

Well, at least another disappointment in 'Watchmen' wasn't nominated, stunning opening aside.

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No offence Mr. Barton, but I just hope it's not 'Hurt Locker', 'cos that's reward for a very average film.


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Best Picture
Avatar
Up
Up in the Air
The Blind Side
District 9
A Serious Man
Precious
An Education
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Again, another year and another poor showing from me at the cinema.  Only seen two in this list.  My vote goes to Avatar.


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Takeshi
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Has anyone seen A Serious Man?
Is it a chance?
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Quoted from Takeshi
Has anyone seen A Serious Man?
Is it a chance?


Screenplay maybe, it got very well received critically.


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