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I like to think I have a fairly strong stomache, but after seeing this 9 minute leaked clip I almost lost it. This is said to be the goriest movie ever made... and I can safely say that it is.
This movie will stink up the joint. Did anybody notice how the cute little baby pirahna all coiled up in its egg looked exactly like the poster did for Alien3?
One word for whoever filmed this: TRIPOD!
Down in the hole / Jesus tries to crack a smile / Beneath another shovel load
The footage sucks... and by footage, I mean the guy with the camera, not the film itself. The gore is actually better than I expected. A near perfect balance of realistic and over the top. The victims getting dragged out of the water look pretty grisly. I like the little bits of flesh floating in the water when the camera goes under. Eli Roth's death is awesome. The credits written in flesh is one of the most metal things I've seen in any movie.
This is said to be the goriest movie ever made... and I can safely say that it is.
Safely, you say? Dead Alive has held this title for eighteen years. I've yet to hear a single horror fan disagree. Judging from this clip, Piranha's got a long way to go.
I would not go so far as to suggest the majority of "gore film" enthusiasts have a genuine, clinical paraphillia, but since a rough eye-balling of the comments per topic indicate a statistically larger number of horror fans at SimplyScripts.com than in the general population (and certainly by genre revenue) would the indiginous population here at SS volunteer WTH it is about cinematic gore* that appeals to you? http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?
Nuts and bolts. The mental mechanics. Is it the color? Is it the relief? Why do you find yourself keep coming back for more? How does this genre produce such a loyal following? Who can explain the addictive qualities? Are ther any ex-gore enthusiasts that can explain WTH were you thinking THEN that you are now beyond? (Is there such a person?!) I figure cinema gore fanatics should have little aversion towards self dissection, unless that is actually part of the interest! Ha! The more horrific the detail the better. Dig away. Bleed a little for me.
FWIW, long ago I worked over a decade in the emergency room of a major metropolitan hospital and have seen literally everything that survived that far. I personally possess no entertainment value in the genre but wholly respect your legal rights. No judgement or castigation from me. Frankly I'm most interested in figuring out a way to apply the addictive qualities of gore and horror to other genres. I suspect it isn't simple.
Thank you.
* I really want to limit this inquiry to cinema gore. Not really interested in attraction to actual gore experiences or interests, although a "contrast/comparison to" is/may be useful. TY!
I expect Richard Dreyfuss to kill himself, much like David Carradine did.... in shame.
[insert apologies]
LOL! I imagine you can't really do this sorta stuff all by yourself, so I think his buddies that realized "SH!T Old dude is dead!" then split are pretty sh!tty buddies.
Yeah, I was wondering how long Dreyfuss' cameo would last and how much was he getting paid for it. Pfft. Hollywood ho.
(See! I told you! Rub a little $$ on it and it makes your guilt go away! I ain't jerkin' ya, Phil.)
While Screenrider does not necessarily speak for all of us, Don does try to run a "clean" house.
Pretty much anything goes with the written word in your own scripts -- but on the main boards, excessive profanity is frowned upon, and nudity in most forms -- save for the odd Tanuki -- is not tolerated.
Big of you to delete it yourself. No harm, no foul.
I've seen Dead-Alive, and besides the lawn mower scene I don't think it was anything special. The filmakers used more fake blood for this movie.
~Zack~
I highly doubt more fake blood was used. Dead Alive, as silly as it is, is a matter of sheer gallons, not to mention virtually every part of the body is dismembered in its own special little gag. Whatever. Tokyo Gore Police? Inside? I highly doubt an R-rated studio film is gonna take the prize.
I would not go so far as to suggest the majority of "gore film" enthusiasts have a genuine, clinical paraphillia, but since a rough eye-balling of the comments per topic indicate a statistically larger number of horror fans at SimplyScripts.com than in the general population (and certainly by genre revenue) would the indiginous population here at SS volunteer WTH it is about cinematic gore* that appeals to you? http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?
Nuts and bolts. The mental mechanics. Is it the color? Is it the relief? Why do you find yourself keep coming back for more? How does this genre produce such a loyal following? Who can explain the addictive qualities? Are ther any ex-gore enthusiasts that can explain WTH were you thinking THEN that you are now beyond? (Is there such a person?!) I figure cinema gore fanatics should have little aversion towards self dissection, unless that is actually part of the interest! Ha! The more horrific the detail the better. Dig away. Bleed a little for me.
FWIW, long ago I worked over a decade in the emergency room of a major metropolitan hospital and have seen literally everything that survived that far. I personally possess no entertainment value in the genre but wholly respect your legal rights. No judgement or castigation from me. Frankly I'm most interested in figuring out a way to apply the addictive qualities of gore and horror to other genres. I suspect it isn't simple.
Thank you.
* I really want to limit this inquiry to cinema gore. Not really interested in attraction to actual gore experiences or interests, although a "contrast/comparison to" is/may be useful. TY!
I've heard everyone from David Cronenberg to Eli Roth to Quentin Tarantino to Chris Alexander (Fangoria editor) try to explain moviegoers' fascination with violence/gore. While there's good points to be found in all of their testimonies, I think everyone either overanalyzes the subject or ends up missing something. Whatever the case may be, I don't think they ever get through to the people who are opposed to it. So I guess the simplest answer would be some people "get it" and some people don't. But a little too much of a generalization for me but I think it's close enough to the truth.
I think there's way too many different kinds of horror movies to really give a simple explanation though. Evil Dead and Re-Animator are nothing like Cannibal Holocaust or Last House on the Left which in turn are nothing like Silence of the Lambs or The Shining. Further more, none of those films are anything like Martyrs or Antichrist. Technically, they're all horror movies but you just can't lump them together in a conversation like this.
In the case of Piranha 3D, I think it just looks fun. Wouldn't be so fun if it were real though, right? I suppose you would have the credibility to say that, having worked in an E.R. At the same time, my aunt has been a nurse for as long as I can remember and once mentioned a surgeon yelling "catch!" to one of his assistants as he pretended to throw an organ he'd just removed from a sedated patient.
In the case of Piranha 3D, I think it just looks fun. Wouldn't be so fun if it were real though, right? Different strokes...
Oh, exactly! (BTW I'm 65 PDF pages into "Complete". It's good. Probably be an hour before I finish it.) Oh yeah. Horror is chock full O tropes. Can you describe your personal interest toward gore films? A gritty, bloody self expose analysis of "Get it"? Is it fine entertainment as long as it's (respectfully) stupid/absurd, but if it starts smacking of a legit snuff film then it's not cool at all? How far is too far? When do ticket and DVD sales plummet?
Ha ha. Good stuff. The propellor scalping the girl was a good one. As was the chick who came apart when they were carrying her.
This seemed very disjointed though. I'm assuming this was just a teaser scene.
That was probably an unofficial shot of Mr. Dreyfess vacationing on his boat. Seriously, what the hell is he doing in this???
I have no hopes for this in terms of story. We may have just seen the best part. Can't wait to read reviews. There might be people vomiting in the theater.
This movie has a pretty good cast, Christopher lloyed, Richard Dreyfus, ving rames, Elizabeth shue, plus it looks like it has some sweet gore, i doubt its the goriest movie ever made, or even close, but it still looks fuckin' awesome!
Oh, exactly! (BTW I'm 65 PDF pages into "Complete". It's good. Probably be an hour before I finish it.) Oh yeah. Horror is chock full O tropes. Can you describe your personal interest toward gore films? A gritty, bloody self expose analysis of "Get it"? Is it fine entertainment as long as it's (respectfully) stupid/absurd, but if it starts smacking of a legit snuff film then it's not cool at all? How far is too far? When do ticket and DVD sales plummet?
I should note I make a distinction between gore films and horror films in general. I wouldn't consider Hellraiser a gore film, for example. It's a gory film but there's a lot more going on and the gore is not the focus.
My favorite gore films (e.g. Re-Animator, Evil Dead, Peter Jackson's first three films) tend to be fun, humorous and clever.
Inside, on the other hand, is very stark and misanthropic but has a great story. Ichi the Killer doesn't have a particularly discernible story but the characters are absolutely fascinating and watching them interact is equally so.
Piranha 3D might be missing a few of these things but it certainly looks fun and doesn't seem to take itself too seriously. That's good enough for me.
That said, I don't think gore films have to be absurd or over the top. They can be gritty and nasty too. They just need to offer something in addition to the gore.
I honestly can't answer your last question. The Saw films have paper thin characters, nebulous plots, no sense of fun whatsoever and increasingly uninspired set pieces. I hate the term "torture porn" but those films fit the description even more than the Hostel films do... and yet, it's the most successful horror franchise in history.
This movie has a pretty good cast, Christopher lloyed, Richard Dreyfus, ving rames, Elizabeth shue, plus it looks like it has some sweet gore, i doubt its the goriest movie ever made, or even close, but it still looks fuckin' awesome!
Do you think they'll find a closet big enough for the four of them?
Jeff, Sorry looks like you missed the party. Link is down. You'd a loved it. Naked bitches. people falling apart. Chick getting scalped. I could go on...
Here's an interview with director Alexandre Aja (Haute tension/The Hills Have Eyes/Mirrors) from Comic-Con - it appears Richard Dreyfuss is actually playing the same character he played in Jaws:
Director Alex Aja makes no bones about where his sympathy lies in PIRANHA 3D. With the fishes, of course. "The Spring Breakers are the mass of raw meat," Aja tells press. "We have them trying to survive that situation. Somehow I have the feeling that, maybe not in the U.S. but in Europe, the movie will be perceived more on the piranha side."
Jerry O'Connell provides comic relief in the movie as the character you love to hate, a thinly-veiled take on Girls Gone Wild's Joe Francise. "Jerry in the movie is the human piranha," says Aja. "He is like that other kind of predator on spring break. In the water you have piranhas and above you have Jerry's character. His last line is one of the best. He's spitting blood and he's saying, 'Wet t-shirts, wet t-shirts.'"
The footage aired at Comic-Con (and, ahem, possibly on a web site or two) was heavy on the gore and gratuitous nudity. Aja promises he's got plenty more where that came from. "What you saw is a small part of the movie. There is much more in that location."
If there is one human in the movie Aja showed some respect for, it was Richard Dreyfuss, who returns almost 25 years later to the character he made famous in JAWS, Matt Hooper. "He survived the shark and this time the piranha won't let him go," says an enthusiastic Aja. "Richard really understood the idea, that we didn't want him to come and play something else, that he was Matt Hooper and he was coming to play Matt Hooper. He was so happy. It's a great way to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Jaws. We were very shy to ask him about Jaws, but he was giving up everything about the experience. He came for two days and it was an amazing two days."
Despite the 29 year lag between PIRANHA movies, the franchise has an intriguing directorial history with Joe Dante directing the first and none other than king of the world himself, James Cameron, taking the reigns on the sequel. We asked Aja whether he had thoughts for murderous fish movies. "You know, this is PIRANHA," says Aja. "They can come back and there are many, many possibilities for other stories. I think they will definitely have some other PIRANHA movies, but we are talking about different stories and nothing is set yet. If we think about a great storyline that can do a real movie and stand on its own, then yes, I would definitely be involved."
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