It'll be interesting to see how that lawsuit against Gawker goes. They'll probably just settle without setting any of those awkward precedents that would get people worried.

You would think Tarantino would send out marked versions of his new scripts so he could tell who leaked it, or at least have a much better idea.

It's all a bit of a shame. I would have liked to see Tim Roth in a Tarantino movie again. Ho hum.  

Quoted from SteveUK I think the difference in this case is that Tarantino was referring to when his shooting scripts leak for people to read and discuss, and not a first draft that wasn't intended for public consumption.

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Hahah of course you are right, Penoyer. Tarantino's intellectual property was stolen and distributed against his will. If one holds intellectual property rights to be valid and constraining, it would be wrong to read the script. I think what you've pointed out, which is particularly fascinating, is the heavy tendency to see this question in terms of monetary value -- the argument "Reading that script represents money that the writer is losing" can't hold in this case, and so the question of intellectual property theft doesn't seem to appear so quickly.

I'm on the record as an advocate of piracy but personally I wouldn't read the Tarantino script in this situation.

At the end of the day, no money damages means the lawsuit probably won't go anywhere.

Did a director or producer kill the project because the script was leaked? No.

Did an actor drop out? No.

Are fans clamoring that the script sucks? No.

QT killed it himself.

He may be right about whether his IP was stolen, but the only one costing him money is himself, and I'm assuming he's not suing himself.

hey, im a music pirate myself...I download music at times.....  I got blasted for admitting so.... so I found this topic rather interesting that writers who are so concerned with protecting their own work... have no problem scrambling to read QT's material that was leaked to the public without permission

Piracy helps artists make money. Even this is ALL GOOD for Tarantino. In fact, I'm not surprised he is suing. Milk the headlines for as long as you can is the name of the game.

I'm interested to see how this plays out. After Tarantino found out the script had been passed around Hollywood and announced he would be publishing it instead of filming it, is the script now being uploaded online any different to someone sharing the manuscript of a yet-to-be-published novel?

It wouldn't surprise me if he ended up dropping the lawsuit in the end - I get the feeling he's just doing it to make a point.

Quoted from DustinBowcot Piracy helps artists make money.

I agree with you.. to a certain extent.

Quoted from SteveUK I'm interested to see how this plays out. After Tarantino found out the script had been passed around Hollywood and announced he would be publishing it instead of filming it, is the script now being uploaded online any different to someone sharing the manuscript of a yet-to-be-published novel? It wouldn't surprise me if he ended up dropping the lawsuit in the end - I get the feeling he's just doing it to make a point.

true, but its not like Tarantino needs help to get people into the Theater to see his movies.

if I saw 1 movie a year... it'd be Tarantino's. even if Death Proof and Jackie Brown were meh... they still had 3 or 4 WOW moments.

Quoted from Penoyer79 I agree with you.. to a certain extent.

Yeah of course to a certain extent... but I bet it makes them a lot more money than they claim to be 'losing'. All business is about speculation. All drug dealers know, if you give out some free shit to the local kids you're going to get their business. That initial 'loss' turns into a massive profit.

Certain music artists have made their name through piracy... and doubtless certain films have too.

In fact, I believe that the only time piracy can actually hurt profits is if the film isn't very good. If you have a good product, the piracy is a good thing as it becomes free advertising. Not everybody likes pirates, most don't. Most are happy to pay... and they do.

I actually quite liked Jackie Brown. I think I was unfair of my earlier criticism of Tarantino. I have enjoyed all of his films... and would definitely watch one of his over anyone else's in Hollywood. I'd still pick Brit flicks over Tarantino though.

Jackie Brown?  Great movie.  Gets a lot of flack from people -- like Death Proof.  I dig it.


--Steve

Looks like QT is back in on Hateful 8.  http://theweek.com/article/ind.....-wasnt-going-to-make

Quoted from Guest Jackie Brown?  Great movie.  Gets a lot of flack from people -- like Death Proof.  I dig it. --Steve

I like Death Proof as well. Lot of people complain about it and QT say himself its his weakest film.
the problem with Death Proof is he lost his audience when he shock-killed the entire first group of girls...
He spent the first hour of the movie investing everyone in those characters and then he kills them all and
wants us to invest in an entire second group of girls who frankly aren't as likable and interesting  
he should have stayed with the first group the entire movie and focused on them VS Stuntman Mike

As far as Jackie Brown - I like it when I saw... but the movie is impossible to get through the 2nd time around
just not his most interesting movie.

I thought Death Proof was a horrible movie. Just everything about it was bad. Planet Terror was only slightly better. The best thing about that Grindhouse movie were the fake trailers. That movie rightfully flopped so bad.

Jackie Brown was okay at best. Like Penoyer says, there is just nothing that interesting about the movie. It's far too long for such a simple story.

His two worst movie, IMO.

Really interested to see this one on screen.

I thought the script was pretty decent. Although the first 40 pages (before they got to the cabin) were painfully dull... seriously hope he trims that down so that only one chapter is in the carriage, versus two.

But once they got to the cabin, I dug it.

Looking forward to see what changes he makes as well from the leaked draft.

I disagree I thought the whole thing was good until a major character was shot and killed.

That's when I stopped reading the script to avoid huge spoilers.