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I have the book. I've only read the first short so far. What do you want to know? I don't want to spoil your present.  


Cool. Just wanted to know if it's a purely horror short collection or a mish-mash of his recent types of work (drama/horror/sci-fi,etc)

Thanks!
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I hesitate to answer this since it is your present...

I love pretty much all of his work regardless of genre. No matter what he writes, his strength to me is always character so he didn't disappoint me. I would however call the first one in this book more of a drama. The other ones could be different though.


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This won't really be a review because I suck at those, but if someone else have read Full Dark, No Stars I would love to hear your thoughts on it.

SPOILERS!!!!!! for those who haven't read it yet and are planning to.

This book consists of 4 novellas.

1922 When Wilfred and his wife disagree on the sale of land willed to her by her father, it sets in motion a gruesome sequence of events that leads to madness�and murder.
Big Driver Tess, a mystery writer, takes a shortcut home, only to run into a nightmare more terrifying than her stories.
Fair Extension In this darkly funny tale, cancer patient Dave Streeter decides to make a deal with the devil, but as always, there is a price to pay.
A Good Marriage Darcy learns more about her husband of 20 years than she would have liked to know when she stumbles across a mysterious box in their garage.

I love Stephen King so I liked this book. However, there were two of these I had a bit of a problem with.  Big Driver and Fair Extension. Why? In Big Driver, Tess is raped and left for dead by a serial rapist/killer. She decides to get revenge and to kill the guy.  So what's the problem? Well, she also ends up killing his brother and mother and she gets away with it. I had a problem with her killing 3 people and nothing happens to her for doing so.  

In Fair Extension, Dave Streeter is a cancer patient with not much time left. He makes a deal with the devil to get 15 more years to live. The price for that is that someone else he knows will have to suffer instead. He choses his best friend whom he secretly hates. Everything starts go go down hill for his "friend". His wife dies of cancer, successful son becomes a cripple and so on and so on. What didn't work for me was our portage, Dave, enjoyed all the tragedy. And just as with the other story, he didn't have to suffer at all for this wrong doing.

Anyway, if you read these stories, I'l love to hear your thoughts on the morals of them.


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Pia, my interpretation of "Fair Extension" was that Dave was always a twisted guy.  He made the deal with the devil, not God.  That tells us that he was already somewhat a bad seed.  He seemingly was going to be in hell when he died anyways, thus the deal was able to be made.  Dave, I believe, was secretly always a prick shank and hated his friends success.  He resented him, as the age old tales tell us not to envy thy neighbor's possessions and well being, for all he had in his life.  

I believe King wrote this story, however subtle it may or may not be, to be grounded in religion to an extent.
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Hmmm... I didn't really get that at all from this, but maybe you looked at it on a deeper level!  

I just felt very disatisfied at the end of those two stories. Big Driver less so than A Good Marriage. At least that one Tess felt remorse.

Btw, it says at the end of the book that he got the idea for A Good Marriage that he got the idea from Dennis Rader the serial killer.  


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Hmmm... I didn't really get that at all from this, but maybe you looked at it on a deeper level!  

I just felt very disatisfied at the end of those two stories. Big Driver less so than A Good Marriage. At least that one Tess felt remorse.

Btw, it says at the end of the book that he got the idea for A Good Marriage that he got the idea from Dennis Rader the serial killer.  


Don't take it as golden.  I don't know if that's what he was going for but that's what I kind of got from the story.  

Side note:  Denis Rader lived like 3 hours drive from my house.  Nutty.  And whatever you do, don't watch Kane Hodder's BTK flick.  If you want a laugh, sure.  Go ahead.  But if you want facts and hard evidence, stay away.  Stay far, far away.  The movie is so funny at times -- Clueless, really.  They have Kansas City, the city limit sign, amidst rolling canyons in the back ground.  They have downtown Wichita looking like Time Square.  They have palm trees all over the place too. It's crazy funny how clueless some of these set directors and directors of photography really are.
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Wow!

Well, I've noticed over the years that whatever subject you know something about, it's always totally wrong in movies and more often than not even in the news.
Btw, do you remember Danny Rollings and the Gainesville student murders? That was in my town! Right when that was going on I got locked out of the house one night in my underwear! I was scared to death I might run into him!!  
I often thought of writing a script about that, but I don't think this town is ready even though it's been 21 years.


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Having not read the stories (but I didn't mind), I would guess that the horror will be that some crimes go unpunished like unsolved cases. It's a f uped world.  
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Finally finished book 4 of The Dark Tower series, Wizard and Glass.

My reading of it was interrupted for a couple of months as I had to take it back to the library - someone had it on hold.
Got it back the other week and picked up at page 445!!!

Three more to go!!   An awesome read - the sheer imagery and epic detail. Even though Wizard is mostly Roland telling the story of his first love, Susan Delgado - and very well told - its still gripping.

If they do a mini-series of this(which I hear is in the works), they will have to give at least 2 hours for each of the seven books to faithfully do justice by it.



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Ok, i got to the sixth book of the DT series - 'Song of Susannah'.

The fifth book, 'Woves of the Calla' was awesome, the best of the long tale yet. But this new one? sigh... BORING!!  Its shorter than the others but i skipped to the end and it was still tedious.

Obviously the final book, 'The Dark Tower' will tie it all up but it isn't in any library here on the Coast, and I ain't buying the fucker, so i will just walk away, very disappointed!!



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Am reading Kingy's latest: 11.22.63.

It's about a guy who goes back in time to try and stop JFK's murder.

Won't give too much away but he's created some cool time travel rules, and it reads well. As usual, he mixes in some people from his other stories, including a great mention of Derry town from It.

Was eerie reading the time travel logistics as I grappled with the same stuff in my script SENT...



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I remember in King's old books he always used to refer to the Dallas police. I think back in the 70s he related them to the govt bad guys. I saw an interview with him the other day, and surprisingly he believes JFK was shot by the lone gunmen, Oswald. I bet he felt different back in the day, but modern evidence is pretty convincing. Been a while since I read one of his, but maybe I'll get this for Christmas!
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I'm on page 200 of 11/22/63. I love it!! I'm a huge King fan. I would even say that he might be my all time favorite author.

So far this book is awesome. The way he paints the 50s feel so real. I can almost feel and smell it. There was a lot of smoking back then.

Is anyone going to watch Bag of Bones in December? One of my favorites of his.


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1922 When Wilfred and his wife disagree on the sale of land willed to her by her father, it sets in motion a gruesome sequence of events that leads to madness�and murder.
Big Driver Tess, a mystery writer, takes a shortcut home, only to run into a nightmare more terrifying than her stories.
Fair Extension In this darkly funny tale, cancer patient Dave Streeter decides to make a deal with the devil, but as always, there is a price to pay.
A Good Marriage Darcy learns more about her husband of 20 years than she would have liked to know when she stumbles across a mysterious box in their garage.

Anyway, if you read these stories, I'l love to hear your thoughts on the morals of them.


SPOILERS

Although I love all of King's work, I never felt the connection with these stories as I have had with others. My favourite was A Good Marriage - based on the slow reveal of her husband's "hobby" and what she would do with the information.

1992 was pretty good - I enjoyed the opening moments.

I totally agree with your assessment of Big Driver and Fair Extension. I felt remorse for Tess, but I never connected with the protagonist in Fair Extension.

Looking forward to 11/22/63 - that is on this year's Christmas list.

Sigh - I can't believe it's been a year since I last posted on this thread. What a quick year.

Stew


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I'm on page 200 of 11/22/63. I love it!! I'm a huge King fan. I would even say that he might be my all time favorite author.

So far this book is awesome. The way he paints the 50s feel so real. I can almost feel and smell it. There was a lot of smoking back then.

Is anyone going to watch Bag of Bones in December? One of my favorites of his.


Kinda stopped reading him after he burned my wallet with Pet Semetery.
But, I have seen the trailer for Bag of Bones and it does look like a fine show.

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