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The boy who could fly
Posted: May 5th, 2006, 8:48am Report to Moderator
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I learned something from the last one week writing exercise, and that is, I am not very good at writing comedy, so I was wondering and hoping if there is some who could help me with it.  I know a lot of comedy is about timing and the actors, but I wanna know how to write more than shit and fart humour.  I am not what you call a very funny person, the laughs I usually get is when I say or do something stupid, so like people laugh at me not with me.  I would really love to get better at this, I would like to beable to add humour to my scripts, even if it's not a comedy, but at least to beable to put a funny scene in once in a while that doesn't incolve bodily fluids.  So if someone would like to help me I would really love it, I don't know what I could do in return, but I would do my damndest.


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You could try reading a few Comedy Scripts.  Mike has some good ones and I just put one up.


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The boy who could fly
Posted: May 5th, 2006, 9:33am Report to Moderator
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I have read some, and mike is funny, but I don't wanna copy, I kinda wanna know if there is a way in which you write it, like a certian style, I know this is hard to explain...LOL, I kinda wanna know the techniques, stuff like that.  I wish I could word it better


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One thing you could do if you are as not funny as you say you are, would be to carry around a little pocket notebook.  When you hear soemthign funny, write it down.    We hear a lot of funny things in a day, and eventually you would find something that is both funny and works in your script.

Another thing you could do is read a comedy dcript, find what makes you laugh, and really think about it.  Why did it make you laugh?  Take the answer to that question and use it to form a joke in your own script.

You could also combine the two.  Write a funny thing you heard down in the notebook, ask yourself why it was funny, and use the answer to the question in your script.

Lots of Comedy comes from a characters personality, and how a character relates with another character.  You could create a "Game" (improv term) for charcters, which basically means that they always do something, and repitition tends to be funny. Perhaps have one character always mess up old sayings, that becomes his game.  Another character could always be finding things that another character lost, then having to return them, this could be their game.


Edit: Another example of a "game" would be in my scripts "The Search for the Great American Jeackelope" the Character Patch is always eating while he drives the motorcycle.  It becomes a game and the audience is wondering "What will he eat next?" and it is funny.  It even ended up helping the script along.

Another example of a "Game" would be in mikes script "The Hero of Her Heart" there is a charcter that keeps making sexual inuendos about juggling his balls without realizing that he is making them.  This is funny.



does any of this help?


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The boy who could fly
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Thanks Higgs, that does help, my problem is that just because I find it funny will others.  Here's an example.

the other day I was looking through the paper and I came across the obituaries and I saw the d.o.b of one of the people and it was like 1908, and I was like this guy is really old, so I read the collum and it said John Smith(not his real name) died suddenly at the age of98, and I was like SUDDENLY, who dies suddenly at 98 at, it's a miricle he lived that long.  Now I felt kinda bad laughing at this cause I'm sure he was a good man with lots of kids, and grand kids, and great grand kids, and great great grand kids, hell he probably voted for Lincon, but I laughed and I felt bad.

another example. If you happened to read my short "The wrong guy", there is a story in there about a guy who hooks up with a tranny.  Now that was a true story of this older guy that I worked with.  He told it to me and I laughed so hard.  he was only a kid at the time, like 16, and he didn't kill it, but still I thought it was funny so I put it in the script, and that seemed to be the part that people thought was the most funny, so I guess what you say is true, "write down what you hear is funny"

but most of what I am in contact with is toilet humour considering my age group and the age of the people I hang around, like some of the stuff I hear and say makes the aristocrats joke seem like an episode of the Andy Griffith show, and I'm talking about the most vile disgusting things you have ever EVER heard.

that game idea seems like a good idea, I think I will try that.  anyways thanks again.

PS:  how was your 16 BD party, I remember mine(wasn't too long ago), can't really said what I did or I would be banned from this site, but I don't do any of that stuff anymore, well atleast most of it, one of them I do on a daily basis, but it wasn't a bad thing.  Anywasy, I hope it was fun.


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When I write comedy, I basically write what I believe to be funny, what I would laugh at if I were reading it for the first time or watching it on tv or in a theater.  To me, it's just like anything else. People are going to think it's funny, and others are going to think it's dumb.

Basically, just realize that no matter what you write, there are always going to be people who don't like it, who don't "get it".

In your first post you said something about people laughing at you, and not with you.  Use it!  If you can create some goofball character that the other characters in your script laugh at, the audience will laugh with you.  Jeez that almost doesn't make any sense at all.  It basically boils down to Higgs' comment on Johnny Juggler.  He had no idea what he was saying, the other characters were laughing at him, and in turn he was probably the most popular character in the script.

The 98 year old man?  Could be funny, but that would take some witty dialogue.

If you need any help with anything, I'd be glad to assist.


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The boy who could fly
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Thanks Mike, I would love assistance.  Like things I have seen that are funny are like, there was this lady I saw taking her dog for a walk and she had a maxie pad taped to it.  I one time saw this old couple(like in their 80's) pull into a parking lot in like an oldsmobile or somehting(an old person's car basically) and EMENEM was blasting from the radio.  Then there are personal things that have happened to me that were funny, not at the time, but now that I look back they were, like the time in 3rd grade I pulled a "there's something about mary" and got myself caught in my zipper and my teacher had to get me out, then there was another time when I was 13, and I thought I was alone, and I was doing what all teenage boys do and my mom walked in on me.  Then there was the time I lost my virginity(now that was funny, not then, but now)

should I put things like that in the script, like true stories, just make them larger than life, or more real so that people would identify more with it.  anyways, i would like to try and write a comedy short and any help would be appriciated.


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Definitely.  It is always better to write what you know.  Now this is just me talking, but if I saw a dog walking along with a maxipad taped to it, I'd laugh my ass off.  Same goes with the old people in the car.  The trick is to tool around with it.  Example...

Old people and, for lack of a better term, "pimps" usually drive their cars in such a fashion that you cannot see them, at least sterotypically. You know, the old lady who can't see over the steering wheel, and the guy who's got the seat so far reclined he may as well be laying down?  I' duse that.

Have this car that appears to have no driver pull up, and old people get out.  If you wanna be really ridiculous they could be wearing hip-hop clothes.  It just depends on what you're in the mood to write, how goofy you're feeling.

I'd be glad to help with your short, and I'll only ask that you see one of my scripts into the "RECOMMEND" pile.  


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Quoted from Shelton
Definitely.
I'd be glad to help with your short, and I'll only ask that you see one of my scripts into the "RECOMMEND" pile.  


If you give me permission to show them one of your scripts I would be sooooooo willing to do that, I told them about this site and they said it was cool as long as the script wasn't optioned.  There are a few scripts here that I want to show them, but first I wanna get the writers permision.(so far all I read is crap, 3 from the US, 1 from canada which was mostly french , but ya, let me know which one you like the most  thanks again.


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Comedy is about timing. You can write a funny line for a character but if the set up ain't right it won't read funny. It has to read funny otherwise ot won't be funny in a possible movie if it's made.

You can start with a premise for a story you would like to tell and establish funny situations with characters who have funny lines but you can also add stuff wich you can draw from your experience too..

The world is your oyster..
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Haha, whatever you do, don't come to me for comedy. According to my Scary Movie 5 script, I completely butchered the genre...

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It is all about dick and fart jokes my friend. I'm a hard person to make laugh so when I watch the pg sitcoms shoved down our throats every week I feel like I've been slapped and someone said, "You don't deserve real comedy"

I watch a lot of comedy, well stand up but when translated into another medium you get something that is funny.

Most shows use a comedian and have moments where you laugh but for the most part, it's a drama... Friends was a drama with a tiny bit of comedy in my opinion which isn't bad but don't call yourself a sitcom when you can't even make me laugh.

Like Mike, I just write what I think is funny and I really do not care what people think about it. I care about what they think regarding the story but if the comedy doesn't work oh well.

Write something about a really dumb situation, In Don We Trust my contribution to the SS Script thing had some scenes that may or may not be funny but when I wrote it, I thought they were funny. If it worked great, if not maybe next time.

You have to ask yourself if you want to write comedy, if the answer is yes give it a try. I am not funny but I have my moments.


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There are two ways to write comedy.
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Oh, and what's the other way, Alan?

Before you start writing a comedy script, Jordan, just remember to have the story down.  I've seen too many scripts here where the writer just started writing a slew of jokes without any cohesion.  The story will give you direction and the jokes will pop up from there.

Strong characters are also important...


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The boy who could fly
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Thanks Wes and Phil, your comments are helping me, I wanna try something that I'm not so great at to see if I can make myself a stronger writer.  I think comedy is important even if you're writting a drama or a horror, it doesn't always hurt to have a funny moment or a funny character in it.  thanks again.


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