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Perhaps no other superhero-cum-film version has had a more storied past than "Superman Returns."  From budget problems, to mis-conceptions, to robotic costumes, to giant spiders, this franchise has seen it all come and go throughout the last twenty years.  The fact that this newest filmed version of the Man of Steel turned out to be even moderately good is somewhat of a miracle.  In fact, it is a miracle that "Returns" turned out being very, very, very good... but not great.

Superman has been missing for five years... and so has Clark Kent... but more on that later.  Anyhoo, an interesting point is brought up in this new sequel: what if a world that had gotten used to having a super man always save the day one day lacked its hero?  And what if this same hero dissapeared not for a day, but five whole years?  Many would give up hope.

And that is exactly what intrepid reporter Lois Lane (Kate Bosworth) has done.  In fact, a Pultizer-winning article she writes even suggests that the world is better off without him.  She is so fine without him, that she even gets married (to ex-X-Man James Mardsen) and has a kid.  Of course, as the title implies, Superman (Brandon Routh) does indeed return.  In fact, he shows up at just the right moment, as notorious villian Lex Luthor (the oh-so-excellent Kevin Spacey) is back with a brand new scheme to create death, destruction, and revenue.

Right off the bat, kudos has to go to the casting decisions in this one.  While Routh does a very good job at keeping the film together as the title character, the real star here is Spacey.  Channeling part Gene Hackman and part, well... Kevin Spacey, this Luthor is funny when he has to be and an absolute danger when he needs to be.  The biggest surprise, though, goes to Bosworth.  I was extremely skeptical at the idea of her filling in for Margot Kidder.  Fortunately (or unfortunately as some may and will say), Kate does her own thing and creates a character that is more like the Fleischer cartoon version of Lane than the Kidder Lane.  Either way, the important part is that I found her believable, and she worked for me.

Surprisingly, the action in this one is sparse.  In fact, I would say this is more of an important character study than a Summer action epic.  However, what scenes of destruction are shown are quite well done and handeled ably by "X-Men" director and 20th Century Fox enemy Bryan Singer.  An early scene (that is shown prominently in the trailers) of Supes rescuing a plummeting, powerless jet is especially incredible and it ends with a very cool scene that shows us all: Superman is back and better than ever.

Unfortunately, all is not so well.  My biggest gripe (and I know some will just brush this problem off based solely on the fact that Superman is a comic book character) is that only one person (and not the person you would expect) makes the connection between mild-mannered reporter Clark Kent and Superman.  Both where gone for the same amount of time and both dissapear completely when the other is around.  It's not so much that I have a problem with the logic here, it's just that I think an interesting plot could have been made out of the fact that more and more people are able to figure it all out.

My other problem is with the sort of uneven nature of the film.  At times, the movie hits its own stride, and it feels wonderful and it all clicks.  At other parts, it feels less like an homage to Richard Donner's earlier work and more of a direct rip-off.  Not only are certain scenes recycled completely, but so is some of the dialogue.  There is a fine line between homage and hack-job, and Singer comes very close to crossing it a few too many times for comfort.

However, this work wonders in one respect, and that is the score.  John Williams' classic theme(s) are used throughout this 2006 outing to great effect, and I am very happy that they decided to keep it, especially during the highly nostalogic opening credits.

When it comes down to it, "Superman Returns" is a very solid effort.  However, I get the feeling that, like Sam Raimi's "Spider-Man," the inevitable sequel is where this one will really take off.  As it stands now, I would rate this higher than the first "Spider-Man," but I still find it inferior to any of my top 3 comic book adaptations: "Hellboy," "Spider-Man 2," and, the trifacto, last year's "Batman Begins."  Still, though, bring the kids and try and snag one of the IMAX screenings.  Two and a half hours will have never seemed so fast.

Oh, yeah, one more thing: what the fuck was Kumar doing in this?

*** out of ****

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I saw this at ten last night. There were 2 theaters, but the second one wasn't even half-way filled up. But there were the dedicated fanboys, dedicated girlfriends, and me. First off, I agree with Syco. There were times when Returns was basking in its parallelism to the original film that it got quite irritating. And secondly, and this annoyed me the most, the ending was so completely set up for a sequel that I didn't feel that the issue brought up in the end was resolved. And it was because of Singer's conceptual sequel, that most of the film was exposition. Not only did we have prologue-like titles in the beginning, but all the characters had to re-explain Superman's stats, explain again where he was, Lois's relationship, yada yada yada. I mean, I know it was needed. Not everybody who's going to see this knows the Superman timeline and mythology but because I did, I felt it was really slow in some parts. Although, I'd be a whole lot more annoyed if Bryan Singer couldn't pull off a great sequel. And, once that plane entered the picture it was great.

I'm being overly picky and I bet once I see it again, I'll like it better, but that's the risk they take when they try to reintroduce a superhero that's been a part of our culture since the '30s. You can't please all the Superman fans.

And I'd just like to say that I fell in love with Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane. In the discussion thread, my exact words were "I can't even buy her as a brunette..." but I give her props for reinventing Lois Lane into something new and original. I'm a fan of Smallville and I thought that show had the perfect Lois, but Kate Bosworth's possessed something greater, yet still having most of the personality of the Lois Lane we all know and love.

Brandon Routh was better than I thought he'd be. There was only one line I thought sounded a little stale but he was awesome every time else. I felt that he had a great connection to Christopher Reeve's Superman while putting something new on screen. He's just like the Superman we've known (Truth, Justice, and the American Way) but you can see more of the human side to him too.

And there's nothing to be said about Kevin Spacey. He's just as great as Lex Luthor as I thought he would be.

As for the obvious "disguise" that Syco was complaining about -- I don't lose too much sleep over it. That has always been his disguise -- no one is ever going to figure it out, or really believe Clark is Superman, because not that many people pay attention to Clark Kent. I agree it's ludicrous that his glasses would disguise him, but that's been the basis of his double identity in all the comic books. No writer is ever going to have Superman come up with a more clever disguise for him.

I think I like this better than Spider-man 2, just because I have a childhood love of Superman that I didn't have for Spider-man. And I really can't compare it to Batman Begins because Batman had a completely different aesthetic feel to it. For me, Superman has always been and will always be the superhero I've always loved and can't be compared to other films because I'm naturally biased.

So, in short, while Superman came up short in some ways, I really liked it and want to see it again soon.

*** 1/2 out of ****
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I really emjoyed this movie. I didn't have too many expectations, as I'm a loyal fan of the previous Superman films, but I was pleasantly surprised.

The actor who played Superman did an amazing job. I had goosepimples a couple of times when he spoke, because he really sounded like Christopher Reeve. What an amazing performance by him.

Loved Kevin Spacey, he did a great job. Hated the woman who played his stupid partner in crime and also didn't warm to the actress who played Lois Lane, at all. Not only did I find her acting boring, but an insult to the way I expected her character to be played. Margot Kidder nailed it and unfortunately, I couldn't shake off my distate to the new gal.

Overall, a good movie, worth seeing. In fact, stay to the end, you just have to wait for the dedication to Christopher Reeve. I waited especially to see this.

Good job!

PS - I couldn't get used to seeing Kumar on the screen either. I was just waiting for him to say White Castle just once, lol!


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Quoted from Andy Petrou
...stay to the end, you just have to wait for the dedication to Christopher Reeves.


Andy, I love you but …

Christopher Reeve
Made us believe
A man could fly like a plane
He had an ‘s’
Upon his chest
But not in his last name.

Sorry, Andy. You can slap me if you want.

(I loved Christopher Reeve.)


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Oh man! I missed the Christopher Reeve dedication! Just another reason to see it again.
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Quoted from Breanne Mattson


Andy, I love you but …

Christopher Reeve
Made us believe
A man could fly like a plane
He had an ‘s’
Upon his chest
But not in his last name.

Sorry, Andy. You can slap me if you want.

(I loved Christopher Reeve.)


DOH. I don't know why I didn't realise that sooner. I'm not very observant then.... feel free to slap away  

I too could watch it again, which tells me how good the movie actually was. I thought maybe they'd put the dedication to him and his wife at the start, but nothing. I was waiting anxiously at the end when everyone began walking out, hoping it'd be there, and it was. I started clapping away and didn't give a damn. RIP Christopher and Dana.
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Well, I went and seen this today and I thought it was utter GARBAGE! It had little to no action at all. IT was vacant of pretty much any and all excitement throughout much of it and I'd even venture to say only about 15 minutes of the movie was actually dedicated to on screen superman... Maybe even less.

Kevin Spacey was alright. He's a pretty likable guy in most everything he does, though... Although his little stunt at the Grammies that one year really pissed me off.

Lois Lane was kinda hot... but she was also very bland. She kinda made me wish Teri Hatcher was 15 years younger and up for the role. I believe she was the best Lois Lane thus far. Not to mention the sexiest... Well, in her day that is. She's lookin' long in the tooth now with all her MP DAG HAG HOOKER RAG HOUSE WIVE friends of hers.

Anyways, I've never liked Superman. Ever. I liked it when that one guy killed him... that was cool. I've always thought Superman was a hypocrite and a pretty queer superhero. Today, after this movie, my opinion still hasn't changed.

What I wanna know is why everyone, all over the world, loves this guy? It might be different if he was "FIGHITNG FOR TRUTH JUSTICE & THE WORLD WAY" but he's not... He's "FIGHTING FOR TRUTH JUSTICE & THE AMERICAN WAY" Fuck the world, Superman says.

I'd like to smack him actually... For all intents and purposes Superman is an Alien. That's it. An Alien with a queer costume and a cape that has too much starch in it.

I give this movie a huge thumbs down and a kick in the balls. It was more character and emotionally driven than most any superhero movie out there... Unfortunately the characters all sucked and they didn't focus on the one character they needed to the most.

Waste of 7 bucks? I dunno, I did get to eat some good popcorn... That might've been worth the 7 right there.

I won't be seeing the next one or the one after that or the one after that... Xmen sucked and it's no surprise to me that this one did too.

Singer should fight Uwe Boll for biggest ANAL BEAD director.
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I don't understand what all the hype is about. Am I the only one who thinks Superman is the lamest superhero ever? I mean, he's super fast, super strong, his only weakness is Cryptonite and it's not like villains walk around with it in their back pockets. He's basically unstoppable, which makes him boring. Even worse, Superman is an inherantly good character. His morals don't sway, he has no flaws... he's basically a goodie two shoes. His character couldn't be more bland. And his villains are lame as well. Batman has Joker, Scarecrow, etc. Superman has a bald guy.

Sorry but you can count me out of this one.


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And James, you aren't missing a damn thing... It's some CROTCH STICK runnin' around in a tight blue suit with a maroon cape "now" and he fights "marginally" and flys even less. It's a pretty big SHIT BALL, really.

And yes... Superman has to be the worst superhero of all time. He's even below Auqaman and Shazam or whatever his name was. Hell, Hawkman and Green-lantern are better than Superman... Superman, for all intents and purposes, is a complete CRATER COCK!
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I'm going to stick my head out and say that, I just plain dislike superheroes. Unless it's someone that I can really feel for (haven't seen one yet). I'm probably going to make enemies here, but to me superheroes are geared towards males, males that wish they can do more than what they can in real life.

If I ever need rescuing, I'll welome anyone, but to be honest with you, I'd rather have a real person come to my aid than someone in a stupid costume.


Haha!  That's the funniest thing I have ever read.

But I think anyone who takes a superhero to heart is pretty lame.  Maybe a little kid might go crazy over a superhero, but as adults, come on.  I mean, I like the movies and all, but that's about it.  These people that walk around with Spiderman gear and wear Superman shirts are kinda tacky.  Most of the films are good action flicks, but that's what I take them as.  Action movies.  Not as role models.

I know this is a bit off topic and I apoligize, so I will say that I will most likely not being seeing this film, but great review Syco.  

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I thought it was really really well done.  Really good.  During the title sequence I was ecstatic.  Maybe waned a bit through the second half (perhaps due to the somewhat un-Superman like settings, I thought), but still went like a bullet and delivered some absolutely great Superman stuff, in every sense.

Did anyone else feel like standing up and cheering with the crowds at the end of the plane sequence?
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At the end of the plane sequence I was thinking "Jeez, how long does it take Lois Lane to get to the front of the plane?" She made up for her slowness with her exit from the plane
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I agree with Baltis. I thought it sucked. I thought it was boring and stupid. All i enjoyed was seeing Kevin Spacey. Everything else SUCKED!

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I just got done seeing it and thought it was great. It was a little long, though. But I guess I got more for my money!

-Chris
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The scene at the end where he goes across the screen looked really fake and basically ruined the movie for me. One second of crap and it makes the entire effort look poor. If you can't fix that tiny moment throw the film in the garbage and run back to nothingness.

I am not a fan of Superman and think a lot of people are only fans in memory of Chris and that is sad and pathetic on your part. I feel sorry for you.

That said I did enjoy the comedy aspects which is the new superhero trademark.

The movie was good for a horny guy in tights just trying to get his girlfriend back from Cyclops. Superboy! Yes, we're all being Punk'd.


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Superman Returns - C+

The whole thing lacked depth.  It felt like an homage to the first two.  Spacey was kind of lame.  Not a great villain, just evil and that stupid plan for the new continent was really stupid.  How is someone supposed to live on a rock?

Superman was ok.  Lois was badly cast as well as just about everyone else.  Especially Lex's goons who were just cardboard cut out characters.  Did like the "weren't there two of them?" line.  Laughed out loud.

Where is Zod?  I miss that guy!  A great villain.  This summer has been a waste of my money.  The reason?

It's called intellectual and creative bankruptcy.  Studios are out to fudge with my memories and shmucks like me are footing the bill.

The screenplay, which I managed to get a hold of, was really badly structured.  Too many slow spots.  The film translated this very well.  So blame just about everyone for this mess.  I'd rather go see Napoleon Dynomite...on my DVD player.


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The funniest thing happened while I watched this with my friends here. When Superman first arrives on Lois Lane's roof top balcony thing, and he glides slowly down with his arms crossed, I completely forgot where I was and let out the LOUDEST "mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm" ogle-ing drool, ever! I didn't realise till everyone around me, especially the guys burst out laughing. I could have died there and then, it was so funny. I had the giggles for a good 10 minutes after that, as did the others around me  

So, I shall drool again over the hunky Brandon baby, yeah..."mmmmmm" and "Schwing!"  

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I heard this did better on its opening weekend than Batman Begins but not as well as Spider-man 2, which holds the record. A little over $52 million.

I saw this again with my little sister and she said it was good and she hates superhero movies. But I think I kind of annoyed her because I kept spilling trivia facts during the entire movie. Did you know that the guy that composed Star Wars composed the theme? Did you know that that old woman was the first woman ever to play Lois Lane on TV in the '50s? That bartender was Jimmy Olsen in the '50s TV show! Did you know that one of Kate Bosworth's eyes is blue and the other one is brown? Yada yada yada. I bet she would've liked it better if I shut up.
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I enjoyed the movie for the nostalgia of the old Superman movies. The opening titles brought a smile to my face and the ending also made me happy. The fact that it couldve been SOOOOOO much worse and how it turned out to be so much better then what was planned. I mean, if Tim burton go ahold of it there wouldnt even be a red and blue suit, he was going to make it black and have Superman, for God knows why, drive around in a superman mobile!!!!!!! Be thankful, really, that Bryan Singer stayed traditional and actually took a dare by making this a sequel then another remake.

Sure, Superman is a pretty "corny" character on the outside but it's actually the inner themes that got to me. As a sequel to Superman II this movie delivers although it doesnt deliver nearly as much on the human side of Superman as Superman II did it still gave me that feeling of Nostalgia which i very much enjoyed...


I used to wear Spiderman PJ's to bed every night, then I woke up one morning and said to myself "Self, your to old for this spiderman bull." So I went to target the next day and picked up some Wolverine PJs cause man, that guy stabs people. C. Walken
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Perhaps a remake would have been better.  Seemed like an homage and that's it.  An homage with B actors except for Spacey which didn't do Lex justice.


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I have to wait until next Friday to see this and as a huge Supe's fan, will love it just to hear the theme tune on the credits. From what I've read, its all downhill from there but I doubt it. There has been a lot of negative feedback but the original Superman film got the same I beleive when that first came out.

Im just pleased the man is back and from what I have seen, Brandon Routh looks and sounds like the legend himself, Christopher Reeve, which will make me rather emotional lol.










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I heard this did better on its opening weekend than Batman Begins but not as well as Spider-man 2, which holds the record. A little over $52 million.

I saw this again with my little sister and she said it was good and she hates superhero movies. But I think I kind of annoyed her because I kept spilling trivia facts during the entire movie. Did you know that the guy that composed Star Wars composed the theme? Did you know that that old woman was the first woman ever to play Lois Lane on TV in the '50s? That bartender was Jimmy Olsen in the '50s TV show! Did you know that one of Kate Bosworth's eyes is blue and the other one is brown? Yada yada yada. I bet she would've liked it better if I shut up.



I don't know or care enough about Superman or superhero's in general to wrap my head around any of that... However, the unimaginative score for Superman, Starwars, E.T. and Indiana Jones are all done by the same person it sounds like... cause all of them consist of the same 4 stops.

In turn this makes them sound very much a like... I'm basically saying, these theme songs are the GREEN DAY, NIRVANA and GOOD CHAROLETE of movie music.
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John Williams is a great composer. He's considered a legend among film composers for a reason. I'd hardly call those 4 scores unimaginative. They have some similarities in their main melodies, but not much. They have some of the most distinctive melodies to them that perfectly fit the films they are used in. Play someone the Star Wars theme and the Indiana Jones theme and I guarantee they can tell them apart with no trouble at all. He has a certain style that is his and it results in certain pieces of music sounding similar, but not the same and none of that has to do with "the same 4 stops" (whatever that means). The themes you mentioned have a similar structure in terms of the intervals used. This is to give off a certain emotion. It's a style that's been used for a long time. In fact, much of the style of the themes you mentioned show an influence of film scores of the 30s and 40s. These themes are well composed. Ask any veteran composer and I guarantee they'll tell you that too. Williams' references to past scores are great. His use of leitmotifs in the Star Wars films is genius. I haven't seen the new Superman, though. Was it a new score used or the Williams one?
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They used Williams's score point blank in the titles -- but the rest of it was John Ottman. However, John Ottman just wrapped some new material over the basic melody. Personally, I wasn't paying much attention to the score other than the theme, but I will next time.

And, baltis, I know it's tacky, nerdy and geeky to dedicate much of my time and energy into superheroes -- especially Superman... but I can't help it.
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They used Williams's score point blank in the titles -- but the rest of it was John Ottman. However, John Ottman just wrapped some new material over the basic melody. Personally, I wasn't paying much attention to the score other than the theme, but I will next time.

And, baltis, I know it's tacky, nerdy and geeky to dedicate much of my time and energy into superheroes -- especially Superman... but I can't help it.


Be a nerd, geek, whatever... I don't care. If you like Superman, go for it!  

I'm not flanking you none.

As for 4 stops... I didn't mean in terms of intervals. I meant beats. There is the same 4 stop beat in all of those themes.

I'm not arguing the fact that each theme represents the core of the movie they're in. Not at all... I'm just saying it's simple stuff. Simple stuff "like Nirvana's shit" that has little deviation behind them.

If you played me a Star Wars excerpt and then a Indiana Jones excerpt... I might be hard pressed to tell them apart. Depending on how much you let me listen to.

And I'm a musician that plays Piano, Guitar and Drums...
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Without reading above comments, I have to say I loved this movie.
It was excellent, and everything a Superman fan would ask for.
To keep the Superman from 1978 and then make him into the Superman of 2006 takes some doing, and well, the director did it.

The actors, particilarly the excellent Brandon Routh, did a great job. Superman is without a doubt the most loved and enjoyed superhero of all time. This movie delivered exactly what I wanted and more...Fantastic job.

There is Spiderman and Batman, but they will never catch the worldwide audience that Superman has. Whilst I like Batman Begins, and would like to enjoy the next =Spiderman film, when it comes down to comic book super heroes, Superman has to come first.  

Great film.



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I was very disappointed when I saw this film. It didn't bring much of anything new to the table. I'm getting extremely tired of Lex Luther as the villain. Can't they find any other villains to use beside him?

I was also looking for sort of an action film when I went to see this. Watching Superman holding things on his back and bringing them down to earth gets really old.

The coolest part of the movie is when Superman is getting beat up when he's near the kryptonite. Finally some real weakness is being shown.

And can't we see Superman get in a fist-fight? No real action was in this at all which was a huge disapointment for me.

In the comics Superman dies and is rejuvenated by the sun or something, anyways he comes back in an all black suit and a red "s" on his chest. Which makes him look real bad ass. I would like to see something like that in the movies not the same thing over and over again.

Grade: C


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I didnt mention this before but the last Superman movie was in 1987.
Thats somewhat 20 years ago.

There's a new generation that has never seen the original Superman movie so whilst this was a new film and a sequal, it was fantastic to the older viewer.

Who the heck is going to want to watch something that follows on from a movie made in 1987 let alone 1978. This movie makes obvious hints to that first Superman film and I for one, applaued that. Thank you for not forgetting us, and not making a remake!

This is a sequal so for god sake, lets embrace that! They didnt make a remake, and have continued a story from 1978 and made it succesful. That alone is a good thing.

The whole thing as a marketing tool, is money mad. Superman Returns is going to to re-introduce him as the main superhero and the merchandise will be insane. It is exactly like when the first Superman film came out, people said it would fail and look at that. We are still talking about it now.

So I love this movie even more because it does not completly rip off people. It is a sequal, and for that alone, in these days, Im grateful.



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Dude this movie was awesome! One of my favorites. Stunning visual effects and action scenes! Definatly everyone should see it!
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Superman Returns Sucked, I didin't expected these much Crap from B.Singer, Warner Bros. might have hired Director McG for this reinventing Venture.

Singer made this one Sucking, the worst thing in this movie was incooperating Stpid Idea of connecting Louis Lane's Son with Clent, this Sucked more than Sam Rami's Spiderrman 2 in which all people got to know who is Spiderman!

What's wrong with todays directors, is there no one in the Studio Executives to stop this kind of Crap things happening to the Scripts to the filmimg of these movies?

Waht's wrong With Hollywood!


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I liked this film. It had flaws yes, some moments of sloppy acting and directing, but nothing wrong that a tight script won't fix. I've said it before and I'll say it again, there is nothing wrong with Superman Returns that wouldn't be fixed by a better script. I think all of the actors are right for their roles, ditto the director.

The writers just missed the Superman beat. There's something that every Superman movie should have. I don't know what it is exactly, but it's something special, some kind of movie magic. Superman III didn't have it, Superman IV: The Quest For Peace didn't have it and neither did Superman Returns. The first two movies did (a success I credit entirely to Richard Donner. Richard Lester be damned because he made Superman III.) But Superman Returns is still a huge leap ahead of the last two installements in the franchise.


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Nobody is objective anymore. They hail Superman because Chris Reeves is dead. I have no bones in saying I hate Superman (Purchased this yesterday on DVD) because I enjoy watching films and how they are made.

Spiderman was weak. Spiderman 2 was leaps better but still they made the same film twice and got away with it.

If you watch movies like I do for entertainment value, you don't really mind if it is a poor film but I admit the truth even if the ever loving "You can't not like the film now that he's dead..." people will nit pick and cry like little children over the facts.

Brandon Lee made a good movie in The Crow but the only reason anybody cares is because of who his father was. If he was just another schmuck dying on a film set, nobody would care, let alone pay tribute with songs and calling The Crow a classic. I love The Crow and rank it high but it is not a great film, none of them are.

It is those same ever loving people that forced The Crow to become a joke to its biggest fans like myself because they spit on Brandon Lee by calling themselves fans but really only care because he is dead and they jump on a new band wagon every day. It is a sad sad world and I hate people who disgrace good guys by jumping over because he is dead.

If being dead makes you great... damn, we have really become sad pathetic people.


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Here's an interesting review of Superman Returns.  Enjoy!

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0706/superman.html


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Christians. Always assuming that their opinions are the most important out of anyone's because they are "believers". The similarities between Superman and Christ are obvious when you think about it, but I sincerely doubt that's what the filmmakers were going for. Perhaps THIS particular reviewer should kill HIMSELF so we don't have to waste our time listening to religious crap spouted by lunatics. Just my opinion.


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I saw this in theaters and loved it. I just picked the DVD up and watched it again and love it even more. I think this is by far one of the greatest Superman films ever made. It's more fun than Batman Begins (and I love Batman Begins) and it's much easier to watch.

The emotion is real and you feel for the characters, but I don't think Superman was ever supposed to be as emotionally "strong" as batman and other Superheroes. So, in that sense, I think this movie is much more light-hearted and fun than any other Superhero film.

My only complaints are that it was a little drawn out. It could've been a little shorter. And the CG was a little sketchy when it comes to smoke and fire.

Overall...4/5


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Quoted from James McClung
I don't understand what all the hype is about. Am I the only one who thinks Superman is the lamest superhero ever? I mean, he's super fast, super strong, his only weakness is Cryptonite and it's not like villains walk around with it in their back pockets. He's basically unstoppable, which makes him boring. Even worse, Superman is an inherantly good character. His morals don't sway, he has no flaws... he's basically a goodie two shoes. His character couldn't be more bland. And his villains are lame as well. Batman has Joker, Scarecrow, etc. Superman has a bald guy.

Sorry but you can count me out of this one.



i gotta go with james on this one guys. the story of superman just doesnt wow me.


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I saw this movie during the summer and HATED it. It was back and forth between being a sequl and a remake. I like Kevin Spacy, he was good. but the rest had me wanting to hurt myself. I hate Superman, always was a bigger fan of Batman. Also, was it just me or did Brandon Routh and Kate Bosworth all just seem too young to be playing who they were playing?

Instead of doing another pile of jank to this movie, i have two other films i would rather see.


Superman Vs Batman (Even if just to watch Christian Bale beat the crap out of Brandon Routh with the Kryptonite Gloves)

Superman Vs Hitler (Come on, Superman beating up on the Nazis for 90 mins would be sweet)
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