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Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 18th, 2011, 10:00pm
Okay people, you ready? This OWC we don't have to pretend that a producer/director is asking us to write a short script to be filmed. This time we actually have a real award winning director asking us to write, so here's your chance.

...but first a note from Don.

"The Challenge will run from 10:00 pm est on February 18, 2011 to 11:59 pm edt February 25, 2011.  Scripts are due on or before 11:59 pm edt February 25, 2011.

There is no cost to enter your script in the Challenge.

The Challenge is open to all members of the discussion board of record as of 11:59 pm edt February 25, 2011.

This is NOT a contest.  This is a Challenge only.  

While Rick/ScarTissueFilms is looking for scripts, there is absolutely no guarantee that any of the works submitted will be produced in any form. This non-guarantee trumps any statements past, present or future with regard to the February 2011 One Week Challenge.

Entries are to be anonymous.  After a few weeks or so, the names of the writers will be revealed.  

Scripts need to be submitted here:

http://simplyscripts.com/unpro_short_exercise_11_02.html
Please put "copyright (c) 2011" on the script.


This is what Rick Kinsella is looking for...

Page count. 10 pages or less. Multiple submissions allowed, but PISSTAKES will not be considered!

Genre: Low Budget Horror

All genres of Horror...Gothic, Torture, Slasher, Supernatural Thriller, Dark Fantasy, etc are acceptable, he's also open to more abstract forms. You are free to interpret the genre loosely, so a drama with horror elements is fine.

Each story will be judged on its individual merits and not by slavish attention to genre.

Looking for Powerful, original stories with a strong thematic content. Visually interesting with memorable characters and unique endings...twists are good and also an attempt at creating standout/iconic moments.

Theme:  British/Celtic Mythology

Scripts should be  based on one of the concepts below:

Angau, Anthropophagi, Aswang, Bean Sidhe, Baobhan Sith, Bean Nighe, Bendith Y Mamau, Bogeyman, Bunadh beag na fairrage, Cadir Idris, Corriigan, Darrant, Death-Bell, Divination, Doppleganger, Dyeduska Vodyanoy, Fear Liath More, Fetch, Gnome, Goblin, Gwragedd Annwn, Hand of Glory, Lambton Worm, Leanan Sidhe, Liannan She, Moran's Collar, Muryans, Necromancy, Occult, Osschaert, Pop, Sea Witches, Urisk, Will O the Wisp, Witches, Selkie, Shellycoat, Sirens.

Pantheon of mythology to give you ideas:

http://www.pantheon.org/areas/folklore/folklore/articles.html

Writers are free to modernise, modify and combine ideas.

Limitations:.

Contemporary and accessible locations. All generic locations are fine.

This does not mean that the story has to be contemporary but bear in mind that a decision to set it in another time will affect the scope of what can be shown.

No explosions, destructions of buildings, acting animals, police/military vehicles.

Writers should be ambitious and not feel limited by the budget. Think about point of view...If you look at a film like Signs, you can see that you can successfully tell a tale about a worldwide alien invasion set  almost exclusively in a farmhouse..

...and there you go. Happy writing.  


PS: Rick will be around if anyone has any questions. Just post your questions here in this thread.
Posted by: JonnyBoy, February 18th, 2011, 10:04pm; Reply: 1
AWESOME.
Posted by: The boy who could fly, February 18th, 2011, 10:05pm; Reply: 2

Quoted from Grandma Bear
Goblin


Oh yeah! Troll 3 here we come!  :P
Posted by: DarrenJamesSeeley, February 18th, 2011, 10:06pm; Reply: 3
Page length requirements..?
Posted by: LC, February 18th, 2011, 10:07pm; Reply: 4
usual page count? Yep, he got in before me?
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 18th, 2011, 10:08pm; Reply: 5
Hmmm...yeah!  I believe it's 10 pages or less. If not, I'm sure Rick will chime in in the morning.

Sorry about that. I read this over 100 times, but I guess I missed that "little" detail.  :)
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 18th, 2011, 10:09pm; Reply: 6



Oh yeah! Troll 3 here we come!  :P


Kick it up dude! Don't be afraid!!!  ;)

Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), February 18th, 2011, 10:16pm; Reply: 7
No druids?  You suck, Rick!


Phil
Posted by: Baltis. (Guest), February 18th, 2011, 10:27pm; Reply: 8



Oh yeah! Troll 3 here we come!  :P


Brush up on your movie history before you write... Troll 3 was already made.  It was called "The Crawlers".  

But with that said, I'll probably dive into this one...  I got a few things I'd like to meld together here.  So when we post the script, or send it in, we don't use our names on the script itself, yes/no?

We make up a name or just leave it blank?
Posted by: Ryan1, February 18th, 2011, 10:38pm; Reply: 9
I didn't see it in the rules but can we have multiple submissions?
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 18th, 2011, 10:44pm; Reply: 10
Yes, Rick said multiple submissions are ok. However, PISSTAKES will not be welcomed!!!!  Take this seriously or stay out.  :)
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 18th, 2011, 11:20pm; Reply: 11
Wow...I knew I liked Rick.  Sweet.  The newly once again AZ native is in, DAMNIT!!!!!

Love this challenge. I foresee a number of really good submisions.

Thanks to Rick...and Pia...and DON...and...
Posted by: wannabe (Guest), February 18th, 2011, 11:26pm; Reply: 12
It seems like just about all of the concepts given had something to do with water.  Is that a preference for location?  Some were even creatures that lived under water.  

Very unique idea for this challenge by the way.  Totally grabbed my attention.  :)
Posted by: keaton01, February 18th, 2011, 11:46pm; Reply: 13
I think I know why he's asking for this particular genre and theme. ;)
Posted by: Baltis. (Guest), February 19th, 2011, 12:16am; Reply: 14
Does it have to take place in England and with English actors?  I ask this because the tone of dialect will have to match for me.  If there is one thing I need 100% authentic it's the dialogue.

English/Celtic Mythology does seem broad but maybe a little too broad.  I was hoping for something more restrictive to be honest... Something that allowed us to work with the least amount of viable means, yet use the most creativity.

I dunno... Like I said, I'll probably do something here but I certainly need to brush up on both my English lore and Celtic Mythology now looking back in retrospect.
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 19th, 2011, 12:36am; Reply: 15
I for one, love the open endednous of this assignment.  No one will be pigeon holed here.  Scripts should run a very wide gambit and it's even possible, we'll have over 20 different themes playing out.

Looks like some research will be required as Balt pointed out.  Let's do out homework and give Rick a whole shitload of scripts he can turn into winning shorts.

YES!!!
Posted by: Baltis. (Guest), February 19th, 2011, 12:45am; Reply: 16
I do agree with Jeff on the broad nature being a win for the readers... At least we won't be reading the same basic scripts, tweaked ever so slightly this go around.  Even though I absolutely loved the October OWC a great deal.

I've got 3 pages of content hammered out for this one, though.  Don't freak out, most of it is dialogue and various ideas and themes.  I'm going to write a page for a handful of ideas and go with the one that I find the most appealing or interesting/fun to write.
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 19th, 2011, 12:48am; Reply: 17
I wish I could take part, but I'm sitting here doodling a stick figure storyboard...  :-/
Posted by: khamanna, February 19th, 2011, 12:58am; Reply: 18
I really like the fact that he let us modernise, modify and combine ideas. That lets us be somewhat free with the subject we choose.


Posted by: Dreamscale, February 19th, 2011, 1:07am; Reply: 19
Free, free, set me free!!!!

No clue whcih way to go, but I will tell you that I am in, and no PISSER this time around.
Posted by: stevie, February 19th, 2011, 3:46am; Reply: 20
Pretty interesting challenge! I'm in for sure.

I'll start brainstorming - have some ideas already with my Scottish ancestry and from walking the West Highland Way years ago.

Agree with Jeff and Balt that the submissions will all be varied and unique - good stuff.
Posted by: stebrown, February 19th, 2011, 4:45am; Reply: 21
Yeah I'm in for this one.

Quick question for Pia or Rick...

By 'no acting animals' do you mean no animals at all? Can we have, for instance, a dog that just has to run in a particular direction?

I'm good either way, but would like to know before I get started.

Cheers

Ste
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 19th, 2011, 4:48am; Reply: 22

Quoted from DarrenJamesSeeley
Page length requirements..?


Around ten minutes or less, but a couple of pages extra isn't going to be a deal breaker.
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 19th, 2011, 4:54am; Reply: 23

Quoted from Baltis.
Does it have to take place in England and with English actors?  I ask this because the tone of dialect will have to match for me.  If there is one thing I need 100% authentic it's the dialogue.

English/Celtic Mythology does seem broad but maybe a little too broad.  I was hoping for something more restrictive to be honest... Something that allowed us to work with the least amount of viable means, yet use the most creativity.

I dunno... Like I said, I'll probably do something here but I certainly need to brush up on both my English lore and Celtic Mythology now looking back in retrospect.


It should take place in the UK...but the actors don't necessarily need to be British.

As for dialects...obviously film is a collaborative medium so it will be possible to work with local actors and authenticate/modify dialogue at a later date to make it as genuine as possible. So you could just concentrate on writing good dialogue and make it clear that the "locals" are speaking in a certain way. That's a matter of personal choice, I suppose.
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 19th, 2011, 5:01am; Reply: 24

Quoted from stebrown
Yeah I'm in for this one.

Quick question for Pia or Rick...

By 'no acting animals' do you mean no animals at all? Can we have, for instance, a dog that just has to run in a particular direction?

I'm good either way, but would like to know before I get started.

Cheers

Ste


You can have animals around...cows on a farm etc. I just don't want them to have to do something specific...run off, find the dead guy and bark..attack the killer during the climax.

If for some reason you feel it's crucial for a dog to run in a singular direction at one point, then it probably won't be a major problem...but it would be nice if you could think of something else!
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 19th, 2011, 5:05am; Reply: 25

Quoted from dogglebe
No druids?  You suck, Rick!


Phil


Druids are in there....they're part of the myth of some of the topics mentioned.
Posted by: RayW, February 19th, 2011, 5:23am; Reply: 26
Typical Adobe After Effects type special effects?
Or even some simple green screen efffects?
Since this is low budget, no wireframe modeling and animation like Maya, right?
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 19th, 2011, 5:25am; Reply: 27

Quoted from wannabe
It seems like just about all of the concepts given had something to do with water.  Is that a preference for location?  Some were even creatures that lived under water.  

Very unique idea for this challenge by the way.  Totally grabbed my attention.  :)


It can be set in any terrain...it can all take place in the city if you want. There's no preference.

Britain is only small and is surounded by water and filled with lakes, so that probably explains why there are so many water based entities. Plus I only selected myths that seemed possible to create on a low budget, many would require high end special effects to be believable..
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 19th, 2011, 5:26am; Reply: 28

Quoted from RayW
Typical Adobe After Effects type special effects?
Or even some simple green screen efffects?
Since this is low budget, no wireframe modeling and animation like Maya, right?


That should be fine.
Posted by: cap10xbls, February 19th, 2011, 8:34am; Reply: 29
Sorry to be thick but where do I upload my script entry
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 19th, 2011, 8:36am; Reply: 30
Here:

http://simplyscripts.com/unpro_short_exercise_11_02.html

However the date needs changing...it should be the 25th of Feb, I presume.
Posted by: RayW, February 19th, 2011, 8:44am; Reply: 31
Homework:
http://www.britishhorrorfilms.co.uk/

http://horror.about.com/od/foreignhorrormovies/a/britishhorror_3.htm
(The Lair of the White Worm - Now that's some quality sh!t there. Fo sho! Doomsday, too!)

http://www.bloodsprayer.com/

https://withoutabox.com/03film/03t_fin/03t_fin_fest_01over.php?festival_id=7865
The British Horror Film Festival 2010 will take place on October 22nd 2011.
The absolute final submission deadline is September 25th 2011.

Gunnin' for that deadline?
https://withoutabox.com/03film/03t_fin/03t_fin_fest_01dead.php?festival_id=7865&festview=&film_id=&category_id=441220
Probably can hit that 30pound SEP 1 deadline

A snippet about the biz - and a horror movie (I'm googling for British Horror Shorts, BTW).
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2011/jan/24/kevin-smith-red-state-sundance?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487

How stupid does your OWC challenge short need to be to get produced? How about an entire feature?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2011/feb/16/11-trailer-review-flick-teaser
Posted by: cap10xbls, February 19th, 2011, 9:11am; Reply: 32
But where do you actually upload the script from that page?

http://simplyscripts.com/unpro_short_exercise_11_02.html
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 19th, 2011, 9:15am; Reply: 33

Quoted from cap10xbls
But where do you actually upload the script from that page?

http://simplyscripts.com/unpro_short_exercise_11_02.html


At the bottom of the page, you insert your info. once you've done that and pressed submit...the page where you upload the script comes onto the screen.



Posted by: screenrider (Guest), February 19th, 2011, 10:19am; Reply: 34
Rick,

Starnge choice of genre and theme after your highly acclaimed "End of Tour" film.  Kinda seems like a step down, IMO.  But oh well, to each his own.    You're the Director.   In any event, obviously you're looking to make another film you can ultimately shop around to festivals and competitions so my question is this -- what about profanity?  IE: F bombs.   Do you feel excesssive use of it would diminish the film's marketability factor?  

If I remember ccorrectly you only had a couple f#cks in EOT.    Reason I ask is because I've got a story in mind but my characters cuss like drunken sailors.   Should I tone it down?  Curious to hear your professional opinion.  

Thanks.  
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), February 19th, 2011, 10:29am; Reply: 35
Rick also produced Dog Run (and did a great job at it), Mike; he likes horror.  It contained a good bit of cursing and is closer to this challenge than EOT.  Why is this a step down?

There's no reason for one to limit one's self in a single genre.


Phil
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 19th, 2011, 10:29am; Reply: 36
I don't see why this would be a step down.  :-/
Posted by: RayW, February 19th, 2011, 10:38am; Reply: 37
Some people like both snails and oysters.   :P



Hey, moderator.
"Lliannan She" begins with two 'L's.




I like flippin' out.
And throwing fits.

They are about the only cardiovascular activity I get.
Posted by: screenrider (Guest), February 19th, 2011, 10:40am; Reply: 38
Don't flip out, gang.    I'm completely onbaord with this project.   But I'm also looking at it from a "commercial" standpoint.   The Horror genre definitely limits its marketability.   Especially for an up-and-coming filmmaker.

Rick can go "anywhere" with EOT.   But Dog Run on the other hand...might be a Shriekfest winner, and that's about the extent of it.    This is just MY opinion.   Take it like a grain of salt.   Better yet, forget I ever brought it up.
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 19th, 2011, 10:44am; Reply: 39
Genre has no bearing on the quality of film. End of the Tour is just a thriller at the end of the day, however good it may or may not be.

That's why I emphasised this:

"Looking for Powerful, original stories with a strong thematic content. Visually interesting with memorable characters and unique endings...twists are good and also an attempt at creating standout/iconic moments."

I think one of the reasons Horror is often seen as a "ghetto" genre, if you will, is because people forget to tell interesting stories with engagiong characters and too often just have 2D characters getting violently massacred by a gimmicky bad guy for no real reason.

As for profanity...I don't have a problem with it as long as it serves the story. Generally speaking it's often overrused...a character can be rough, threatening, offensive without having to swear all the time. It's often an easy way out.
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 19th, 2011, 10:47am; Reply: 40

Quoted from RayW
Some people like both snails and oysters.   :P



Hey, moderator.
"Lliannan She" begins with two 'L's.



I like flippin' out.
And throwing fits.

Thay are about the only cardiovascular activity I get.


It does. Corrigan only has one "i" as well. My fault.
Posted by: RayW, February 19th, 2011, 10:55am; Reply: 41
Hey, Rick and all you UK folk, and once removed cousins in AUS,

How familiar are you guys with any of these "less internationally popular" entities? Generally speaking?

If I was writing this for a US audience I could talk about gnomes, goblins and probably sirens without any expository education.

But... uh... is a UK audience generally going to be QUITE familiar with "Sucking the teat of a Bean Nighe to get a wish"? Or "I thought I was marrying a Gwragedd Annwn, but instead wound up with a Leanan Sidhe!"

"Dude, you got a selkie wife".


If these entities are very well known to a UK audience we can get away with a wee more than a US audience which won't have a fetching clue what a selkie is.
Posted by: screenrider (Guest), February 19th, 2011, 10:58am; Reply: 42

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films
I think one of the reasons Horror is often seen as a "ghetto" genre, if you will, is because people forget to tell interesting stories with engagiong characters and too often just have 2D characters getting violently massacred by a gimmicky bad guy for no real reason.

As for profanity...I don't have a problem with it as long as it serves the story. Generally speaking it's often overrused...a character can be rough, threatening, offensive without having to swear all the time. It's often an easy way out.


Got it.

Thanks.

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films
End of the Tour is just a thriller at the end of the day, however good it may or may not be.


I'll pretend I didn't hear that.    End of Tour is a masterpiece.   Hands down.




Posted by: bert, February 19th, 2011, 11:01am; Reply: 43

Quoted from cap10xbls
Sorry to be thick but where do I upload my script entry


I hope you are not uploading your script already.

You have a whole week -- please take it.

How quickly you can write has no bearing here, and scripts that are submitted within hours of the challenge being issued are most frequently among the worst of the batch.

Proof, put it away and read it in a few days, let it percolate.  All of that stuff.

I am not just picking on you, Cap -- that is a general message to any first-timers lurking about -- as I suspect there are many.
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 19th, 2011, 11:04am; Reply: 44

Quoted from RayW
Hey, Rick and all you UK folk, and once removed cousins in AUS,

How familiar are you guys with any of these "less internationally popular" entities? Generally speaking?

If I was writing this for a US audience I could talk about gnomes, goblins and probably sirens without any expository education.

But... uh... is a UK audience generally going to be QUITE familiar with "Sucking the teat of a Bean Nighe to get a wish"? Or "I thought I was marrying a Gwragedd Annwn, but instead wound up with a Leanan Sidhe!"

"Dude, you got a selkie wife".


If these entities are very well known to a UK audience we can get away with a wee more than a US audience which won't have a fetching clue what a selkie is.


No-one will have heard of any of them. You don't necessarily have to tell anyone what they are. Up to you.  
Posted by: RayW, February 19th, 2011, 11:49am; Reply: 45
So, I'm/we aren't going to be pilloried for a liberal application of movie magic to create mixed-mythology franken-spirits?

     Dear Screenplay Writer,
     WTH was that? You can't suck the teat of a one-eyed selkie
     to get three wishes and a pot of gnome gold.

     Dear Reader,
     You wouldn't know a Bean Nighe from Bill Nighy or even Sean
     Bean in a nightie. Go suck a goblin.


As kids your informal education really doesn't cover much of these creatures?
Posted by: jwent6688, February 19th, 2011, 11:53am; Reply: 46

Quoted from Grandma Bear
Scripts should be  based on one of the concepts below:

Angau, Anthropophagi, Aswang, Bean Sidhe, Baobhan Sith, Bean Nighe, Bendith Y Mamau, Bogeyman, Bunadh beag na fairrage, Cadir Idris, Corriigan, Darrant, Death-Bell, Divination, Doppleganger, Dyeduska Vodyanoy, Fear Liath More, Fetch, Gnome, Goblin, Gwragedd Annwn, Hand of Glory, Lambton Worm, Leanan Sidhe, Liannan She, Moran's Collar, Muryans, Necromancy, Occult, Osschaert, Pop, Sea Witches, Urisk, Will O the Wisp, Witches, Selkie, Shellycoat, Sirens.


Wtf? I have to google everything. I'm not well read, Though witches I do. I do witches.
Are these all British folklore? No problem with doing research to write. Quite like it. I'm just dumbfounded that I have no clue about 90% of the concepts. Then again, I'm daft.

James
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), February 19th, 2011, 11:55am; Reply: 47

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films
I think one of the reasons Horror is often seen as a "ghetto" genre, if you will, is because people forget to tell interesting stories with engagiong characters and too often just have 2D characters getting violently massacred by a gimmicky bad guy for no real reason.


It's become a lazy genre, for lazy filmmakers.  All that they feel is needed are cheap scares and a lot of fake blood.

I'm surprised that you even allow slasher and torture horror in this, Rick


Phil

Posted by: wannabe (Guest), February 19th, 2011, 12:25pm; Reply: 48
@ James....In the post revealing the OWC theme there is a link a few lines under that paragraph of creatures.  If you go to that site it's pretty easy to get the definition of each ... thing.  
Posted by: Eoin, February 19th, 2011, 1:04pm; Reply: 49
I don't think Celtic is entirely correct, Gaelic is more correct, as some of those lore are spelled 'As Gaeilge' or 'In Irish (language)' For example Bean (woman) Sidhe (of the hills or fairy) is a Banshee (same pronouncation, Anglicised spelling)
Posted by: RayW, February 19th, 2011, 1:07pm; Reply: 50
Eoin -

Being bright, indigenous fellow I was hoping you'd illuminate some of this material for an ignorant Yank such as myself.

You heard of any, some, none, most of these critters?

TIA
Posted by: Baltis. (Guest), February 19th, 2011, 1:13pm; Reply: 51
I spent all night studying the various list which was linked -- I've come up with (in writing, not in my head) about 8 solid/possible/could be worth writing stories... I think I've got the one I'm going with, though.  But If anything I've got content to write about for later use due to me having a much broader vision of these entities now.
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), February 19th, 2011, 1:27pm; Reply: 52

Quoted from RayW
You heard of any, some, none, most of these critters?


I was surprised to know as many as I did.  I guess all those years playing Dungeons and Dragons paid off.



Phil

Posted by: reuel51, February 19th, 2011, 2:23pm; Reply: 53
Everything I've found has Aswang as a Filipino creature, am I missing something, or is this the same thing in English and our Celtic mythology? A sort of vampire, witch combo creature.
Posted by: Eoin, February 19th, 2011, 2:52pm; Reply: 54

Quoted from RayW
Eoin -

Being bright, indigenous fellow I was hoping you'd illuminate some of this material for an ignorant Yank such as myself.

You heard of any, some, none, most of these critters?

TIA


Lol come on Ray you're only slightly ignorant :) I have heard of most of them
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 19th, 2011, 3:05pm; Reply: 55

Quoted from reuel51
Everything I've found has Aswang as a Filipino creature, am I missing something, or is this the same thing in English and our Celtic mythology? A sort of vampire, witch combo creature.


:P

I was waiting for that to come up!

There are about four of them that aren't to do with British mythology..aswang, pop, Dyeduska Vodyanoy and Osschaert...but I thought they sounded good so I stuck them in.

Since the UK is so multi-cultural these days, I figured they could have found their way here.
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 19th, 2011, 3:19pm; Reply: 56

Quoted from RayW
So, I'm/we aren't going to be pilloried for a liberal application of movie magic to create mixed-mythology franken-spirits?

     Dear Screenplay Writer,
     WTH was that? You can't suck the teat of a one-eyed selkie
     to get three wishes and a pot of gnome gold.

     Dear Reader,
     You wouldn't know a Bean Nighe from Bill Nighy or even Sean
     Bean in a nightie. Go suck a goblin.


As kids your informal education really doesn't cover much of these creatures?


I picked them because I quite liked the myths as I went through that pantheon page....The Bean Nighe sat washing the clothes of the soon to be dead for instance.

It's not important to identify the myths. Most Japanese horror films are based on the myth of the Onryu:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onry%C5%8D

A usually female, vengeful spirit. You don't need to know that to watch the Grudge, Ringu, Dark Water and all the other dozens of such films.
Posted by: Jean-Pierre Chapoteau, February 19th, 2011, 3:30pm; Reply: 57
I guess I'll try and give it a go.
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 19th, 2011, 3:39pm; Reply: 58

Quoted from dogglebe


It's become a lazy genre, for lazy filmmakers.  All that they feel is needed are cheap scares and a lot of fake blood.

I'm surprised that you even allow slasher and torture horror in this, Rick

Phil



Well....you just never know, do you?

Posted by: Baltis. (Guest), February 19th, 2011, 3:47pm; Reply: 59
I wouldn't count out the slasher flicks, Phil... ;)
Posted by: stevie, February 19th, 2011, 3:59pm; Reply: 60
Rick, a further query carrying on from SR's about swearing? What about nudity/sex, etc? what sort of rating can we go to if needed?

Some of these creatures of myth were young nubile chicks, so the potential is there for some boontye before the bloodletting.

Mine isn't gonna be entirely anonymous - well, I'll submit without my name, but I'm going to be the main character, meaning I'll be using my proper name. The story is set in the part of Scotland where a line of my ancestors came from, and I'm using that as a basis. i have visited these areas so having myself as the main character(though younger), I can inject more into the writing.
I may use a couple of SSer names too, as other characters, just so I don't have to make up any.

Re the list of myths - i'd hardly heard of any either, so checked out that link you had, and picked out the Scottish ones.
Had a sleepless night with the script going around ini my head - half of it is 'written' already!
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 19th, 2011, 4:00pm; Reply: 61

Quoted from Eoin
I don't think Celtic is entirely correct, Gaelic is more correct, as some of those lore are spelled 'As Gaeilge' or 'In Irish (language)' For example Bean (woman) Sidhe (of the hills or fairy) is a Banshee (same pronouncation, Anglicised spelling)


From what I gathered...the Celtic people included the Gaels:


Quoted Text
The Celtic peoples who maintained either their political or linguistic identities (such as the Gaels, Picts, and Brythonic tribes of Great Britain and Ireland) left vestigial remnants of their forebears' mythologies, put into written form during the Middle Ages


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_mythology

But, you're right anyway...
Posted by: DarrenJamesSeeley, February 19th, 2011, 4:05pm; Reply: 62
I noted a lot of the list does seem water/lake based. Some joker grabbing you by the ankles and drowning you...but there's a handful that grab you by the ankles and pull you under the bed...
But I didn't see anything confined to England/Scotland.


Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 19th, 2011, 4:09pm; Reply: 63

Quoted from stevie
Rick, a further query carrying on from SR's about swearing? What about nudity/sex, etc? what sort of rating can we go to if needed?

Some of these creatures of myth were young nubile chicks, so the potential is there for some boontye before the bloodletting.

Mine isn't gonna be entirely anonymous - well, I'll submit without my name, but I'm going to be the main character, meaning I'll be using my proper name. The story is set in the part of Scotland where a line of my ancestors came from, and I'm using that as a basis. i have visited these areas so having myself as the main character(though younger), I can inject more into the writing.
I may use a couple of SSer names too, as other characters, just so I don't have to make up any.

Re the list of myths - i'd hardly heard of any either, so checked out that link you had, and picked out the Scottish ones.
Had a sleepless night with the script going around ini my head - half of it is 'written' already!



Someone will do it as long as it's tasteful.

The more lascivious it gets, I reckon the standard of the "actress" would start to drop, if you follow my drift...so if they get particularly raunchy, I wouldn't have them say too much of interest.
Posted by: Ryan1, February 19th, 2011, 4:16pm; Reply: 64
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 19th, 2011, 4:23pm; Reply: 65

Quoted from DarrenJamesSeeley
I noted a lot of the list does seem water/lake based. Some joker grabbing you by the ankles and drowning you...but there's a handful that grab you by the ankles and pull you under the bed...
But I didn't see anything confined to England/Scotland.




It also includes Wales and Ireland...and a few I threw in because they lent themselves to some intereting stories as I mentioned above.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_liath

Fear Liath is a Scottish tale..basically a Scottish bigfoot.



A lot of myths have counterparts throughout the world.
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 19th, 2011, 4:48pm; Reply: 66
Posted by: Sandra Elstree., February 19th, 2011, 4:53pm; Reply: 67

Quoted from stevie
Rick, a further query carrying on from SR's about swearing? What about nudity/sex, etc? what sort of rating can we go to if needed?

Some of these creatures of myth were young nubile chicks, so the potential is there for some boontye before the bloodletting.

Mine isn't gonna be entirely anonymous - well, I'll submit without my name, but I'm going to be the main character, meaning I'll be using my proper name. The story is set in the part of Scotland where a line of my ancestors came from, and I'm using that as a basis. i have visited these areas so having myself as the main character(though younger), I can inject more into the writing.
I may use a couple of SSer names too, as other characters, just so I don't have to make up any.

Re the list of myths - i'd hardly heard of any either, so checked out that link you had, and picked out the Scottish ones.
Had a sleepless night with the script going around ini my head - half of it is 'written' already!


I enjoy your writing, Stevie. I'm betwixt and between various reads and work and time is an issue, but I will enjoy reading your work here and as many as I can for this one.

Sandra
Posted by: screenrider (Guest), February 19th, 2011, 4:54pm; Reply: 68
A question I believe no one has asked yet; Got any kid actors?   7 - 8 yrs old.   Or is that out of the question.  
Posted by: Sandra Elstree., February 19th, 2011, 4:57pm; Reply: 69

Quoted from screenrider
A question I believe no one has asked yet; Got any kid actors?   7 - 8 yrs old.   Or is that out of the question.  


I believe I remember reading that's out. No animals either.

Sandra
Posted by: reuel51, February 19th, 2011, 4:58pm; Reply: 70

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films


:P

I was waiting for that to come up!

There are about four of them that aren't to do with British mythology..aswang, pop, Dyeduska Vodyanoy and Osschaert...but I thought they sounded good so I stuck them in.

Since the UK is so multi-cultural these days, I figured they could have found their way here.



Cool. I dig that. Researching some of these myths has been really cool. This will be a fun challenge.
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 19th, 2011, 4:58pm; Reply: 71

Quoted from screenrider
A question I believe no one has asked yet; Got any kid actors?   7 - 8 yrs old.   Or is that out of the question.  


Potentially problematic because they can only really work certain days and have to have a guardian at all times.

But there's always work arounds if the story really works.
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), February 19th, 2011, 5:02pm; Reply: 72

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films
What do you think it is?


It's Bigfoot!  He's on vacation and likes to screw with people.


Phil

Posted by: Sandra Elstree., February 19th, 2011, 5:02pm; Reply: 73

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films


Potentially problematic because they can only really work certain days and have to have a guardian at all times.

But there's always work arounds if the story really works.


Interesting to remember: That a fourteen year old girl can look twenty and vice-versa.

So that's one get around.

Sandra
Posted by: Baltis. (Guest), February 19th, 2011, 5:11pm; Reply: 74
No kids?   Then I'm out... My whole story hinges on one.  Oh, well... I'll still write it.  I might pool together one of these other stories, but we'll see.  I've been focusing on this one since I read the criteria -- Guess I should've read it a little better.

Well, Phil -- You might have validation in your slasher theory after all.
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 19th, 2011, 5:13pm; Reply: 75

Quoted from Baltis.
No kids?   Then I'm out... My whole story hinges on one.  Oh, well... I'll still write it.  I might pool together one of these other stories, but we'll see.  I've been focusing on this one since I read the criteria -- Guess I should've read it a little better.

Well, Phil -- You might have validation in your slasher theory after all.


You can have kids, just saying it's potentially problematic.
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 19th, 2011, 5:31pm; Reply: 76
My advice to everyone is to stop asking questions that will limit you and everyone else if teh answer comes back differently than you'd hope.

Write what you want and let's see what we can churn out and what Rick likes.

Balt, c'mon, brother...you're in!  We need you in.  If you need a kid or 2, throw 'em in.  I'm pretty sure I'll be having a kid in mine, but I haven't even looked up a single one of the myths yet.

Unpacking/moving is no fun!!!
Posted by: screenrider (Guest), February 19th, 2011, 5:52pm; Reply: 77

Quoted from Dreamscale
I haven't even looked up a single one of the myths yet.


Sorry, Jeff, but just for the record I'm pretty sure there's no British/Celtic Ski monster.    :D

Posted by: Ledbetter (Guest), February 19th, 2011, 5:56pm; Reply: 78
Interesting challenge.

I'm in. Got a great idea too....(Ihope)

Shawn.....><
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 19th, 2011, 6:09pm; Reply: 79
Nope, no skiing going to be taking place.  May even be set back in the day.  Thinking about some good old fashioned Gothic Gaelic horror...low budget...simple sets, minimal FX, dialogue induced horror with some creepy shit going down.

LOVE IT!!!!

Hope to get a chance to do some research tonight...

Thanks again to Don, Rick, and of course, Mistress Pimp Pia.  
Posted by: Ryan1, February 19th, 2011, 6:15pm; Reply: 80

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films


;D

What do you think it is?


Yeah, that's definitely the Scottish Sasquatch Fear Liath in a SCUBA suit.  Just prankin' some English people.  

Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), February 19th, 2011, 6:45pm; Reply: 81

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films
You can have kids, just saying it's potentially problematic.


Can't be any harder than dogs, right?


Phil

Posted by: dkfrizzell, February 19th, 2011, 10:22pm; Reply: 82
Pardon my noob-ness, but am I correct in my understanding?  You have an award winning director that is going to read the submissions, and if he finds a script that he likes he may actually produce it?

And all we have to do it submit a kick-ass script by the 25th that follows the guidelines the he has laid out?

Sounds fun.
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 19th, 2011, 10:25pm; Reply: 83
There are lots of awards. We're not talking Oscar here, but yes, he is an award winning director.  :)
Posted by: Baltis. (Guest), February 19th, 2011, 10:29pm; Reply: 84

Quoted from dkfrizzell
Pardon my noob-ness, but am I correct in my understanding?  You have an award winning director that is going to read the submissions, and if he finds a script that he likes he may actually produce it?

And all we have to do it submit a kick-ass script by the 25th that follows the guidelines the he has laid out?

Sounds fun.


Basically -- But it might be harder than you think to write a "KICK ASS" script in that amount of time...  I'm opting out at this time as a matter of fact.  I'm taking my story, complete with Star Wars Darth Vader carrying case and going home...  

I'll work on it and sub it to Shriekfest for the early entries on march 20th in the shorts cat.

Then again this could be theatrics, staged to throw people off since it's an anonymous gig here.  But there's always that possibility it's not.  Anyways, g'luck with your entry all... I'll be reading and commenting on all of them (IF I'M A-round).

CUE HAMMOND ORGAN MUSIC:

NARRATOR (V.O.)
And the proverbial plot thickens.
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 19th, 2011, 10:33pm; Reply: 85
I've already submitted mine. Wrote it the day Rick sent me the requirements!!! Ha! Take that!!   :o
Posted by: ReaperCreeper, February 19th, 2011, 10:47pm; Reply: 86

Quoted Text
I'm surprised that you even allow slasher and torture horror in this, Rick


They're legitimate subgenres, like any other, and good movies can STILL be made out of them, though it is very rare (Martyrs and The Descent, for example.)

For the record, I love the challenge. It IS a little too broad though (I believe "occult" should be taken out as it could mean almost anything supernatural!)

Cheers, Pia and Rick. I'm still thinking about a possible story for the theme (I'm a little creatively shot at the moment) but it's very attractive to me.

--Julio
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 19th, 2011, 10:55pm; Reply: 87
OK...if Balt's out, then so am I!!!!!  But then again, that could be just a stupid, lame, age-old trick to throw you guys off.

Then again, I highly doubt Balt is out.  I sure hope not.

Drinking heavily once again and heading to my new Hot Tub...well, not mine exactly, but I guess I got to look at the perks of apartment living...yeah, I know, there are some for sure...just to many fucking people all around me.

Balt, don't bail, my friend.  I KNOW you can and WILL write a KICK-ASS script for this OWC.  And...I will too, damnit!

C'mon peeps!!!!!!
Posted by: ReaperCreeper, February 19th, 2011, 10:55pm; Reply: 88
A question:

Are we to indicate copyright in the title page this time around? Like with the last challenge?

--Julio
Posted by: Don, February 19th, 2011, 10:57pm; Reply: 89

Quoted from ReaperCreeper
A question:

Are we to indicate copyright in the title page this time around? Like with the last challenge?

--Julio


Yes, I'd like everyone to do that.  

Don
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 19th, 2011, 10:58pm; Reply: 90
It's not the law Julio, but if you don't want anyone to produce it without your knowledge, it's a good idea to add that.
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 19th, 2011, 11:04pm; Reply: 91
Or just add some lingo that states, "If anyone fucks with me or this script, there will be Hell to pay, and I'm not just fucking around..."

Pia, what's up?  My life is turning around again!  I'm starting to exude again...and that's always a dangerous thing...
Posted by: RayW, February 19th, 2011, 11:23pm; Reply: 92

Quoted from Dreamscale
Or just add some lingo that states, "If anyone f~cks with me or this script, there will be H3ll to pay, and I'm not just f~cking around..."


Oh, h3ll yeah!
I'm putting EXACTLY that on my submission!



Just for anyone's edification that doesn't know where the heck The Isle of Man is or Brittany from Britain:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_nations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shetland

Bean Sidhe - Irish, banshee, (neutral) wailing old woman of the hills.
Bunadh beag na fairrage - (neutral)  Irish, fairies of the sea.
Fetch - Irish, (neutral) a wraith or disembodied ghost of a living person.

Leanan Sidhe - Isle of Man, (malevolent) a vampiric female spirit, muse of poetry.
Lliannan She - Isle of Man, (neutral) a spirit female fairy friend who waited to encounter and follow a man always, invisible to others.

Muryans - Cornish, (neutral) souls of ancient heathen people, too good for hell and too bad for heaven, dwindled until the size of ants. Also shape-changers and that after each time they changed, they became a little smaller.

Anthropophagi - English, (malevolent) headless cannibals.
Darrant - English, (malevolent) a malevolent water spirit.
Lambton Worm - old english, (malevolent) an eel-like 'dragon'.
Sea Witches - British, (malevolent) phantoms, or ghosts of the dead with supernatural powers to control seamen's fate on the waves.

Baobhan Sith - Scottish, (malevolent) beautiful White Women ghost-like vampires.
Bean Nighe - Scottish, (neutral to beneficial) the hideous old washer woman at the Fords.
Bogeyman - Scottish, (malevolent) vague and amorphous in appearance and they resemble a large puff of dust.
Death-Bell - Scottish, (neutral) a tinkling in the ears to announce the death of a friend.
Fear Liath More - Scottish, (mostly scary, potentially malevolent) the Grey Man, associate with Bigfoot, Sasquatch or the Yeti. Also vast, dark blurs which obscure the sky, strange crunching noises, echoing footsteps which pursue the listener, an icy feeling in the surrounding atmosphere, as well as a physical feeling of a cold grip on, or brush against, the observer's flesh.
Shellycoat - Scottish, (prankster)bogeyman who haunts the rivers and streams. He is covered with shells, which rattle when he moves, announcing his presence.
Urisk - Scottish, (beneficial) a solitary Scottish elf who lives in remote pools and rivers.

Selkie - Shetland, (beneficial) marine creatures in the shape of a seal, female can shed her skin and come ashore as a beautiful woman.

Angau - Welsh, (neutral) personification of death, not an actual being.
Bendith Y Mamau - Welsh, (malevolent) ugly fairies of interbreeding between goblins and fairies. Parent of Crimbils.
Cadair Idris - Welsh, (beneficial) the old giants.
Gwragedd Annwn - Welsh, (beneficial) Water-spirits, lovely creatures are known to choose mortal men as their husbands.

Corrigan - Brittany, (malevolent) druidesses fairy malicious towards Christian priests.

Gnome - France, (beneficial)  a race of small, misshapen, dwarf-like creatures that dwell in the earth in some way related to goblins and dwarfs.
Goblin - France, (mostly scary, potentially malevolent) a more grotesque variety of gnomes.

Doppleganger - German, (potentially malevolent) frightful image seen at the window or staring back from the mirror, could be your own--a double.

Osschaert - Belgian, (beneficial or malevolent) a spirit beneficial to good Christians but punished the wicked and forced many into the path of righteousness.

Dyeduska Vodyanoy - Russian, (malevolent) 'Water-grandfather' shapechanger.

Sirens - Greek, (malevolent) three dangerous bird-women, portrayed as seductresses who lured nearby sailors with their enchanting music and voices to shipwreck on the rocky coast of their island.

Aswang - Philippine, (malevolent) body possessing spirit, ugly old woman

Pop - Thai, (malevolent) fearsome ghosts able to possess a human being and feed on the intestines. Also a female ogre who feeds on human intestines and/or the blood of animals at night.


Posted by: dkfrizzell, February 19th, 2011, 11:46pm; Reply: 93
Page 3 and coming along nicely :)
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 20th, 2011, 12:38am; Reply: 94
Ray, my man...you've just saved me countless hours of research...not that I won't do any, but you've given me a place to start.  Thanks, man!  Seriously...thanks!!!

I'm HAMMIED!!!!!!!!
Posted by: RayW, February 20th, 2011, 1:00am; Reply: 95
You're always welcome, Gene!
I mean Jeff. Jeff!

And you know I always bring snipers to knife fights, so...

http://www.pantheon.org/areas/folklore/folklore/articles.html

Angau - In early Welsh tradition the personification of death.
http://www.celtnet.org.uk/gods_a/angau.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropophagi
Anthropophagi - In English lore, headless cannibals. They have a little brain located near their reproductive organs, their eyes are in his their shoulders and their mouths are in the center of their chests. The were made popular by William Shakespeare in Merry Wives of Windsor (1602) and Othello (1605), but were part of English lore before that.
http://www.lizaphoenix.com/encyclopedia/anthropophagi.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aswang
Aswang - The awang are the most feared of supernatural creatures on the Philippines. They can enter the body of a person and through this person they inflict harm on those the they dislike. Most common are the female variety who appear as an ugly old woman with long, unkempt hair, blood-shot eyes, long nails, and a long, black tongue. She has holes in her armpits which contain oil. This gives her power of flight.
A being of enormous power, she can transform herself into any shape, even inanimate objects. She preys on children, pregnant women, and ill people. Once she has overpowered a victim, she will take a bundle of sticks, talahib grass, and rice or banana stalks, and transform these into a replica of her victim. This replica is sent home while she takes the real person back with her. Upon reaching its home, the replica will become sick and die. The victim will then be killed and eaten. She is said to be particularly fond of the liver.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baobhan_Sith
Baobhan Sith - The White Women of the Scottish highlands. These women are ghost-like vampires who assume the shape of beautiful women and invite men to dance with them, and drink their blood.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bean_Nighe
Bean Nighe - The Bean Nighe, the Washer at the Fords, is the Scottish version of the Irish Bean Sidhe (Banshee). She wanders near deserted streams where she washes the blood from the grave-clothes of those who are about to die. It is said that Bean Nighe are the spirits of women who died giving birth and are doomed to do this work until the day their lives would have normally ended.
A Bean Nighe is thought to have one nostril, one big protruding tooth, webbed feet and long hanging breasts. A mortal who is bold enough to sneak up to her while she is washing and suck her breast can claim to be her foster-child. The mortal can then gain a wish from her.

The Washer of the Fords is sometimes known under the generic name of ban nighechain (little washerwoman) or nigheag na h-ath (little washer at the ford).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bean_Sidhe
Bean Sidhe - In Irish folklore, the Bean Sidhe (woman of the hills) is a spirit or fairy who presage a death by wailing. She is popularly known as the Banshee. She visits a household and by wailing she warns them that a member of their family is about to die. When a Banshee is caught, she is obliged to tell the name of the doomed.
The antiquity of this concept is vouched for by the fact that the Morrigan, in a poem from the 8th century, is described as washing spoils and entrails. It was believed in County Clare that Richard the Clare, the Norman leader of the 12th century, had met a horrible beldame, washing armor and rich robes "until the red gore churned in her hands", who warned him of the destruction of his host.
http://www.lizaphoenix.com/encyclopedia/banshee.shtml

The Bean Sidhe has long streaming hair and is dressed in a gray cloak over a green dress. Her eyes are fiery red from the constant weeping. When multiple Banshees wail together, it will herald the death of someone very great or holy. The Scottish version of the Banshee is the Bean Nighe.

Aiobhill is the banshee of the Dalcassians of North Munster, and Cliodna is the banshee of the MacCarthys and other families of South Munster.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bendith_y_mamau
Bendith Y Mamau - The Bendith Y Mamau ("The Mothers' Blessing") is a rather unpleasant clan of Welsh fairies. They are ugly creatures, and sometimes regarded as the result of interbreeding between goblins and fairies. They steal children and substitute them for their own ugly ones, called Crimbils. Through the intervention of a witch, the parents can regain the stolen child, who will remember nothing of its time with the Bendith Y Mamau, except for a vague recollection of sweet music.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogeyman
Bogeyman - A malevolent creature from folklore. Some of them are merely troublesome and rather harmless, but others are truly evil. They are shapechangers, who can move objects and cause disruptions. Although a bogeyman usually haunts a family, it in some cases can become friends with them and a playmate for the children. The bogle is a more evil type of bogeyman, although it usually harms only liars and murderers.
The bogeymen are vague and amorphous in appearance and they resemble a large puff of dust. A bogeyman can be spotted by quickly looking through a knothole in a wooden partition. If a bogeyman is on the other side, one might catch the dull gleam of his eye before he has time to move away.


Bunadh beag na fairrage - The Irish name of the fairies of the sea. The name means "family/host of the sea."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadair_Idris
Cadair Idris - In Welsh, Cader means chair and Idris is the name of one of the old Welsh giants. Legend has it that anyone who passes the night in this 'chair' will either be a poet or a madman.


Corrigan - In the folklore of Brittany, a female fairy. She is said to have been one of the ancient druidesses, and therefore malicious towards Christian priests. Corrigan is fond of pretty human children, and is usually blamed for all changeling substitutions.


Darrant - A malevolent water spirit that inhabits the River Derwent (Derbyshire, England). He lurks in the pools, awaiting unwary strangers who venture too close to the water's edge, grabbing and drowning them. He can be compared with Peg Powler and Jenny Greenteeth.


Death-Bell - A tinkling in the ears, supposed by the Scottish peasantry to announce the death of a friend.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divination
Divination - Diviners ascertain their interpretations of how a querent should proceed by reading signs, events, or omens, or through alleged contact with a supernatural agency, most often describe as an angel or a god though viewed by Christians, Jews and Muslims as a fallen angel or demon.[4] Divination can be seen as a systematic method with which to organize what appear to be disjointed, random facets of existence such that they provide insight into a problem at hand. If a distinction is to be made between divination and fortune-telling, divination has a formal or ritual and often social character, usually in a religious context, as seen in traditional African medicine; while fortune-telling is a more everyday practice for personal purposes. Particular divination methods vary by culture and religion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppleganger
Doppleganger - The frightful image seen at the window, or staring back from the mirror, could be your own--a double, or doppelg?er (from the German for "double goer"), the sight of which could foretell your own imminent demise. Sometimes described as the soul embodied, sometimes an astral projection or aura, the double most often presented itself as a warning.
Queen Elizabeth I reportedly saw a vision lying on her deathbed, pale and still, soon before she died. Goethe and Shelley also claimed to have seen their doubles, and when Catherine the Great of Russia saw her own coming toward her, she took no chances and ordered her soldiers to shoot at it. Witches, it was long accepted, could project their own doubles and set them loose to do mischief far and wide. As a result, many a women was hanged as a witch even though it could be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that she was somewhere else entirely when the barn burned down, the cow died or whatever else had happened that she was now charged with having done. On other occasions, a double -- of someone else - -could be called forth or seen.

One old Halloween custom has it that if a young girl lights two candles before a mirror, while eating an apple, she will see in the mirror the spectral image of her future husband, peering back at her as if from over her shoulder. If she is brave enough to venture out to a graveyard, and walk all the way around it twelve times, she will meet up with the double itself.
According to another old belief, anyone who wants to know who will pass away in the coming year has only to stand vigil near the church door on April 24, the eve of the feast day of St. Mark. At midnight, the airy doubles of all who will die file in a solemn processional into the church, if the watcher is unlucky enough to see his own image there, he knows his own time is not far off.

To this day, the fear of the double is observed, if unknowingly, in the custom of covering all the mirrors in a house where a death has just occurred. The double of anyone passing the glass, it was once thought, could be projected into the mirror and carried off by the deceased to the afterworld.


Dyeduska Vodyanoy - The Russian 'Water-grandfather'. He is a powerful shapechanger and it is believed that he drowns those who swim at twelve o'clock, be it midnight or noon. He often marries drowned or disinherited girls, but he also has a liking for happily married women. Each time a woman is about to give birth to a child of his, he will go to the nearest village to request the services of a midwife, who will be handsomely rewarded in gold and silver.
The Watermaster can be recognized by his bald head, large belly, round cheeks and his green clothes. He wears a high, pointed hat made of reed. However, he also appears in the shape of a handsome young man or a well-known person from the village. He lives in rivers, pools and lakes, preferably close to a water-mill. He hides during the day as a trout or an old salmon, but during the night he emerges from the water to let his sea cows and sheep and horses graze on the meadows. Sometimes he can be seen sitting on the river bank combing his long, green hair and beard.

On the land he has little power, but in his natural element the water he is all-powerful. It is believed that he hibernates during the winter. When he awakens in spring he crushes the ice in the rivers and pushes large chunks up the river banks. He enjoys destroying mill-wheels, but when he is in a benign mood he guides the fish into the nets of the fishermen or warns against floods.

His daughters, pale and tall and dressed in green, torture the drowned. They like to sit on tree branches, rocking slightly, while singing beautiful songs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_liath
Fear Liath More - the Grey Man, is a creature said to have inhabited the vicinity of the summit cairn of Ben MacDhui, one of the six great peaks of the Scottish Cairngorm Mountains, for generations. The Grey Man is identified as a presence encountered both physically and psychically. In its physical form, the Grey Man is most often described as quite large and broad shouldered, standing fully erect and being in excess of 10 feet in height, with long waving arms. He is also reportedly olive complected or, alternatively, covered with short brown hair. Because of this, some tend to associate him with the Bigfoot or Sasquatch of North American fame, or the Yeti of the Himalayas. Footprints found on the summit of Ben MacDhui do closely resemble the "typical" Bigfoot imprint. However, this association is misleading, as the Grey Man has far more interesting identifying characteristics than his physical description alone.
More frequently, the Grey Man is encountered in physical sensation, but without a true physical form. Sensations of this type include vast, dark blurs which obscure the sky, strange crunching noises, echoing footsteps which pursue the listener, an icy feeling in the surrounding atmosphere, as well as a physical feeling of a cold grip on, or brush against, the observer's flesh. There is also a high pitched humming sound, or the Singing as it is sometimes called, which is associated with Ben MacDhui and the Grey Man.

Additionally, the Grey Man has an extremely powerful psychic effect. Visitors to Ben MacDhui report a feeling of overwhelming negative energy. Occasionally this is described as extreme lethargy and despondency. More often, it is typified by acute fear, apprehension and an overwhelming panic, leading to suicidal thoughts or physical flight from the area. Generally, this fear is accompanied by the physical sound of echoing footsteps chasing the observer, and sometimes the sound of a resonant and yet completely incomprehensible voice which seems to be faintly Gaelic in nature.

Curiously, the Grey Man has a distinct area of influence. At a certain point in their downward flight all observers report that the negative energies and feelings of fear end as abruptly as they began. The Grey Man has most often been encountered within this century by mountaineers climbing in the Cairngorms. He has also been described in several books, including Affleck Gray's The Big Grey Man of Ben MacDhui and F.W. Holiday's, The Goblin Universe.
Posted by: RayW, February 20th, 2011, 1:01am; Reply: 96
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetch_(folklore)
Fetch - A wraith. The disembodied ghost of a living person. They most commonly appear to distant friends and relations at the very moment before the death of those they represent. Fetch-light or fetch candle is a light appearing at night and which supposedly foretells someone's death.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnome
Gnome - A race of small, misshapen, dwarf-like creatures that dwell in the earth. The name 'gnome' was given to them by the medieval scholar Paracelcus, in an attempt to describe the most important of the earth spirits. Gnomes live under the earth, where they guard treasures. According to Paracelcus, they move as easily through the earth as humans walk upon the ground. They cannot stand the light of the sun, for even one ray would turn them to stone. Some sources claim they spend the hours during daylight as a toad. They are in some way related to goblins and dwarfs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goblin
Goblin - Goblins are a different, more grotesque variety of gnomes. They are known to be playful, but at other time they are evil and their tricks could seriously harm people. A goblin smile curdles the blood and a laugh sours the milk and causes fruit to fall from the trees. They pester humans in a number of ways, such as hiding small objects, tipping over pails of milk and altering signposts.
Goblins originated in France and spread rapidly all over Europe. They have no homes and usually live in mossy clefts in rocks and roots of ancient trees, although they never stay very long in the same place. The name 'hobgoblin' is thought to be an abbreviation of 'Robin Goblin', the name Druids gave to the first goblins when they entered Britain.
http://www.lizaphoenix.com/encyclopedia/goblin.shtml

Gwragedd Annwn - Water-spirits from Wales. These lovely creatures are known to choose mortal men as their husbands. One legend has it that they live in a sunken city in one of the many lakes in Wales. People claim to have seen towers under water and heard the chiming of bells.
In earlier times, there used to be a door in a rock and those who dared enter through it came into a beautiful garden situated on an island in the middle of a lake. In this garden there were luscious fruits, beautiful flowers and the most lovely music, besides many other wonders. Those brave enough to enter were welcomed by the Gwragedd Annwn and were invited to stay as long as they wanted, on the condition that they never took anything back from the garden. One visitor ignored the rule and took a flower home with him. As soon as he left the island, the flower disappeared and he fell unconsious to the ground. From that day on, the door has been firmly closed and none has ever passed through it again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_of_Glory
Hand of Glory - the dried and pickled hand of a man who has been hanged, often specified as being the left (Latin: sinister) hand, or else, if the man were hanged for murder, the hand that "did the deed."

According to old European beliefs, a candle made of the fat from a malefactor who died on the gallows, virgin wax, and Lapland sesame oil - lighted and placed (as if in a candlestick) in the Hand of Glory, which comes from the same man as the fat in the candle - would have rendered motionless all persons to whom it was presented. The candle could only be put out with milk. (In another version the hair of the dead man is used as a wick, also the candle is said to give light only to the holder.) The Hand of Glory also purportedly had the power to unlock any door it came across.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambton_Worm
Lambton Worm - The Lambton 'Worm' (old english for 'dragon') has long been part of folklore in Durham, England. The 'worm' began wreaking havoc in the middle ages, when a young member of the Lambton family caught an eel-like creature while fishing on a Sunday. He threw it down a well, where it grew to an enormous size. When the youth went off to on a crusade, the worm escaped the well and devoured anything that came near. It is said that the worm was long enough to wrap itself around the hill, now called "worm hill", completely three times, and it slept wound around the hill in this manner.
The young man managed to kill the worm upon his return from the crusades -- cutting the worm in three pieces -- but only with the help of a witch. His promise to her was that he would kill the first creature he met after his victory. Unfortunately, the first creature he met happened to be his father. Unable to murder his father, the young crusader reneged on his promise to the witch and condemned his family to a curse of untimely deaths that continued for nine generations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leanan_Sidhe
Leanan Sidhe - On the Isle of Man, the Leanan Sidhe is a vampiric female spirit, while on in Ireland she is the muse of poetry. Those who are inspired by her usually live a glorious, but short life.

http://everything2.com/title/leanan+sidhe?lastnode_id=404524
Lliannan She - In the Isle of Man, a spirit friend, a female fairy who waited to encounter men. If one spoke to her she followed him always, but remained invisible to everyone else.


Moran's Collar - In Irish folklore, the collar of Moran, the wise councillor of King Feredach the Just. The collar strangled the wearer if that person deviated from the strict rules of equity.


Muryans - The Muryans (Cornish for "ant") are believed to be the souls of ancient heathen people, too good for hell and too bad for heaven. Their size gradually dwindled until they were the size of ants, after which they vanished and no one knows what became of them. Another traditions tells that the Muryans were shape-changers and that after each time they changed, they became a little smaller. In Cornwall it was considered unlucky to kill ants.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necromancy
Necromancy - a form of magic in which the practitioner seeks to summon the spirit of a deceased person, either as an apparition or ghost, or to raise them bodily, for the purpose of divination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occult
Occult - Occultism is the study of occult or hidden wisdom (forbidden knowledge). To the occultist it is the study of "truth", a deeper truth that exists beneath the surface: "The truth is always hidden in plain sight". It can involve such subjects as magic (alternatively spelled and defined as magick), alchemy, extra-sensory perception, astrology, spiritualism, lithomancy, and numerology. There is often a strong religious element to these studies and beliefs, and many occultists profess adherence to religions such as Gnosticism, Hermeticism, Luciferianism, Satanism, Thelema, and Neopaganism.

The word occult is somewhat generic, in that almost everything that is not claimed by any of the major religions can be considered the occult.


Osschaert - A spirit which haunted the town of Hamme, near Dendermonde in Belgium. The spirit was apparently beneficial to good Christians but punished the wicked and forced many into the path of righteousness. His usual abode was a place where the chapel of Twee Bruggen now stands. He would clamber on the shoulders of those who passed through his territory and carry him around until the bearer arrived at a crossway over which the spirit was unable to pass or when they encountered an image of the Virgin Mary. Those who had a heavy burden on their conscience suffered the most of Osschaert's riding for he pressed them with an intolerable weight and struck his claws deep into their flesh, burning their necks with his hellish fiery breath.

A pious priest, concerned about the misery inflicted by the spirit on his flock, resolved to drive him away by exorcism. The spirit was banished for ninety-nine years to the sea-shore.


Pop - The phi Pop are fearsome ghosts from Thai folklore. They can possess a human being and feed on the intestines. They can be expelled by a spirit doctor who performs a "whirlpool dance." The ghost, watching the dance, is sucked into the whirlpool and is thus removed from the body.
The legend of this ghost originated with a prince who found a magical way to enter the body of another living person or animal. When he performed this feat and entered the body of an animal, his servant, who had been listening to the magic words, repeated the incantation and entered the body of the prince. The prince, unable to return to his own body, transferred to that of a bird and flew to his wife to tell her what had happened. She immediately had the servant's body destroyed and challenged the false prince to enter the body of an animal. When he did, the real prince quickly re-entered his own body. The servant, unable to return to his body, is since then forced to going from one body to the next, eating the intestines.

The phi Pop is also said to be a female ogre who feeds on human intestines and/or the blood of animals at night.


Sea Witches - For centuries stories of sea witches have predominately enhanced British folklore. The tales are believed by many in the sea faring trade. Allegedly these beings, which have been described as phantoms, or ghosts of the dead supposedly have the supernatural powers to control seamen's fate on the waves. Sea witches are still believed to lurk up and down the coast ready to scuttle ships upon the rocks, and cause them to founder in storms.
In legend Sir Francis Drake is said to have sold his soul to the Devil in order to become a skilled seaman and admiral. The Devil allegedly sent Drake sea witches, who raised a storm which helped him to defeat the Spanish Armada in 1588. The area where the battle occurred near Devil's Point, overlooking Davonport, is still believed to be haunted by witches.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selkie
Selkie - The shy Selkies are marine creatures in the shape of a seal. They can be found near the islands of Orkney and Shetland. A female can shed her skin and come ashore as a beautiful woman. When a man finds the skin, he can force the Selkie to be a good, if somewhat sad, wife. Should she ever recover the skin, she will immediately return to sea, leaving her husband behind. The male Selkies are responsible for storms and also for the sinking of ships, which is their way of avenging the hunting of seals.
http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art22774.asp
http://www.newinfo2day.com/freaky/folklore-and-mythology-selkies/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shellycoat
Shellycoat - The Shellycoat is a Scottish bogeyman who haunts the rivers and streams. He is covered with shells, which rattle when he moves, announcing his presence. He enjoys misleading wanderers and often puts them on the wrong track. The Shellycoat is playful, but rather harmless. Generally, the creatures who inhabit rivers are less dangerous than those who live in lakes and seas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirens
Sirens - three dangerous bird-women, portrayed as seductresses who lured nearby sailors with their enchanting music and voices to shipwreck on the rocky coast of their island.
http://www.lizaphoenix.com/encyclopedia/siren.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urisk
Urisk - The Urisk is a solitary Scottish elf who lives in remote pools and rivers. He is friendly and likes the company of humans, but his curious appearance usually scares away those he approaches.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_o_the_wisp
Will O the Wisp - Will-o'-the-wisps are the faint lights seen on marshes and bogs on still nights after sunset. Usually a soft bluish light, but also reddish or greenish in appearance. In folklore, they are thought to be imps or pixies leading victims to danger in swamps and heaths. Sometimes they are believed to be the spirits of stillborn children flitting between heaven and hell.
It is also known as Jack O'Lantern, Peg-a-Lantern, Friar's Lantern, Spunkie, Fox Fire, and Walking Fire. The classical name for this phenomena is Ignus Fatuus ("fools fire").

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witches
Witches - use supernatural or magical powers to inflict harm upon members of a community or their property.
Posted by: Baltis. (Guest), February 20th, 2011, 1:17am; Reply: 97

Quoted from Dreamscale
OK...if Balt's out, then so am I!!!!!  But then again, that could be just a stupid, lame, age-old trick to throw you guys off.

Then again, I highly doubt Balt is out.  I sure hope not.

Drinking heavily once again and heading to my new Hot Tub...well, not mine exactly, but I guess I got to look at the perks of apartment living...yeah, I know, there are some for sure...just to many fucking people all around me.

Balt, don't bail, my friend.  I KNOW you can and WILL write a KICK-ASS script for this OWC.  And...I will too, damnit!

C'mon peeps!!!!!!


I wish you well, Jeff.  I do mean that too...  In all aspects, not just your writing endeavorers.  I hope you're getting settled back into AZ and your life takes the shape you want it to.  Sooner rather than later.

I'll no doubt be keeping an eye out for your script in the challenge... But I do believe I'm out at this point.  The story I'm most passionate about of the ideas I spun is too dependent on children, 1 in-particular and another to a lesser degree.  I feel it will make a damn fine entry into some contest coming up this year to be sure.

I've got 4 scripts, 2 features and now 2 shorts I'm pushing this year.  Been sitting back pecking away, polishing and restructuring 3 of these for some time now and it's time I get with it or get gone.
Posted by: bert, February 20th, 2011, 2:52am; Reply: 98

Quoted from Baltis.
But I do believe I'm out at this point.


Ah, c'mon Balt.  I thought you were in.

Even I've got one cooking this time -- as the late-night inspiration has finally hit -- and I think there's even a fair chance I'll post this one up, too.

How often do we get to play with straight-up horror in the OWC?

I'll be less inspired knowing you won't have a script in the mix for me to trounce.

(And the trash-talking commences...)
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 20th, 2011, 2:53am; Reply: 99
I hear you, bro...I really do...but c'mon, man...Balt, we need you here!  We really do.

Thanks for the warm sentiments.  I'm getting by now finally and it feels good.  Jump in here with whatever you come up with.  I'm willing to bet that whatever you put together...it will be great and well received.

I hope to start thinking about this tomorrow...I'm way too hammied to think about it now...and I'm watching some low budget dreck called Staunten Hill.  Doesn't look very promising...
Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), February 20th, 2011, 3:14am; Reply: 100
What I want to know is why are all of these creatures women?
Posted by: RayW, February 20th, 2011, 4:07am; Reply: 101
What I want to know is why are all of these creatures women?

If I had to take a wild sociology guess, it's a combination of extensive trade traveling during male-centric times these were "observed" making up entertainment for the folks back home, so of course there were lotsa either monsters or beautiful women - and - the males swere likely intoxicated a fair bit of the time so they could blame their mishaps on this trickster or beguiling spirit.

"I'm not guilty, honey! That succubus tricked me".
"Uh huh".

Why'd they crash their ship into the rocks?
Bad captain or helmsman?
Nah. Investors don't wanna hear that.
Blame it on the sirens.

"So, tell me more about why you fell into the creek".
"Uh... I was walking along mindin' my own p's and q's and a darrant reached out and tripped me!"
"Uh huh. And how many p's and q's had you had at that point?"
"Uh... um.... "
Posted by: RayW, February 20th, 2011, 8:30am; Reply: 102
Posted by: wannabe (Guest), February 20th, 2011, 12:33pm; Reply: 103
@ Michael - This one could be either:  "Anthropophagi - English, (malevolent) headless cannibals."    
I had to Wiki that one up because I couldn't figure out how you could be headless AND a cannibal.  LOL.   They use the old face in the chest trick.  Sneaky.
Posted by: DarrenJamesSeeley, February 20th, 2011, 12:37pm; Reply: 104

Quoted from Sandra Elstree.


I believe I remember reading that's out. No animals either.

Sandra


Wouldn't fish, crabs, snails etc be an exception? Or at least *dead* fish, crabs and snails?
And where does that leave the Questing Beast ?

In fact- one of the selected is like an eel, correct?
Posted by: Baltis. (Guest), February 20th, 2011, 12:44pm; Reply: 105

Quoted from wannabe
@ Michael - This one could be either:  "Anthropophagi - English, (malevolent) headless cannibals."    
I had to Wiki that one up because I couldn't figure out how you could be headless AND a cannibal.  LOL.   They use the old face in the chest trick.  Sneaky.


Possible -- But what if they reverse ate them?  Into the ass, out the hatch.  Troma should start production on this tomorrow.

@Bert

I was thinking, as I was coming up with the idea I've got, all the ways this contest could go... and none of them had me being at the top of the heap or getting it produced in this particular contest.  

1.  I have not only 1 kid in mine, but 2.  This has already been red flagged to a degree.  Even if my script were the best, it still wouldn't be producible here.
2.  It was a slasher, but a really, really good one.  Maybe even the best one ever made!!  <Hey, I had to.  ;)
3.  My writing style is easily detected.  I use (LOCATION) like such in my slugs and a few other quarks here and there.  This kills the anonymous factor on my end.

But I do wish everyone luck and I'm still reading every one of them that I can.  
Posted by: DarrenJamesSeeley, February 20th, 2011, 1:06pm; Reply: 106

Quoted from RayW
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetch_(folklore)
Fetch - A wraith. The disembodied ghost ,,,


While I looked over the descriptions Ray, thank you for the post



Posted by: DarrenJamesSeeley, February 20th, 2011, 1:18pm; Reply: 107
Question
Do we have to stick with the legends/myths named or can we use any Celt/Scottish/Irish mythos?
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 20th, 2011, 1:28pm; Reply: 108

Quoted from Baltis.


Possible -- But what if they reverse ate them?  Into the ass, out the hatch.  Troma should start production on this tomorrow.

@Bert

I was thinking, as I was coming up with the idea I've got, all the ways this contest could go... and none of them had me being at the top of the heap or getting it produced in this particular contest.  

1.  I have not only 1 kid in mine, but 2.  This has already been red flagged to a degree.  Even if my script were the best, it still wouldn't be producible here.
2.  It was a slasher, but a really, really good one.  Maybe even the best one ever made!!  <Hey, I had to.  ;)
3.  My writing style is easily detected.  I use (LOCATION) like such in my slugs and a few other quarks here and there.  This kills the anonymous factor on my end.

But I do wish everyone luck and I'm still reading every one of them that I can.  


1. The kids are not an issue....just don't want them to be a common theme.

2. I am open to slashers. They are a legitimate genre and were openly mentioned.

3. I've never seen one of your scripts, so that isn't important and I'm not going to pick (or not pick) based on names.

Get it in.
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 20th, 2011, 1:29pm; Reply: 109

Quoted from DarrenJamesSeeley
Question
Do we have to stick with the legends/myths named or can we use any Celt/Scottish/Irish mythos?


One of the ones listed.
Posted by: DarrenJamesSeeley, February 20th, 2011, 1:44pm; Reply: 110

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films


One of the ones listed.


Had to ask- thanks for the reply.
crosses off Dullahan, subject of a second submission...
Posted by: Baltis. (Guest), February 20th, 2011, 1:49pm; Reply: 111

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films


1. The kids are not an issue....just don't want them to be a common theme.

2. I am open to slashers. They are a legitimate genre and were openly mentioned.

3. I've never seen one of your scripts, so that isn't important and I'm not going to pick (or not pick) based on names.

Get it in.


I'm shocked you didn't read "Kline Manor Pledge"... I was really proud of that one for a weeks work.  I've since re-wrote it and made it longer, but the OWC script still stands as a solid script in my opinion.  

Though I did change some of my formatting up to meet page restriction.
Posted by: Hugh Hoyland, February 20th, 2011, 1:52pm; Reply: 112
This is so cool, thanks for having these kinds of contests!
Posted by: RayW, February 20th, 2011, 2:06pm; Reply: 113
You guys over THERE speak English.
Us guys over HERE speak English.
Yet somehow I respect that we don't always speak the same language.

I know script to screen a lot gets changed.

Are you gonna be mindful that we should all be reel keen on UK-Englishifying our US-Englishified submissions?

I can't even respectfully try to include some hackney, stereotype "English" characters, historical or contemporary.

You okay with us Yanks just having our low budget "British/Celtic Mythology" stories read like a bunch of Americans - KNOWING - darn good and well that can be corrected/modified at a later time?

Or do you wanna watch read me embarrass myself with what I think someone over there MIGHT talk like?
Shall I watch SHAUN OF THE DEAD and HOT FUZZ a few times before writing?
Seriously.

:)



DJ -
You're always welcome.
I like to see stories that have some sense to them.
Anything I can do to contribute to keeping the sheep from wandering off into the bushes too far.
Posted by: James McClung, February 20th, 2011, 2:08pm; Reply: 114
Think I might actually participate this time around. The subject matter is just too juicy. I've got the basic story mapped out but want to spend a little more time on it before I start writing. If it feels hammered out or subpar in anyway or even just moderately good/adequate, I won't submit it. Posting exclusively quality work is something of a New Years' resolution for me.
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 20th, 2011, 2:19pm; Reply: 115

Quoted from RayW
You guys over THERE speak English.
Us guys over HERE speak English.
Yet somehow I respect that we don't always speak the same language.

I know script to screen a lot gets changed.

Are you gonna be mindful that we should all be reel keen on UK-Englishifying our US-Englishified submissions?

I can't even respectfully try to include some hackney, stereotype "English" characters, historical or contemporary.

You okay with us Yanks just having our low budget "British/Celtic Mythology" stories read like a bunch of Americans - KNOWING - darn good and well that can be corrected/modified at a later time?

Or do you wanna watch read me embarrass myself with what I think someone over there MIGHT talk like?
Shall I watch SHAUN OF THE DEAD and HOT FUZZ a few times before writing?
Seriously.

:)


Don't worry an iota about the language. It's an easy fix. Even if I'm writing a script myself, I run it through wit the actors to make sure that it sounds right in their accents.

Worry more about the situations, the structure and the atmosphere.

Do google some images of these places...for instance:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadair_Idris

That's some pretty spectacularly cinematic scenery.

It can be reached by a path from this place:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolgellau

http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&xhr=t&q=dolgellau&cp=0&wrapid=tljp129822949853800&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1259&bih=764

That should hopefully give you a wibe for the type of places we're talking about.
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 20th, 2011, 2:28pm; Reply: 116

Quoted from James McClung
Think I might actually participate this time around. The subject matter is just too juicy. I've got the basic story mapped out but want to spend a little more time on it before I start writing. If it feels hammered out or subpar in anyway or even just moderately good/adequate, I won't submit it. Posting exclusively quality work is something of a New Years' resolution for me.


In a week perfection is impossible, just try and come up with a concept that is so intriguing it draws people in. Something that's cinematic and exciting.

Ultimately the selection (if any!) will be at my discretion, so let me worry about whether it's any good or not.
Posted by: wannabe (Guest), February 20th, 2011, 2:46pm; Reply: 117
Awesome locations Rick.  Very inspiring.  If by some crazy chance my SP is chosen to film...I'm coming out there!! I was actually a Brit once....but that was only by injection.  My first husband was from manchester.  Bastahd was too cheap to bring me there for holiday though.  ;)
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 20th, 2011, 2:54pm; Reply: 118

Quoted from wannabe
Awesome locations Rick.  Very inspiring.  If by some crazy chance my SP is chosen to film...I'm coming out there!! I was actually a Brit once....but that was only by injection.  My first husband was from manchester.  Bastahd was too cheap to bring me there for holiday though.  ;)


;D

You should use that line in a script.

I'm from Manchester btw.
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), February 20th, 2011, 3:23pm; Reply: 119

Quoted from Baltis.
But it might be harder than you think to write a "KICK ASS" script in that amount of time...  


I've participated in three or four of the challenges and my track record says otherwise, Balt. One was produced.  One is currently in production.  And one was the winner in the iScript competition and was made into an mp3.

You just have to come up with a very simple story.  Aim for something half the maximum length for the competition and it's easy.


Phil

Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), February 20th, 2011, 3:28pm; Reply: 120

Quoted from RayW
Are you gonna be mindful that we should all be reel keen on UK-Englishifying our US-Englishified submissions?

I can't even respectfully try to include some hackney, stereotype "English" characters, historical or contemporary.


Stay away from American colloquialisms/slang and you'll be fine.  This holds true, for the most part, if you write a period piece.


Phil

Posted by: James McClung, February 20th, 2011, 3:28pm; Reply: 121

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films
In a week perfection is impossible, just try and come up with a concept that is so intriguing it draws people in. Something that's cinematic and exciting.

Ultimately the selection (if any! ;)) will be at my discretion, so let me worry about whether it's any good or not.


I'm not looking for perfection. Just quality. At this point, I'm much more conscious of what I'm writing than I was, say, two years ago and in hindsight, I think a lot of my OWCs tend to suck, if not, are rushed, possibly even my worst work. I'm not a writer who likes to beat himself up so you might as well take my word for it.
Posted by: Baltis. (Guest), February 20th, 2011, 3:31pm; Reply: 122
@Phil

There are exceptions of course... I read 5 really "KICK-ASS" scripts in the October OWC.  But I also read a bunch of bunk ones too.  I'm saying for anyone just going into a OWC, not too different from this one here, thinking a good script is going to be easy to pull off in a week might be rethinking that theory when the time comes to submit them.
Posted by: bert, February 20th, 2011, 3:36pm; Reply: 123

Quoted from James McClung
I'm not a writer who likes to beat himself up so you might as well take my word for it.


I am like you, James.  I will not post up my end result if I do not like it.

I mean, if the author does not like it, who will?

I sure wish more people took that philosophy to heart.

Having said that:


Quoted from Rick
Ultimately the selection (if any! ) will be at my discretion...


Do you think anything he selects will not be subject to rewrite?

It is all going to be whipped into shape eventually, and reader feedback is a big part of that.

If the concept is rock solid, you might want to think twice about holding back just because your ending isn't twisty enough or whatever...
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), February 20th, 2011, 3:36pm; Reply: 124
My tips still stand.  You can write a good five-pager a lot easier than a decent twelve pager in the given time.


Phil
Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), February 20th, 2011, 3:45pm; Reply: 125

Quoted from bert


I am like you, James.  I will not post up my end result if I do not like it.



I usually like my end result, though it usually has nothing to do with the OWC.
Posted by: khamanna, February 20th, 2011, 4:11pm; Reply: 126
Here's a cartoon about Dedyshka Vodyanoy for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSpsC9q8bVs&feature=related



Most commonly known as simply "Vodyanoy".

Here's the translation
"I'm Vodyanoy
No one wants to talk to me
No girlfriends, except for
The Leeches and Frogs
--how disgusting;
There's water inside of me
Maybe that's why they don't wanna talk to me...
And I want to fly
I want to fly
I want to fly so bad...

I know we have to stick with the horror and this Vodyanoy is too lovable:)) Just wanted you all to take a glimpse.
The cartoon is too funny...
Posted by: khamanna, February 20th, 2011, 4:19pm; Reply: 127
Thanks Michael.

Ray, thanks for all the references. It's of great help! I've already selected mine and have a story. Need to write it down though.
Posted by: jwent6688, February 20th, 2011, 4:21pm; Reply: 128
Couple of questions for Rick...

1. Anthropophagi - sounds like a cool looking creature, yet one that would take animatronics and good special effects to look anything besides laughable on screen. would you look to write some of these beasts with a bit of Hitchcock type horror for that reason? The less seen is scarier...

2. I'm drawn to the doppleganger. Again, scenes in my head that would have things take place inside a mirror or window that aren't taking place on the reality side of the reflection. Can you shoot something like this?

James
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 20th, 2011, 5:03pm; Reply: 129
If anyone wants a read before you submit, I'm here. I'm not participating this time.  :)
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 20th, 2011, 5:06pm; Reply: 130
Second one is (relatively) easy...you just shoot the action twice and edit it together. With a VFX guy on board it would just take a bit of planning.

The first..harder for sure. But someone, somewhere could do it.

I think suspense and tension often make for better films in general anyway...but you've got to have the money shot, at least, with the hideous body/face.

Concentrate on making the story as good as possible and let me worry about that. There will be some young guys out there looking to break into special effects who would love the chance to build something like that for their portfolio, or even maybe an established guy who has less work due to CGI who would rather build it at the weekends than go out drinking.

These guys look pretty good:

http://www.millenniumfx.co.uk/

I notice that to get a job with them, you have to send a CV with 5 examples of your work. So it's people like that you can target...people who have trained and have the skills, but maybe have only three pieces of work and want something "wow" to show the world.
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 20th, 2011, 5:07pm; Reply: 131

Quoted from Grandma Bear
If anyone wants a read before you submit, I'm here. I'm not participating this time.  :)


You got time to read, you got time to write!!!

Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), February 20th, 2011, 5:11pm; Reply: 132

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films


You got time to read, you got time to write!!!



You know she'll just write one last minute.
Posted by: jwent6688, February 20th, 2011, 5:12pm; Reply: 133
Pia,

I see you're now a board moderator. For how long? should i assume you now posess the power to delete my posts?

Thanks for the info Rick.

James
Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), February 20th, 2011, 5:15pm; Reply: 134

Quoted from jwent6688

I see you're now a board moderator. For how long? should i assume you now posess the power to delete my posts?


She's got the power.  So you better watch yourselves.
Posted by: Andrew, February 20th, 2011, 5:54pm; Reply: 135
James,


Quoted Text
I'm drawn to the doppleganger. Again, scenes in my head that would have things take place inside a mirror or window that aren't taking place on the reality side of the reflection. Can you shoot something like this?


Check out this film for the exact replication of those ideas: The Broken.

A very underrated British film.
Posted by: Baltis. (Guest), February 20th, 2011, 5:56pm; Reply: 136

Quoted from wannabe
I see that multiple submissions are allowed but I didn't see if it was acceptable to submit something completed before this challenge.  I'm submitting something brand new for this but I also have q screenplay I wrote a couple of years ago that totally fits the theme.  Is that okay??


That would kinda defeat the  challenge.  Then it becomes a pitch and not a challenge...
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 20th, 2011, 6:03pm; Reply: 137
Rick, it's true I have the time to type up ten pages, but I don't have the time to have another story developing in my head when I need all my concentration on FK.  I can read though. Doesn't take long and doesn't require total immersion.

James, I'm pretty sure it's temporary...sort of a punishment for often complaining about the genre/theme of the OWC.

...and no, I wouldn't delete your post. I love brawls and fist fights!!!!  ;D
Posted by: bert, February 20th, 2011, 6:04pm; Reply: 138

Quoted from wannabe
I see that multiple submissions are allowed but I didn't see if it was acceptable to submit something completed before this challenge.  I'm submitting something brand new for this but I also have q screenplay I wrote a couple of years ago that totally fits the theme.  Is that okay??


I am with Balt here.  In fact, I am pretty strongly against it.

One of the two works is sure to be superior -- pick the best one and go with that.  To do otherwise is actually kind of selfish.

There is no technical rule against it, but if you think about it -- since the submissions are anonymous -- when you submit more than one you are kind of robbing reads and feedback from the other authors.

I have never submit more than one, and I never will.
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), February 20th, 2011, 6:10pm; Reply: 139

Quoted from bert


I am with Balt here.  In fact, I am pretty strongly against it.

One of the two works is sure to be superior -- pick the best one and go with that.


Noooooo....

The one that was written earlier should not be entered as it was not written with the OWC in mind.  Part of the challenge's charm is the time restraint in writing it; there was no such restraint here.  This script could've been written  over the course of months.

If you want to submit it as a short, that's fine.  Don't submit it as a OWC script.


Phil

[bert's edit:  Misread the question a bit -- Phil and Balt are right -- still against multiple submissions in any form, though]
Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), February 20th, 2011, 6:12pm; Reply: 140

Quoted from Grandma Bear

...and no, I wouldn't delete your post. I love brawls and fist fights!!!!  


bert or myself will not hesitate, however... so keep it in check.


Quoted from bert

There is no technical rule against it, but if you think about it -- since the submissions are anonymous -- when you submit more than one you are kind of robbing reads and feedback from the other authors.

I think if you submit two you should have to read and review each entry twice.  ;-)
Posted by: RayW, February 20th, 2011, 6:57pm; Reply: 141

Quoted from jwent6688
1. Anthropophagi - sounds like a cool looking creature, yet one that would take animatronics and good special effects to look anything besides laughable on screen. would you look to write some of these beasts with a bit of Hitchcock type horror for that reason? The less seen is scarier...


I imagine something like The Annoying Orange type SFX would work.




Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), February 20th, 2011, 7:07pm; Reply: 142

Quoted from screenrider


Is that frowned upon?    Fluency is a necessity in this business.   Not trying to start a debate, just asking.


There's no technical rule but there's an informal one called the Helio rule (I think that's because Helio submitted an even dozen or something for one of the OWCs).  It's been around for a while.  Generally multiple entries are frowned upon in OWCs.  


Quoted from Gregg

The Helio Rule came into effect shortly after the April 2006 OWC I believe, where Mr. Helio submitted three scripts.  The Rule states that any person who decides to participate in the One Week Challenge is limited to only one script submission.  We all love Helio, but for the OWC we deemed it unfair to the other participants to submit multiple scripts, considering that some people don't read all the entries, so there's a greater chance that they'd read multiple scripts by the same author rather than an equal share for everyone else.
Posted by: Ledbetter (Guest), February 20th, 2011, 8:45pm; Reply: 143
Okay,

Just submitted mine.

Anyone want a swap, let me know.

Had to do mine this weekend due to the fact I am in class all week and will not be able to do much on it during the week.

Although,

I think it turned out great.

Shawn.....><



Posted by: Dreamscale, February 20th, 2011, 8:55pm; Reply: 144
Damn, Shawn...WOW!  Already completed?  Amazing...nice work.

I haven't even really looked at the possibilities yet, other than a quick scan of Ray's info.

Congrats, brother!
Posted by: Ledbetter (Guest), February 20th, 2011, 8:58pm; Reply: 145
Thanks Jeff!

Care to do a swap?

PS... I got your Pm. Sorry for not replying last night. Hammied tonight though. You?

Shawn.....><
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 20th, 2011, 8:59pm; Reply: 146
Way HAMMIED last night...on my way tonight.  Still moving in and unpacking...no fun...
Posted by: stevie, February 20th, 2011, 9:44pm; Reply: 147
Ok, sorry for any ignorance on my part, but getting back to the no animals thing?

Does that mean ordinary animals like dogs, cats, etc?  Because a lot of these mythical beasties are in fact animals.
Just wanted to clarify as I was gonna use one in a minor role
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 20th, 2011, 9:48pm; Reply: 148
Use anything you want!  Animals, children, whatever.  If Rick can't do it, then you're out.

No Beatles, though...
Posted by: Ledbetter (Guest), February 20th, 2011, 9:55pm; Reply: 149
Jeff,

Are you talking about the bug or the group?

Shawn.....><
Posted by: RayW, February 20th, 2011, 10:08pm; Reply: 150
http://www.justice.gov.uk/publications/docs/coroners-stats-deaths-2009.pdf

Table 4 on page 16
Table 6 on page 17

Just in case anyone wanted to incorporate perverse elements of reality into their horror.

Cheers.  :B
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), February 20th, 2011, 10:20pm; Reply: 151
I didn't need your report for that, Ray.  I can just pick up a newspaper.


Phil
Posted by: RayW, February 20th, 2011, 11:33pm; Reply: 152
So far, this is about "the best" horror short I've found.

The Faeries of Blackheath Woods from Ciaran Foy on Vimeo.



You guys finding anything decent?
Posted by: khamanna, February 20th, 2011, 11:33pm; Reply: 153
I'm done too!
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 20th, 2011, 11:45pm; Reply: 154
Other than the kid's fall, that's  a well done short, Ray.  Great atmosphere, well done all around.  You are the master of research...seriously.

Congrats, Khamanna!  Nice job, but remember, we've all got this entire week, so edit, rewrite, re-read, etc.  Don't jump the gun.
Posted by: khamanna, February 20th, 2011, 11:50pm; Reply: 155

Quoted from Dreamscale
Congrats, Khamanna!  Nice job, but remember, we've all got this entire week, so edit, rewrite, re-read, etc.  Don't jump the gun.


Nah... I'm gonna submit it like that...

Kidding but I like it so far and will stay in oblivion for the next 2-3 hours, let me enjoy "liking it" for this short time, will you:))
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 20th, 2011, 11:59pm; Reply: 156
Of course.  Didn't mean anything negative.  Sorry.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Posted by: Ryan1, February 21st, 2011, 12:00am; Reply: 157
Yeah, I finished mine, too.  Gonna put it aside for a few days, then give it another look.  You always find ways to improve it, so I won't submit until Friday.
Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), February 21st, 2011, 12:04am; Reply: 158
Yeah, mine is finished too.
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 21st, 2011, 12:09am; Reply: 159
Damn...you guys and gals are  frickin' animals!

Very impressive.  Seriously...very impressive!
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 21st, 2011, 3:53am; Reply: 160

Quoted from stevie
Ok, sorry for any ignorance on my part, but getting back to the no animals thing?

Does that mean ordinary animals like dogs, cats, etc?  Because a lot of these mythical beasties are in fact animals.Just wanted to clarify as I was gonna use one in a minor role


The list of available creatures doesn't feature any animals...the closest thing is the Muryans which could look like ants.

Ideally I don't want to have to sacrifice a whole day waiting for an animal to do something it's supposed to do.

I don't mind if they just happen to be around..someone watching birds, a farmer in a field with his cows, but if the animal has to do something specific ie act...growl, open a door, start barking when it finds something....then it's best to try and think of something else.

It's because I'd have to hire dogs and then take them across the country and then find accomodation for them during the shoot. Very impractical.

That being said, if the scene is so excellent that it screams that it has to be made, or you counter the problems by having it largely set in one location...

...like Jeff said, just write the best story you can, then we can worry about it later.
Posted by: DarrenJamesSeeley, February 21st, 2011, 6:03am; Reply: 161
I'm in, of course. I'll see if I can squeeze two in.
First has been submitted.

Pulled an all-nighter on it because it was a small pain getting it down to ten pages (it originally clocked at twelve' but no critters rule helped- no crabs crawling on dead corpses!) my ideas were fresh in my head. Will my submissions "fool" anyone for a week or two? Unlikely.

Posted by: RayW, February 21st, 2011, 10:09am; Reply: 162
Would a short scene of a period piece horseman be too much for a low budget production?

Having difficulty keeping this horror rather than just fantasy with horrific events.
"Horror" paints with a rather broad brush.
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 21st, 2011, 10:16am; Reply: 163

Quoted from RayW
Would a short scene of a period piece horseman be too much for a low budget production?

Having difficulty keeping this horror rather than just fantasy with horrific events."Horror" paints with a rather broad brush.


That's acceptable.

If he's just a guy riding a horse, it shouldn't be a problem.

By the way the separation between Fantasy and Horror is generally easy.

In Fantasy the abnormal is the normal. EG a world where all the fairies exist, zombies can be lawyers, Princesses live in Castles in New York as a matter of course.

The difference with horror is that usually it's normal life and  a realistic person is thrown into a terrifying confrontation with sometihng ...which may or may not be fantastical.

There are three basic story-lines of horror:

1. Horror of Personality. A person is the scary monster: Psycho, Hostel.  
2. Horror of Demonic: Supernatural creature attacks: Exorcist, Jaws, Creature features.
3. Horror of Apolocalypse: End of the world.

These are not mutually exclusive.

There are 3 story types:

1. Psychological horror indicates an element of horror that toys with the mind and targets the psyche. Generally, this type of horror is internal and deals with the inner darkness of human thought. European and Eastern films tend to do this more because they see the soul as being the ultimate thing at stake. US films see the body as the be all and end all...so you get more gore.

2. Sociological horror generally serves to comment on a specific aspect of society - cultural traditions, values, social issues - and is often externalized into something monstrous. Corruption is often a centerpiece in this type of horror.

3. Allegorical horror is largely symbolic and may hold a deeper or almost hidden meaning, drawing on both internalized and externalized horrors. It is the Big Bad Wolf, the Witch in the Gingerbread House, the bill collectors at your door.

Then you can choose a style:

Gothic, Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Gonzo (Paranormal Activity), Torture etc.

Again, not mutually exclusive.
Posted by: bert, February 21st, 2011, 11:18am; Reply: 164

Quoted from DarrenJamesSeeley
I'm in, of course. I'll see if I can squeeze two in.


Please don't.

One of the two works is sure to be superior -- pick the best one and go with that.

To do otherwise is actually kind of selfish.

If you think about it -- since the submissions are anonymous -- when you submit more than one you are kind of robbing reads and feedback from the other authors.

Yes, there was no technical rule against it at the outset -- but this challenge is turning out larger than they thought.

Posted by: screenrider (Guest), February 21st, 2011, 11:26am; Reply: 165

Bert,

I really wish Don would step in and carve that unwritten rule in stone.   I'm so tempted to enter two submissions it's not even funny.   I'm not so sure I can resist.
Posted by: bert, February 21st, 2011, 11:37am; Reply: 166

Quoted from screenrider
I'm so tempted to enter two submissions it's not even funny.


See -- that is 3 people so far.  And I am sure there are others who will not even get the message, or ignore it completely.

In an anonymous challenge, each entry you submit is like adding another author.

Again, it is just selfish.  It is.

I am checking with Don and Rick about this.  We have disallowed it in the past, and I do not think Rick was aware of that.

Take your entry and spend your time making it the best it can possibly be -- instead of noodling around with two mediocre ones.
Posted by: RayW, February 21st, 2011, 11:55am; Reply: 167
I've the ideas for at least eight stories spawned from this challenge.

Although "picking the best - and make it better!" casts a rather subjective pall over one man's treasure is another man's trash I'll enter only one story for this challenge and then submit the rest as shorts next month.
Maybe in two months, as I recall the forty or so OCT submissions took us all about a month and a half to digest.

Frankly, for a ten page short, tweaking it for several days will likely not render a substantive plot change for the better.
Fish is fish.
Chicken is chicken.
Beef is beef.
How you cook and spice them doesn't make one taste like the other.

Hope you're in the mood for chicken.
Posted by: screenrider (Guest), February 21st, 2011, 11:56am; Reply: 168

Quoted from bert
I am checking with Don and Rick about this.  


Thanks.
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 21st, 2011, 11:57am; Reply: 169
I entered two for The Dark. I think they were both good...

I believe Rick wanted as many choices as possible.

I think we can all agree that pisstakes are really really annoying and should be deleted. I also think that with a regular OWC it is nice if we get fewer submissions and not a bunch of scripts from people that never have and never will set their foot here again. However, this time a very valuable SS member and great director is actually looking for a script to shoot. In other words, it is in his best interest if there as many to chose from as possible. I'm not entering so that saves at least one script no one has to read.  :)
Posted by: bert, February 21st, 2011, 12:16pm; Reply: 170

Quoted from RayW
...as I recall the forty or so OCT submissions took us all about a month and a half to digest.


Right you are.

The horror challenges are always quite large.  I've gotten a sense of it over the years, and I can tell you now this will crack 50 easy -- even without the double-dippers.


Quoted from myself
I am checking with Don and Rick about this


Seems multiple will be allowed as (a) They said up front you could, and (b) Rick wants his little mitts chock full o' scripts.

Don has said he might raise a Dr. McCoy eyebrow at 3 entries, however.

So anyway, I am going to stop pounding that drum for now.  But I won't do it myself.
Posted by: leitskev, February 21st, 2011, 1:43pm; Reply: 171
Here's two cents from a new member to the forum. This discussion on multiple entries was interesting, legitimate points on both sides. Bert has a point that it might be a little unfair. But I do agree if one wrote several, it might not be easy to 'pick your best.' For one thing, the best is not necessarily the one that might get chosen to make. The producer will not only have his own tastes for what he is looking for, but he will be the one weighing all the technical aspects and requirements of the shoot. So he might like script A, but decide to make B for some technical reason. For the person writing the scripts, he will not know which one the producer might prefer, so may want to submit them all.

There is one thing people might consider, at least I am. I completed my entry for this in less than a day, so I did consider doing another. It would not distract from fixing and tweaking the first one during the week either. But this is my first OWC, and this was the first short for me. Never heard the term 'pisstake' before, but I don't want to submit one, and certainly not more than one! So as a new member and new writer, I will stick to one entry, and work on something else unrelated. But for more established writers, and people of longstanding membership here, where Scar is looking for as big a selection of stories as they can get, maybe they should be encouraged to submit extra work.

Just a thought to add: I love the contest, and the experience of writing a short was very helpful in learning this craft. Thanks for doing it.
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), February 21st, 2011, 2:34pm; Reply: 172
I think those who enter pisstakes should have their asses kicked so hard that their shit has footprints in it.

In regards to multiple entries, I wouldn't do it, personally, though I have considered writing an alternative ending to my script...  I don't think anyone's done this yet.


Phil
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 21st, 2011, 2:53pm; Reply: 173
I can't believe people actually write those awful pisstakes.  It's really irritating.  Hopefully, Stevie will spare us this go round.

You all know I would never even consider doing such an awful thing...
Posted by: RayW, February 21st, 2011, 3:02pm; Reply: 174
I've got boggarts chasing Stephen Hawking in an electric wheelchair through an abandoned house.

Poor Steve snags his head on a rusty nail hanging out of a door frame as he wizzes by.

The boggarts stop to lick the gouted blood off the floor as Steve makes his daring escape.

But then the scallywayg poop monster catches him at the bottom of the stairs where he fell down.

Wanna hear what he sounds like getting chomped up?

(Ray slides left palm beneath right armpit, elbow crooked).
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), February 21st, 2011, 3:06pm; Reply: 175
Ray, please get a refill on the Ritelin...


Phil
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 21st, 2011, 3:09pm; Reply: 176

Quoted from bert

The horror challenges are always quite large.  I've gotten a sense of it over the years, and I can tell you now this will crack 50 easy -- even without the double-dippers.

I don't think so. Don hasn't mentioned it on the home page. I think that's where we get a lot of new people entering scripts.

To you new guys out there that are taking part, just so you know, receiving feedback and giving nothing in return is hated even more than entering a pisstake. If you enter a script, be sure to read other entries and make comments.

And yes, PISSTAKE is an original SS word...forgot who came up with it though, but we're keeping it.  :)
Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), February 21st, 2011, 3:18pm; Reply: 177
Stevie came up with pisstake and it has an Aussie etymology.
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), February 21st, 2011, 3:21pm; Reply: 178
Andrew used it here, first, on 6/11/09.  There's the thread.


Phil
Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), February 21st, 2011, 3:29pm; Reply: 179
Always thought it was stevie...but he probably just  brought the term to the OWC.  And the word has been around and not just on SS.  Seems like it's used a bit with sports.  Since Andrew used it, it's probably British - not Aussie.    
Posted by: James McClung, February 21st, 2011, 3:50pm; Reply: 180
Isn't taking the pis typical British/Aussie slang, not even exclusive to sports? Somebody just put a noun spin on it. I wouldn't say anyone made it up.
Posted by: jwent6688, February 21st, 2011, 3:57pm; Reply: 181

Quoted from Grandma Bear
To you new guys out there that are taking part, just so you know, receiving feedback and giving nothing in return is hated even more than entering a pisstake. If you enter a script, be sure to read other entries and make comments.


I shall rain down a shitstorm of firelit gumballs upon any newbie who posts a script and doesn't comment. Unless their script is good. Then I will say your script is good, but you're still an asshole.

Did that sound intimadating? A bit drunk.

James

Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), February 21st, 2011, 4:02pm; Reply: 182

Quoted from James McClung
Isn't taking the pis typical British/Aussie slang, not even exclusive to sports? Somebody just put a noun spin on it. I wouldn't say anyone made it up.


You are correct - though it is British.  I figured pisstake was an Australian spin on the saying but I don't think so now. I think pisstake is British too.
Posted by: RayW, February 21st, 2011, 4:11pm; Reply: 183
Never heard the term 'pisstake' before, but I don't want to submit one, and certainly not more than one!

And yes, PISSTAKE is an original SS word...forgot who came up with it though, but we're keeping it.  

Stevie came up with pisstake and it has an Aussie etymology.

Andrew used it here, first, on 6/11/09.  There's the thread.

Always thought it was stevie...but he probably just  brought the term to the OWC.  And the word has been around and not just on SS.  Seems like it's used a bit with sports.  Since Andrew used it, it's probably British - not Aussie.    

Isn't taking the pis typical British/Aussie slang, not even exclusive to sports? Somebody just put a noun spin on it. I wouldn't say anyone made it up.



My God.
You folks will spend umpteen calories on keystrokes and synapse leaps before taking a moment for elementary research:

http://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&site=webhp&q=full+moonlight&aq=f&aqi=g3g-m1g-v6&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&cad=cbv#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&site=webhp&q=origin+pisstake+piss-take&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.1,or.&fp=681127d0c6f645aa

BTW:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=ritelen
How about...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritalin




At mountaintop a Anthropophagi football team urinates while guzzling victory mead.

Downstream a wailing Bean Nighe with a head cold washes clothes, unaware of what she's doing.

Urisk walks by, chuckles then keeps on his way to go play cards with Fear Liath and the bogeymen.

THP! THP! THP! goes the scallywayg poop monster as he... it shuffles through the yellow, red and orange river in the other direction to go have tea with the Queen.

Mountaintop Muryans yell at the giant Anthropophagi "How long's that piss-take?!"
Posted by: leitskev, February 21st, 2011, 4:12pm; Reply: 184
     
Found this online:
pisstake

An adjective describing something which is ridiculously easy.
That exam was a pisstake.

I can tell you this too: I can make a drink that will taste like a pisstake. But I would say there is no such thing as a pisstake shot. All shots are good!
Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), February 21st, 2011, 4:17pm; Reply: 185

Quoted from RayW
My God.
You folks will spend umpteen calories on keystrokes and synapse leaps before taking a moment for elementary research:


We have something called history and sometimes that usurps Google.  
Posted by: RayW, February 21st, 2011, 4:20pm; Reply: 186
We have something called history and sometimes that usurps Google.  

Awww!
That's sooo sweet.

Ask Don if he'll replace the "The February 2011 One Week Challenge Has Begun! Scripts due here by 2/25 at 11:59 pm est" banner with that after the challenge!  :)

Seriously.
I like it.
Really.
Posted by: B.C., February 21st, 2011, 4:31pm; Reply: 187
Being English, "Pisstake","Are you taking the piss?", "Don't take the piss" etc are phrases I use everyday.

They can used for a variety of different situations -

"Pisstake" (A comedic/satirical impression or skit designed to mock something or someone, usually in a sarcastic fashion). or sometimes: (Somebody wins an award when they clearly dont deserve it, while a nominee - that popular opinion decrees did deserve it - leaves with nothing).

"Are you taking the piss?" (Are you mocking me?)

This can also used in serious scenarios: (Are you taking liberties with my good nature, thus taking advantage of me?)

"Don't take the Piss" (Don't mock me, I'm actually really nice and you are being cruel just to make yourself feel better about your useless existence).  

This is also often used in the workplace (Please pull your weight and do some work, your lazyness is making you unpopular with your colleagues, who are carrying you. This is not fair as you get paid the same wage as they do. You also could try wearing an anti-perspirant from time to time).  

"He/She/They took the piss" is often used when discussing sport - (the pisstaker(s) was/were rather brilliant - they made the opposition look like fools with their vast superiority.)

A piece of piss is a phrase that describes a task that was easy to accomplish.
Posted by: stevie, February 21st, 2011, 4:51pm; Reply: 188
Yeah, I thought I'd introduced 'pisstake' to the SS pantheon but Phil's research shows Andrew mentioned it first! Good stuff!

I did probably get off British TV long ago and just used it in the Aussie way.

And i promise no pisstake for this OWC - actually the one I did for Halloween I submitted it as a normal short.

After this OWC is over, we could have a PTOWC, using Rick's theme - the potential for comic mayhem with all the mythical things is there for the (piss)taking...

Also Phil, you mentioned a few pages back about envisoning a script in 5 pages instaed of 8 or so, to make it tighter? Excellent advice and I may try and do that.
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 21st, 2011, 6:00pm; Reply: 189
I'm going with the Kraken and bigfoot combo, maybe a side of aliens.  Hopefully no one else is going this route...
Posted by: fatjesus83, February 22nd, 2011, 11:09am; Reply: 190
Just new to this site and hoping to have my script finished by Friday!!

Just a quick question, I haven't seem my British/Celtic myth in the list and wanted to know if it wont be accepted if this is the case?
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), February 22nd, 2011, 11:12am; Reply: 191
You must use a myth/mythos/mythic creature on the list.  Them's the rules.


Phil
Posted by: fatjesus83, February 22nd, 2011, 11:19am; Reply: 192
Ok just to clarify,

If I were to do a script about a family of cannibals would they have to resemble the description of the Anthropophagi or would cannibalism cover that myth?

Sorry to sound like a bore but think I have a decent script here but no mention of Anthropophagi as of yet!!

Sorry again!!
Posted by: Eoin, February 22nd, 2011, 11:23am; Reply: 193

Quoted from mcornetto
Always thought it was stevie...but he probably just  brought the term to the OWC.  And the word has been around and not just on SS.  Seems like it's used a bit with sports.  Since Andrew used it, it's probably British - not Aussie.    


'Taking the piss', 'extracting the urine' and 'pisstake' are used in the UK and Ireland and to a less common degree New Zealand and Australia.
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), February 22nd, 2011, 11:25am; Reply: 194

Quoted from fatjesus83
If I were to do a script about a family of cannibals would they have to resemble the description of the Anthropophagi or would cannibalism cover that myth?

Sorry to sound like a bore but think I have a decent script here but no mention of Anthropophagi as of yet!!


You should imply that these cannibals are Anthro...

I'm assuming that you started writing this after the challenge was announced.  You're not supposed to submit previously-written scripts, even if they fit the theme/genre.


Phil

Posted by: fatjesus83, February 22nd, 2011, 11:35am; Reply: 195
I haven't started writing it yet which is why I'm trying to make sure what I'm planning on writing will stay within the guidelines!!

Cheers
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), February 22nd, 2011, 12:13pm; Reply: 196
You can just imply it.


Phil
Posted by: Mr.Ripley, February 22nd, 2011, 6:28pm; Reply: 197
Good luck guys and gals who plan to enter.  I'm not. I have alot of scripts to work on. Would try to read all of them.  
Posted by: leitskev, February 22nd, 2011, 9:13pm; Reply: 198
http://www.dcshorts.com/film/ScreenAngst_0907.pdf

Found this today, an article by a film short "judge" describing his experience.
Posted by: leitskev, February 22nd, 2011, 9:23pm; Reply: 199
Posted by: RayW, February 24th, 2011, 2:30pm; Reply: 200
I've an idea for another story that involves the use of malicious black magic.
However, despite a sensible amount of investigating for actual historical acts of such I can't find any.

Black magic this, black magic that, they did black magic, they were accused of black magic, there are laws being passed against those that persecute those accused of black magic - but not a single reference to "They turned my child into a goat with black magic!" or "My loving wife was turned to stone by black magic!"

Nothing.

Nada.

Zilch.

Can't find a simple list of "Don't let those warlocks kick sand in your face! Look at what you can do if you only knew black magic!"
Not even at the school for it. http://www.blackmagick.com/index.html
I mean... for really.
Before I send any money I want to see a course syllabus or something.
- Turn your enemies into worms!
- Impregnate the wives of your enemies with goat babies!
- How to make the dead rise in your neighbor's closet!


You know?

Any of you guys out there find any decent web links for something I can use?
I hate to just make up dumb sh!t when there's all this talk about BLACK MAGIC implying there actually is some going on.

Thanks!
Posted by: screenrider (Guest), February 24th, 2011, 2:38pm; Reply: 201
Here's a link for ya, Ray.

http://www.wtf.com
Posted by: RayW, February 24th, 2011, 3:08pm; Reply: 202
Thanks, Mike.

Sorry. They didn't have anything.
In fact, according to their cloud chart of most searched for subjects, BOOBS, had more blabbin' than boobin' going on.
http://forums.wtf.com/search.php?do=process
Lame.

So far, this is as good as it gets:
http://www.black-magic-rescue.com/symptoms-of-black-magic.html
Symptoms of Black Magic/Demonic Possession: Advanced Phase

In advanced stages of Black Magic, there is usually Entity Possession/Spirit Attachment. Demonic possession and spirit attachment are very different. Demonic possession is much more serious. The symptoms of black magic listed below also fit symptoms of Demonic Possession, in combination with all the above symptoms.

Critical illness/possibly of more than one family member/allopathic doctors cannot find the source of the illness.
Medicines do not work, and allopathic medicine does not work, probably makes them worse, confusing doctors or they are telling you there is nothing wrong.
Cancer.
Suicidal attempts/Family members contemplating suicide/Overwhelming impulses to self-torture with suicidal or homicidal risk.
Total self destruction through substance abuse/addictions.
Ravishing hunger, hungry again not long after eating.
Heart attacks/intense heart pain that feel like heart attacks, and come suddenly/can be several in one day.
Incredible thirst, possibly caused also by stress.
Your waking state is like a horror movie every minute with no sense of relief except short periods while sleeping. Waking is torture.
You feel it is difficult to come back to your body after you have been sleeping. You feel you must fight to get back in your body or wake up.
You experience entities or energies trying to attack or kill you while sleeping. You remember running from them.
You see dark shadows in your room/around you when you try to sleep.
Slashes/cuts/claw marks on your body when you wake from sleeping.

Symptoms of Black Magic/Demonic Possession in Women:
Bruises around your reproductive area when you wake from sleeping.
Dreams of being raped or having sexual intercourse with someone or something else while you are asleep, possibly resulting in a real orgasm.
Erratic menstrual periods, either no period at all, or very irregular, or excruciatingly painful periods that are completely debilitating.
Unable to conceive children/barren because of blocks caused by magic or possession.
Recurring miscarriages, even though there are no physical problems.
Irritation in vagina/feelings of yeast infections/pain and burning/Leukorrhea.



Um... that's pretty much just regular, normal medical sh!t.

I'm looking for some real live SNAKES POURING OUT THEIR ORIFICES! or LIQUEFY THEIR EYES! sort of cr@p.
Not... yeast infections.  (Is there an emoticon available for me staring at a person as if they're stupid?)

"BY THE POWERS OF BEELZEBUB, I AFFLICT THEE WITH A... YEAST INFECTION!!!
It's a really pernicious and nasty one.
You know, where your scratching all day long.
Even in front of your boss!"


That's right. Satan's gonna put down his paper and put his house shoes on, gonna schlep all the way up here from h3ll to give your nasty supervisor a case of crotch rot.
Puh-leeeze.
And we burned at the stake people for this sh!t? (That's a rhetorical, BTW).

It's irritating reading about all these seemingly sensible people getting all in an uproar over BLAAAACK MAAAAGIC! when none of them can actually cite a single activity.

Sigh.

C'mon, folks!
Gimme something useful.


Thanks again, Mike.

Bert!
Whatchagot, Doc?
Posted by: screenrider (Guest), February 24th, 2011, 3:16pm; Reply: 203

Quoted from RayW
C'mon, folks!
Gimme something useful.


Check with Bert.  His Soulshadows script dealt with Black Magic.  Can't remember the name of it, but it's floating around here somewhere.

Posted by: James McClung, February 24th, 2011, 3:34pm; Reply: 204

Quoted from RayW
C'mon, folks!
Gimme something useful.


I think you're going to be disappointed, Ray. I've done a fair share of research on the subject (for an unrelated project) and I think real world magic(k) really isn't what most people think it is. You could even argue it's not actually supernatural. Don't take my word for it though. I'm no expert and there's still a lot I don't know or haven't fully grasped.

Honestly, I think the kind of stuff you're looking for was made up by the people responsible for combating it. Frankly, I think that'd be a lot more interesting a concept to explore. Or you could always just go ahead and write a script about goat babies and turning people into worms with no research whatsoever. I'd read it, for sure.
Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), February 24th, 2011, 3:39pm; Reply: 205
Posted by: RayW, February 24th, 2011, 5:35pm; Reply: 206
James -
I think you're going to be disappointed, Ray.
Oh, I am.
I'm kinduva wiener about keeping things legit.
If Spielberg wants to have heads melt when the ark of the covenant opens that's one thing, but I don't wanna read no OWC of water goblins copulating with mountain sirens.

Sometimes move magic is just stupid.
A little is okay, but...

Or you could always just go ahead and write a script about goat babies and turning people into worms with no research whatsoever. I'd read it, for sure.
LOL! Dude, you ain't right.
Don't tempt me, you sirenous succubus!
I just might.
Gonna border on a pisstake.


MC -
Wow.
THAT should be the source material a 7WC. (Probably better than that DOUBT rubbish.)
What a real horror story.
And surely there are hundreds if not thousands of other stories better and worse.

LOL moment: "The exorcisms had been so appreciated by the public of Loudun that they became a type of tourist attraction at the convent. Nuns would lift their skirts and beg for sexual attention, beat their heads, walk on their hands, and use obscene language."

Incredible.
Ain't nothing new under the sun.
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 24th, 2011, 6:33pm; Reply: 207
This is real world Black Magic, it's used to summon Lucifer (or Venus depending on your beliefs):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Grimoire

Here's the text:

http://www.esotericarchives.com/solomon/grand.htm

This is a Grimoire commonly used in Satanism:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimorium_Verum

This is a book commonly used in Ceremonial Magick that is potentially used for Black Magick,:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goetia

This is what most black magic type films are based on. It purports to be the be the magick Solomon used to build his Temple, but historians say it's written much later than that. It follows a Biblical Hierarchy of Demons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lesser_Key_of_Solomon

You'll probably recognise a lot of the names from various things. A lot are old Pagan Gods that have been "demonised" eg Baal.  In general you have to evoke the lesser ones first and ask for their loyalty and build up through the hierarchy until you get Lucifer himself/herself to pledge allegiance. They provide familiars and teach you the secrets of life.

That page also references The Scared Magic of Abramelin the Mage...which is considered powerful enough to potentially create problems by just owning a copy.

Here's some real life incidents.

http://www.mysteriousbritain.co.uk/england/occult/black-magic-in-clapham-and-sussex.html

http://www.mysteriousbritain.co.uk/england/greater-london/hauntings/the-highgate-vampire-how-it-all-began-by-david-farrant.html

This is now an official religion, but its followers tend to be very dark individuals indeed...much darker than Satanists for example. I wouldn;t write about them though, they are easily upset and can make your life a living hell, quite literally.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelema
Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), February 24th, 2011, 6:35pm; Reply: 208
Now is anyone going to ask Rick how he happens to know so much about the subject? ;-)
Posted by: jwent6688, February 24th, 2011, 7:13pm; Reply: 209

Quoted from mcornetto
Now is anyone going to ask Rick how he happens to know so much about the subject? ;-)


No shit. How am I gonna impress this guy with horror???

Was fearing i wouldn't be in, til an idea came to me today. I'm on page 7. Pretty confident it has some decent chill to it and has a bit of originality. I think I can finish by tomorrow night. Done for tonight, enjoying some libations.

So who else is in? I know Phil, Ryan, Shawn, and Ray are. Screenrider promised me that his script will blow mine out of the water. So I guess that means he's in.

Who else?

James
Posted by: Scoob, February 24th, 2011, 7:13pm; Reply: 210
Witchfinder General is the first film I think of that deals with how savage and barbaric these witch-hunters were. I'm not a huge fan of remakes for the sake of remakes, but I think an updated version of that concept could really be interesting.

Mind you, it would probably end up like the Wicker Man  :(
Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), February 24th, 2011, 7:25pm; Reply: 211
The Devils is older.  It's a film based on story in the link I sent to Ray.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066993/

There is also Crowhaven Farm, if you count TV movies.  This one scared the heck out of me when I was a kid.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065594/



And if you count plays there is also The Crucible which dramatizes the Salem witch trials and is older yet.
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 24th, 2011, 7:26pm; Reply: 212
I'm in but I still have n;t had any time to research or write a single word or idea.

I'll get it done though and it will ROCK!!!!
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 24th, 2011, 7:27pm; Reply: 213

Quoted from mcornetto
The Devils is older.  It's a film based on story in the link I sent to Ray.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066993/

There is also Crowhaven Farm, if you count TV movies.  This one scared the heck out of me when I was a kid.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065594/



And if you count plays there is also The Crucible which dramatizes the Salem witch trials and is older yet.


Is that the one where they crush a woman to death with stones?

Saw a film with that in it as a kid and it stayed with me for life, but I never knew what it was. It looked very much liked that.
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 24th, 2011, 7:28pm; Reply: 214
I've read 7so far so I know there will at least be that many. Won't tell who wrote them though.  ;D
Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), February 24th, 2011, 7:29pm; Reply: 215

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films


Is that the one where they crush a woman to death with stones?

Saw a film with that in it as a kid and it stayed with me for life, but I never knew what it was. It looked very much liked that.


That's the one.
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 24th, 2011, 7:38pm; Reply: 216

Quoted from mcornetto


That's the one.


I've wondered what that was for YEARS!
Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), February 24th, 2011, 7:41pm; Reply: 217

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films


I've wondered what that was for YEARS!


You can find it online.  I've watched it recently and it's still kind of creepy.  Not as scary as when I was a kid but creepy nonetheless.    
Posted by: Scoob, February 24th, 2011, 7:52pm; Reply: 218

Quoted from mcornetto


You can find it online.  I've watched it recently and it's still kind of creepy.  Not as scary as when I was a kid but creepy nonetheless.    


The first thing I was gonna ask about that clip was - does she get stoned to death at the end! I've always remembered that scene , but could never think of the title.

I remember The Devils too, but it's been an age since I last watched that one.

Posted by: screenrider (Guest), February 24th, 2011, 8:21pm; Reply: 219

Quoted from jwent6688
Screenrider promised me that his script will blow mine out of the water. So I guess that means he's in.


I aim to keep that promise!  :D

Posted by: Dreamscale, February 24th, 2011, 8:34pm; Reply: 220
Get ready, peeps!!!!!!  My script is going to blow all the other weakass competition INTO the water.

Hope I can get it started tonight.  Hopefully a few drinks will help...
Posted by: Ledbetter (Guest), February 24th, 2011, 8:42pm; Reply: 221
Jeff,

You mean to tell me, you havent even started yet?

Pull that pencil out of your A$$ and get on it. I don't want to hear "oh I only had one night to write it" crap.

By the way, send it over when you're done. I can't wait to read it.

Shawn.....><


Posted by: Dreamscale, February 24th, 2011, 8:55pm; Reply: 222
HaHa...yeah, maybe you're right...my ass has been quite sore lately...maybe it is a pencil up there.

I'll probably have less then 1 night to write this masterpiece, but rest assured, it will indeed be a masterpiece!

Just making final decisions on which mythology to go with.  It's down to about 3, I think, and any of them will fit into my plans.  I'm going to stick with exactly what Rick is after...low budget, easy to film (for the most part), with stunning locales, somewhere in Scotland, Ireland, or Britain.  I'm even going to double space around my Slugs...Balt will be thrilled and proud!

You guys and gals just get ready...I wouldn't even mention it if it weren't going to be HUGE!

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Posted by: jwent6688, February 24th, 2011, 9:04pm; Reply: 223

Quoted from Dreamscale
I'm going to stick with exactly what Rick is after...low budget, easy to film (for the most part), with stunning locales, somewhere in Scotland, Ireland, or Britain.


Shit. mine takes place in Durango Colorado...

James

Posted by: Mr. Blonde, February 24th, 2011, 9:16pm; Reply: 224
Where it's written can be adjusted... =)

I plan on not setting mine across the pond, but it could be easily filmed that way. So long as I finish in time. I don't even have Final Draft on my computer at the moment.

Damn it.

Doing my best. Granted it's only about .036% of Jeff's worst, but still... =)
Posted by: RayW, February 24th, 2011, 9:19pm; Reply: 225
Rick -

FAN-DAM-TASTIC!
Thank you.

This stuff requires a ho-lotta research just to make it look legit.
Goodness gracious.

I'm surprised at the extent to which it's so Christian/Hebrew/Jewish/God/Devil centric
Thought it would be more extra-Christian God oriented.

Love how all the demons are animal composites of regionally known beasts from the times. Nothing they'd have no idea about, say animals unique to Australia, Oceania or the Americas.
Nothing recently extinct.

Demons are only comprised of animals A. European, North African or Asian, and B. not recently extinct or extinct for quite some time.

Hmm...

LMAO that you can get The Book of the Law: Liber Al Vel Legis on Kindle for $2.99:
http://www.amazon.com/Galloway-Books-Occult-Library-ebook/dp/B001684RQS/ref=sr_1_1_title_1_ke?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1298599099&sr=1-1

Lots of the others, too.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=The+Key+of+Solomon+The+King&x=0&y=0

A fool and his money...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0935214003/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&qid=1298596858&sr=1-1&condition=used

The two "news" articles were great, as well.
Liked the second "Vampire" one where the idiot author gets himself arrested.
Niiiiiiice.


Good GREAT poop!
Thanks again!
Posted by: Ledbetter (Guest), February 24th, 2011, 9:41pm; Reply: 226
Ummm...Ray

Are you going to write something?

Shawn.....><
Posted by: Baltis. (Guest), February 24th, 2011, 9:46pm; Reply: 227
In retrospect there is no way my script would've made page cut...  I finished my script up last night at 23 pages; a rewrite tonight will get it down to about 17 I hope.  Not gonna brag about it too much, but I'm really excited about it.  Really, really excited about it.  I did a register for copyright today on a 1st draft, that's how excited I am about it.

Entering it into Shriekfest for sure.  It won't be apart of the OWC, but I'll be tossing it up here for feedback leading up to early entry on march 20th.
Posted by: Ledbetter (Guest), February 24th, 2011, 9:49pm; Reply: 228
Best of luck Balt

It sounds like you nailed a great script.

Shawn.....><
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 24th, 2011, 10:01pm; Reply: 229
I for one, am very, VERY disappointed, Balt.  Seriously. I was really looking forward to what you were going to spit out.  Glad you're happy with it, but again, I'm really bummed you couldn't put together a 10-12 pager for this awesome challenge.

BUT, in a way, maybe I'm happy, as that's 1 less polished, Pro writer that I don't need to worry about now...unless of course, you're fucking with us and already have a kick ass script.

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

You guys hopefully know that I'm just fucking around with what I'm saying here.  I do plan on having a rock solid entry ready by tomorrow night at midnight, EST, but as of right now, it's at ZERO pages, ZERO words, and  ZERO research.

As I always like to quote from the great Hooper, "Don't wait on me, damnit!".  HaHa...I doubt that's even exactly the line, but in my head, that's what I remember..and use over and over again.

Best of luck, everyone!  Hope to see alot of great entries.
Posted by: RayW, February 24th, 2011, 10:07pm; Reply: 230

Quoted from Ledbetter
Ummm...Ray

Are you going to write something?

Shawn.....><


Got one down solid, although it might fail one aspect of the challenge's criteria.
Will probably pound out another tonight and tomorrow.
Have ideas for about ten others.

Happy with yours, frog-licker?  ;)
Posted by: Baltis. (Guest), February 24th, 2011, 10:14pm; Reply: 231
I did write it along side the OWC, and it did start out as a OWC -- Even after the kids bit was green lit.  So I am going to sub it to the site tomorrow as I would have if it were apart of the challenge.  Just know it's not apart of the challenge if you decide to check it out.

It's just the deeper I got into it the more I wanted to flesh it out and add some more substance to it.  When it was all said and done I was sitting at 23 pages going, there is no way I can cut 13 pages off this.  5? Sure.  6? maybe.  But not 13.  I am very excited to have you all read it, though.

This is the line I used from day one to keep me motivated

"No one is killed on screen but make'em SCREAM!"

I tend to come up with lines like that for most of my work to give me a theme or a color to work off of.  This way if I put the script aside for awhile I can easily jump back into it by reciting the line that embodies it most.  I started doing that about 4 years ago when I realized that vast amount of unfinished work I had laying around.
Posted by: Ledbetter (Guest), February 24th, 2011, 10:18pm; Reply: 232
Ray,

Man I am so glad you have one in this.

Send it over if you want read. You gat my email.

About mine? It's Okay!

Shawn.....><
Posted by: Mr. Blonde, February 24th, 2011, 11:03pm; Reply: 233
If for some reason, the script goes over the 10-page mark, how far over could it go before it bends the rule so much that it breaks off?

Or, is the 10-page rule set in stone?

Do you think I could get two more pages from it?
Posted by: khamanna, February 24th, 2011, 11:08pm; Reply: 234
I remember Rick saying it's okay to go 2 pages over the limit. If he doesn't see you post you can pm him. Or Pia maybe.
Posted by: Ledbetter (Guest), February 24th, 2011, 11:17pm; Reply: 235

Anyone else notice the MOD STARS in PIA'S  AVATAR?????

They look GREAT!

Shawn.....><
Posted by: Mr. Blonde, February 24th, 2011, 11:20pm; Reply: 236
It's always polite to ask. =)

He probably did and I probably missed it, looking through el 16 pages. If not, it'd be ok. 24 hours of editing = the best story ever.

Besides, my October OWC was very well-received and I wrote it in about an hour, so who knows?
Posted by: RayW, February 24th, 2011, 11:38pm; Reply: 237
Page two of this thread.
About half a page down.


Quoted from Scar Tissue Films
Around ten minutes or less, but a couple of pages extra isn't going to be a deal breaker.


Posted by: Ryan1, February 24th, 2011, 11:38pm; Reply: 238
All finished editing.  Now all I need is a logline.  Looking forward to reading some good scripts.  Any predictions on number of entries?  I'll guess around 40.  Seems like a popular theme this time around.
Posted by: Mr. Blonde, February 24th, 2011, 11:42pm; Reply: 239

Quoted from RayW
Page two of this thread.
About half a page down.


Thank you, Ray, for the specifics.

And, Ryan, I highly doubt it'll be that high unless we have a lot of people doing more than 1. I'll put it at 19 due to the interesting (not bad) choice for the OWC.
Posted by: Sandra Elstree., February 24th, 2011, 11:48pm; Reply: 240

Quoted from mcornetto
The Devils is older.  It's a film based on story in the link I sent to Ray.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066993/

There is also Crowhaven Farm, if you count TV movies.  This one scared the heck out of me when I was a kid.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065594/



And if you count plays there is also The Crucible which dramatizes the Salem witch trials and is older yet.


This really freaks me out. For people who don't know me, I've never been an overdone movie or T.V. addict. My calling to Simplyscripts is a an interesting story that doesn't include a manic desire for unraveling plot.

And here, I find the show that scared the hell out of me and I never knew what it was called.

You can call me crazy, but i felt the pain of being crushed. I felt like I'd been there and I was only what? Nine years old? I'm not sure.  

For a long time I had remembered this scene of being crushed, but I didn't know the movie's name.

I don't know whether to be thankful or frightened. For this to show up after "a lifetime", makes me wonder why.

Sandra

Posted by: Scoob, February 24th, 2011, 11:54pm; Reply: 241

Quoted from Dreamscale
I for one, am very, VERY disappointed, Balt.  Seriously. I was really looking forward to what you were going to spit out.  Glad you're happy with it, but again, I'm really bummed you couldn't put together a 10-12 pager for this awesome challenge.

BUT, in a way, maybe I'm happy, as that's 1 less polished, Pro writer that I don't need to worry about now...unless of course, you're fucking with us and already have a kick ass script.

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

You guys hopefully know that I'm just fucking around with what I'm saying here.  I do plan on having a rock solid entry ready by tomorrow night at midnight, EST, but as of right now, it's at ZERO pages, ZERO words, and  ZERO research.

As I always like to quote from the great Hooper, "Don't wait on me, damnit!".  HaHa...I doubt that's even exactly the line, but in my head, that's what I remember..and use over and over again.

Best of luck, everyone!  Hope to see alot of great entries.


Hey, I'm with you on that.
I am kinda gutted Balt might not be entering because he does write some great stuff and it's always fun to read and not to feed his ego any more, but to learn from. The guy does kick out some half decent stuff when he posts.
I'm in a similar position to you Jeff in that I've only had tonight to really try and put something together. I love the subject, it's right up my street and is a one off so I really don't wanna miss it but at the same time it's come at an awkward time.

But no excuses.

Posted by: Sandra Elstree., February 25th, 2011, 12:29am; Reply: 242

Quoted from Baltis.
In retrospect there is no way my script would've made page cut...  I finished my script up last night at 23 pages; a rewrite tonight will get it down to about 17 I hope.  Not gonna brag about it too much, but I'm really excited about it.  Really, really excited about it.  I did a register for copyright today on a 1st draft, that's how excited I am about it.

Entering it into Shriekfest for sure.  It won't be apart of the OWC, but I'll be tossing it up here for feedback leading up to early entry on march 20th.


G-d bless you, Balt. I love you so much. Regarding the page count for this OWC...

I did so much cut and add, I must be now walking into where my character walks out.

It's so intriguing to hang out with people that I feel I know. Don't know what else to say but "Thank you.". I'm reaching for some bread to dip in gravy.

Sandra

Posted by: Ryan1, February 25th, 2011, 12:31am; Reply: 243

Quoted from Mr. Blonde


And, Ryan, I highly doubt it'll be that high unless we have a lot of people doing more than 1. I'll put it at 19 due to the interesting (not bad) choice for the OWC.


It'll be a lot more than 19, Blonde.  I can guarantee you that.  There was 44 for the October OWC.  And this horror theme is actually broader.  Plus, Rick ok'd multiple submissions.
Posted by: Sandra Elstree., February 25th, 2011, 12:50am; Reply: 244

Quoted from Ryan1


It'll be a lot more than 19, Blonde.  I can guarantee you that.  There was 44 for the October OWC.  And this horror theme is actually broader.  Plus, Rick ok'd multiple submissions.


I will be interested to see if anyone does a Part Two submission. I considered that as cheating, but I do have a part two that managed to happen first.

Often I've found I write backwards. This was no different and behold, my two was one.

My first deliberations were much more in line with the horror that was requested in the challenge; however, on the emotional cliff, I've found arms that save me.

Sandra
Posted by: Scoob, February 25th, 2011, 12:50am; Reply: 245
OK, please forgive me for asking this a little late in the game but I meant to ask this a couple of hours ago but got sidetracked.

Does this have to be 100% accurate to those Demons described and does it 100% have to stick by their fairy-tale rules and regulations?

I'm only asking this because the way I see it is you are looking for a horror film that uses some of the qualities of these demons, not necessarily the actual physical side or really the core of who they are. An interpretation of them in modern times?

If so, cool.

If not, and this is just restricted by mythology, then I'm definitly out, too.



Posted by: Sandra Elstree., February 25th, 2011, 12:55am; Reply: 246

Quoted from Scoob
OK, please forgive me for asking this a little late in the game but I meant to ask this a couple of hours ago but got sidetracked.

Does this have to be 100% accurate to those Demons described and does it 100% have to stick by their fairy-tale rules and regulations?


I'm not the authorized person to answer the question, but common sense tells me, "No".

If we all stuck to straight parameters every go around, there'd be no sense in The Go.

Sandra
Posted by: Scoob, February 25th, 2011, 1:07am; Reply: 247

Quoted from Sandra Elstree.


I'm not the authorized person to answer the question, but common sense tells me, "No".

If we all stuck to straight parameters every go around, there'd be no sense in The Go.

Sandra


Thanks Sandra,

I kinda got the feeling it was a free for all but just wanted to be assured, heh.

Thanks for quick reply

Malc
Posted by: screenrider (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 1:19am; Reply: 248

Quoted from Scoob
Does this have to be 100% accurate to those Demons described and does it 100% have to stick by their fairy-tale rules and regulations?

I'm only asking this because the way I see it is you are looking for a horror film that uses some of the qualities of these demons, not necessarily the actual physical side or really the core of who they are. An interpretation of them in modern times?



This might help...


Quoted from Grandma Bear
Writers are free to modernise, modify and combine ideas.
Posted by: Scoob, February 25th, 2011, 1:26am; Reply: 249

Quoted from screenrider


This might help...



I read that but as this thread has unfolded it seemed more like people were locked onto how these myths were formed and I wonderered if that had kind of changed the initial direction.

As far as I see it, making shit up is good.
Make mythology instead of rewriting it.
Posted by: stevie, February 25th, 2011, 5:33am; Reply: 250
Its 830 pm Friday night here  in Oz. Have just finished my entry.

It cam ein at about 12 pages and i was gonna start trimming but just read that its ok for a couple of extra ones. I will go through and try and cut if needed.

I'm quietly pleased with mine. It came out pretty much as I envisioned it, which sometimes doesn't happen!

I'll submit in the morning as the Net is dodgy here tonight and i don't wanna lose the fucker in mid-post!!

I need a title and will sleep on it.

Jeff, if you don't end up entering a script, I will raise airfare by selling my body (again) and fly to AZ and WHUP YOUR FUCKING ARSE (not your lame girly ass, but your ARSE!!!!)

Love stevie
Posted by: RayW, February 25th, 2011, 7:40am; Reply: 251

Quoted from Scoob
I read that but as this thread has unfolded it seemed more like people were locked onto how these myths were formed and I wonderered if that had kind of changed the initial direction.

As far as I see it, making shit up is good.
Make mythology instead of rewriting it.


I tried to keep it in context of contemporary monsters.
- Would you have Frankenstein's monster sucking blood from busty women?
- Freddy Kreuger in hockey mask with chainsaw?
- Godzilla climbing the World Trade center to rescue Laura Croft?

Um...

Michael Crichton buffet-style picked his critters for JURASSIC PARK, but used the mosquito thing to explain away the anachronistic co-habitation of Dilophosaurus (193 mya), Brachiosaurus (154 to 153 mya), Velociraptors (83 to 70 mya), and Tyrannosaurus Tex (67 to 65.5 mya).
Even still he kept their estimated characteristic behaviors aligned with reason, thus no predatory Brachiosaurs.

That's kinda why I went back and grouped the challenge myths by localities first.
http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1298084400/s-92/highlight-/#num92

Although modern transportation has co-mingled the distinct pre-UK cultures, odds are the second century AD Brittanys had little working knowledge of Shetlander mythologies due to simple geography.

However...
Lettuce be frank: the primary consumer of cinematic horror isn't the nit-picky fruitcake historian.
Film makers ALWAYS apply movie magic to historical accuracy.
Sometimes they drown it in movie magic.

So...

Have your witches use magic swords to command siren hordes to attack the Cornish highland asswangs.

Gopherit.
Just as long as there boobies and blood no one will really care.

:)

At least no one reasonable.
Posted by: Scoob, February 25th, 2011, 9:38am; Reply: 252
No dig intended at you there, Ray.

Doing research is a must and you've compiled a helpful ammount of info in this thread.

I was just implying it might not be a bad thing to drift from the source material and "add" to it rather than slave over hard facts.

Look forward to reading the entries, good luck to everyone :)
Posted by: JonnyBoy, February 25th, 2011, 9:45am; Reply: 253
I haven't had the time to come up with something this week, and while I hate to miss out on such a great opportunity I don't want to submit something rushed and sub-par (like I did in the last OWC). It'd only waste everyone's time.

Good luck to everyone who enters, and hope Rick finds a gem amongst your entries!
Posted by: reuel51, February 25th, 2011, 10:00am; Reply: 254
Well, I just entered my first OWC! We'll see how this goes. I'm looking forward to reading what everyone came up with.
Posted by: RayW, February 25th, 2011, 10:18am; Reply: 255

Quoted from Scoob
No dig intended at you there, Ray.
I was just implying it might not be a bad thing to drift from the source material and "add" to it rather than slave over hard facts.


Oh! Certainly no offense or threat felt here!
I'm just casting one perspective, where either studios and audiences might balk - and why I asked right out of the gate if those folks indigenous to the region were familiar with these things.
To varying degrees - no, they're not.

Yeah, certainly, legends and mythologies evolve and change over time.
Greek mythologies were pirated by the Romans. Zeus becomes Jupiter.
Pagan celebrations were pirated by the Christians. Winter solstice celebrations became Christmas.
So "drifting" certainly has a place in the creative world of entertainment.

Frankenmyth away!

GL & Gopherit!

EDIT: In fact, I brought the broader subject up with Babz Bitela after her last Babz Buzz of when does creating that interesting plot twist go from predictable (audience goes "Ho-hum"), jump over interesting and clever (audience goes "Coooool!") and land into the land of WTF? (audience goes "WTF?!").
There's a sweet spot between the two.
I don't always know where that is.
Posted by: khamanna, February 25th, 2011, 11:09am; Reply: 256
I forgot - does Don usually start upload the same day on Friday? Just want to plan my day so I can read as these are uploaded.
Posted by: wannabe (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 11:10am; Reply: 257
Well I've had my story idea since Saturday but between my family and other crap I haven't had a moments peace.  I'm going to try and give this a shot today...before the kiddies get home from school and drive me insane.  

Looking forward to reading some great stories!!  :)
Posted by: bert, February 25th, 2011, 11:16am; Reply: 258

Quoted from khamanna
I forgot - does Don usually start upload the same day on Friday? Just want to plan my day so I can read as these are uploaded.


If past experience is any indicator, Don will load them up in batches of 5-10, starting at some completely unpredictable time on Saturday, and continuing a similar pattern every day until they have all been posted.

For those keeping count, my guess is that there will be more than 50.

And yeah, for the first time in a long time, I think I will have one amongst them.
Posted by: khamanna, February 25th, 2011, 11:21am; Reply: 259
Thanks Bert. I was kind of hoping to read them today. But that's all right. Will be on the watch for the "unpredictable time on Saturday":)
Posted by: Baltis. (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 12:22pm; Reply: 260
50 stories?  Damn... That's a sight bit more than the October OWC.  I read and commented on everyone of those scripts, so I'll work my way through these too.  Very interested to see what you all have done.
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 25th, 2011, 12:44pm; Reply: 261
I don't think there will be 50 since this was never mentioned on the home page. If there are 50, I will struggle to read them all.  15 would be nice though.
Posted by: Mr.Ripley, February 25th, 2011, 1:55pm; Reply: 262
Can't wait to read these.

I have an idea for this already but I'm not submitting in this OWC. Going to work on it a bit more.

I don't think 50 either. Maybe less than 30.
Posted by: khamanna, February 25th, 2011, 2:04pm; Reply: 263
What can be better than 50 entries! Only 60 maybe.

You got my hopes up high, bert.
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 25th, 2011, 2:08pm; Reply: 264
Count on 1 entry from this Kid!
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 25th, 2011, 2:15pm; Reply: 265
Hey, a little help needed...

I think posted a link somewhere here with an exact location that he thought could be beneficial to the writers...I didn't actually see it, but thought I read where some peeps were impressed.

Anyone know exactly where that link is?  Sure would help...

Thanks!!!

Posted by: RayW, February 25th, 2011, 2:29pm; Reply: 266
Posted by: khamanna, February 25th, 2011, 2:38pm; Reply: 267
@Jeff - do you need to see the locations again?

If yes look here:

http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1298084400/s-115/highlight-/#num115

I went to Rick's member profile and searched by his latest posts.
Posted by: Mr. Blonde, February 25th, 2011, 2:53pm; Reply: 268
Uh oh...

Half-way in and horror hasn't shown up yet. I am so fucked.

That's if I even finish in time.

I might but I'm not liking what's been written so far and no editing.

Is it possible someone who hasn't entered yet or something can check what I have so far and see what can be left out?

Thanks in advance. =)
Posted by: Baltis. (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 3:18pm; Reply: 269

Quoted from Mr. Blonde
Uh oh...

Half-way in and horror hasn't shown up yet. I am so fucked.

That's if I even finish in time.

I might but I'm not liking what's been written so far and no editing.

Is it possible someone who hasn't entered yet or something can check what I have so far and see what can be left out?

Thanks in advance. =)


Largely why I pulled out with my script -- I realized it was going to need much more substance to be told effectively.  I swapped out horror for suspense in the 1st 10 pages of the script.  In fact, nothing happens, horror-wise, until page 15.  But when it does it happens in such a visceral, ominous way that's undeniably worth the build up.

Try it, it could help out, man.
Posted by: screenrider (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 4:24pm; Reply: 270

Quoted from Baltis.
Largely why I pulled out with my script -- I realized it was going to need much more substance to be told effectively.  I swapped out horror for suspense in the 1st 10 pages of the script.  In fact, nothing happens, horror-wise, until page 15.  But when it does it happens in such a visceral, ominous way that's undeniably worth the build up.


Baltis, I say this with all due respect, but I've been around SS for nearly two years and in all that time I've read one screenplay out of you.  WTH?   Frankly, I get a litttle tired hearing you talk about this and that and then never see any results.   You're telling me you can't put together one script for this OWC?   I gotta be honest...sounds like a major cop out.

This comment is intended to inspire you.   Maybe even piss you off enough to enter something.  The day is still young.

Posted by: stevie, February 25th, 2011, 4:44pm; Reply: 271
Just submitted mine. For some erason I couldn't come up with a great title - spent the last day trying to think of one.
The eventual one I threw on just before sending to Don - its ok but...ironically, it'll probably turn out to be the title it needed anyway.

Looking forward to reading these! And hopefully, any 'ring in' writers will read more than their fair share as well...
Posted by: RayW, February 25th, 2011, 4:45pm; Reply: 272
Five bucks says it inspires rancor, instead.

Balt's not one to fight a fight he might not win at.
If he wants to lose it'll be among giants rather than men.

Just a fair guess, of course.
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 25th, 2011, 4:53pm; Reply: 273
Thank you Ray and Khamanna for the link.  I can't access it here at work, but now I know where it is.

Lots to do when I get home in a couple hours and this saves some time...thanks so much.
Posted by: Ryan1, February 25th, 2011, 5:04pm; Reply: 274
Just submitted.  Think it came out alright.  Anyway, can't wait to see what people came up with for this.  A wide variety of horror, no doubt.  I really hope there's at least one story with that Scottish sasquatch thing.  Not mine, though.
Posted by: Baltis. (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 5:10pm; Reply: 275
Mike, I was writing this script as apart of the challenge. It just isn't going to work for it.  As I said it will be posted for any and all to read leading up to march 20th upon me finishing the 2nd draft tonight. I am entering many contest this year. Many. I will be a placer in some.  Maybe even win. Who knows.... We shall see.  Keep in mind I wrote a 23 page script in a week too.  Not a 10.

In closing, don't worry what I do. Worry about your work.  I know what i'm doing.
Posted by: CindyLKeller, February 25th, 2011, 5:19pm; Reply: 276
There won't be one from me this time around, but I am very anxious to read the scripts. :)

The OWC usually gets some pretty awesome scripts.

Cindy
Posted by: screenrider (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 5:54pm; Reply: 277

Quoted from Baltis.
don't worry what I do.  Worry about your work.  I know what i'm doing.


Fair enough.   ;)
Posted by: keaton01, February 25th, 2011, 6:15pm; Reply: 278
I submitted two, but got confirmation for only one?
Posted by: Baltis. (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 6:16pm; Reply: 279
No, no, no dont take it like that man.  I'm on my phone right now so proper response is a bit hard.   Plus, just because I say I'm not in doesn't mean I'm not.  But my post here dosent mean I am either.  Again, I know what i'm doing and what's important.  
Posted by: screenrider (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 6:21pm; Reply: 280

Quoted from Baltis.
No, no, no dont take it like that man.  I'm on my phone right now so proper response is a bit hard.   Plus, just because I say I'm not in doesn't mean I'm not.  But my post here dosent mean I am either.  Again, I know what i'm doing and what's important.  


No worries.   I was being a smartass, anyway.    You're right.  I need to focus on my own script.
Posted by: keaton01, February 25th, 2011, 6:22pm; Reply: 281
I just noticed the deadline. I guess if I didn't get a confirmation my script got lost in the ether.
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 25th, 2011, 6:24pm; Reply: 282
You're good. Don doesn't send out confirmations until he posts the scripts. :)
Posted by: keaton01, February 25th, 2011, 6:29pm; Reply: 283
Oh, I got one confirmation days ago. Does that mean the scripts are posted somewhere? Damn I'm new to this.
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 6:53pm; Reply: 284
Scripts won't be up for a few more days.  Read some scripts until then.


Phil
Posted by: jwent6688, February 25th, 2011, 7:31pm; Reply: 285
I'm in. Came in a little under the limit. Wish I could go back and use those extra pages to slow down the pace a bit. No time for a rewrite. Time for rum.

I like it, plus, it just has to be good enough to bitch slap screenrider's. And pile drive it. Suplex it. Climb on the top rope and elbow drive that muthafucka. Isn't that what writing is all about?

James
Posted by: RayW, February 25th, 2011, 7:41pm; Reply: 286
I like it, plus, it just has to be good enough to b**** slap screenrider's. And pile drive it. Suplex it. Climb on the top rope and elbow drive that muthafucka. Isn't that what writing is all about?

Yes.
I believe that is indeed the true spirit of this competition.

Climb on the top rope and elbow drive that muthafucka.

That's the plan.



Anyone got time for a quick an dirty run over my second story?
My first is more big budget Hollywood.
Second is DEFINITELY more in line with the budget, although probably not as clever.
Anyone game?
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 25th, 2011, 7:42pm; Reply: 287
Just getting started.  Research is complete but no time to really go over it, but I have a sense of where I'm at and what will be taking place.

Really wanted to get to know the Gaelic slang, but again, won't have time to incorporate it.

I hope to get this done just in time to submit it.  Vodka is already flowing and Jager is in the freezer.

Good luck everyone!  Time to edit those puppies up...if you're already done, I expect to see no easy fix mistakes.  Yeah, right...
Posted by: Ryan1, February 25th, 2011, 7:49pm; Reply: 288
Jeff,

I found this site which helped with some of the Irish slang.

http://www.slang.ie/
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 25th, 2011, 7:51pm; Reply: 289
Thanks, Ryan, I found a few of those and have them printed up but at this late hour, I don't see how I can even think about using them.  I'll try and throw a few in though.
Posted by: khamanna, February 25th, 2011, 7:53pm; Reply: 290

Quoted from keaton01
I submitted two, but got confirmation for only one?


Hey, welcome Chris!
Posted by: screenrider (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 7:56pm; Reply: 291

Quoted from jwent6688
I like it, plus, it just has to be good enough to bitch slap screenrider's. And pile drive it. Suplex it. Climb on the top rope and elbow drive that muthaf*cka.  Isn't that what writing is all about?

James


Ain't gonna happen, bubba.   :D  ...ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: Mr. Blonde, February 25th, 2011, 8:04pm; Reply: 292

Quoted from jwent6688
I like it, plus, it just has to be good enough to bitch slap screenrider's. And pile drive it. Suplex it. Climb on the top rope and elbow drive that muthafucka. Isn't that what writing is all about?


Ram Jam! Ram Jam! Ram Jam! Ram Jam!
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 25th, 2011, 8:05pm; Reply: 293
I just submitted 3...

Ray, I'd take you up on it, but since it's Friday night, I probably wouldn't be much help.  ;D
Posted by: Sandra Elstree., February 25th, 2011, 8:20pm; Reply: 294

Quoted from reuel51
Well, I just entered my first OWC! We'll see how this goes. I'm looking forward to reading what everyone came up with.


Reuel51, I just noticed your homeland as Salt Lake City. You don't know how close I came to having SLC as home in this OWC, but I couldn't justify the space despite an interesting connection. Still, I fantasize about the area existing in my script, behind what shows on the page.  ;)

Sandra
Posted by: jwent6688, February 25th, 2011, 8:46pm; Reply: 295

Quoted from Ray W
Anyone got time for a quick an dirty run over my second story?
My first is more big budget Hollywood.
Second is DEFINITELY more in line with the budget, although probably not as clever.
Anyone game?


I'll take a quick look. My email is in my member profile. Just about enough time to tell you if I think it sucks or not though...

James

Posted by: Dreamscale, February 25th, 2011, 8:55pm; Reply: 296
Nice, Cleveland...nice.

1 page down.  Going a little slower than I hoped, but like Balt, I frickin' LOVE it so far..and you all will as well, damnit!!!
Posted by: Mr. Blonde, February 25th, 2011, 8:59pm; Reply: 297

Quoted from Dreamscale
I frickin' LOVE it so far..and you all will as well, damnit!!!


It had better be the best thing since canned fucking bread...
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 25th, 2011, 9:09pm; Reply: 298
...maybe better than canned sardines, even!

Starting Page 3...
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 25th, 2011, 9:10pm; Reply: 299
C'mon Jeff! You can do it!!
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 9:18pm; Reply: 300
Forty-five minutes left and I just need to trim another seven pages from the script.  It'll be a squeaker...


Phil
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 25th, 2011, 9:22pm; Reply: 301
It's due at 11:59 est...
Posted by: Sandra Elstree., February 25th, 2011, 9:22pm; Reply: 302

Quoted from dogglebe
Forty-five minutes left and I just need to trim another seven pages from the script.  It'll be a squeaker...


Phil


Are  you serious, Phil? I played with a paragraph for like an eternity as my script changed and changed and oh my God...

I was so ruthless with cuts this time, not locking myself in. Are you really serious? Trying to cut seven pages? I swear to God, I've been there and will not allow myself to do that again. Will I?  ;)

Sandra
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 25th, 2011, 9:25pm; Reply: 303
Don't we have until midnight, EST?  If not, I won't finish...no way.

C'mon now...
Posted by: Mr. Blonde, February 25th, 2011, 9:27pm; Reply: 304
Yes. 11:59PM EST.

I think I'll make it. Just wish it were prettier.

And, yes, I was procrastinating, but I did spend two days killing a virus, but still...

Stupid fucking computers. I desperately need a typewriter.
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 9:29pm; Reply: 305
I have another two and a half hours?  This'll be a piece of cake, then.  It'll make it that much easier to delete those two characters I didn't like.  That should trim four pages then and there.


Phil
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 25th, 2011, 9:31pm; Reply: 306

Quoted from Dreamscale
Don't we have until midnight, EST?  If not, I won't finish...no way.

C'mon now...


Yes Jeff, relax! You got plenty of time.  :)
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 25th, 2011, 9:35pm; Reply: 307
Whew...thanks Pia...

Damn you, Phil!  You had me shitting.  I need a quick shower...
Posted by: Ledbetter (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 9:37pm; Reply: 308
Think I'll start another one. I have time...
Posted by: keaton01, February 25th, 2011, 9:47pm; Reply: 309
Thanks Khamanna, I follow the crazies everywhere. :)
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 25th, 2011, 9:51pm; Reply: 310
You go, Shawn!  You better be pounding an Old 40, damnit!

Page 4!!!!
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 10:04pm; Reply: 311
I don't know how I did it, but I got my nineteen page script down to seven paghs.  I would've had it done sooner, but FRINGE was on.


Phil
Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 10:06pm; Reply: 312

Quoted from keaton01
Thanks Khamanna, I follow the crazies everywhere. :)


Awww.  He found us.  Now we all have to move again.
Posted by: Sandra Elstree., February 25th, 2011, 10:07pm; Reply: 313

Quoted from dogglebe
I don't know how I did it, but I got my nineteen page script down to seven paghes.  I would've had iot done sooner, but FRINGE was on.


Phil


I believe in miracles.  :)

Sandra
Posted by: Ledbetter (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 10:11pm; Reply: 314
On page 5.

5 to go...

How much time do we have????

Shawn.....><
Posted by: keaton01, February 25th, 2011, 10:42pm; Reply: 315

Quoted from mcornetto


Awww.  He found us.  Now we all have to move again.


You can run, but you can't hide.

Posted by: Dreamscale, February 25th, 2011, 10:52pm; Reply: 316
Almost done with Page 6.

This thing FUCKING ROCKS!!!!!!!!  
Posted by: Ledbetter (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 10:54pm; Reply: 317
Drink my feathered headed friend.

Drink and write...

Shawn.....><
Posted by: RayW, February 25th, 2011, 10:56pm; Reply: 318
So, are we double dipping on this or not?

Sticking to one submission - or - screwit, give Rick whatever we got?
Posted by: Ledbetter (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 10:58pm; Reply: 319
Na!

I'm just messing around. Personally I think it is kinda bad form to double dip.

Just one script for me.

Shawn.....><
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 25th, 2011, 11:00pm; Reply: 320
Page 7...running out of time here.  Getting nervous. I need a smoke!

It's rocking the house though. You guys and gals just wait...
Posted by: Sandra Elstree., February 25th, 2011, 11:07pm; Reply: 321

Quoted from RayW
So, are we double dipping on this or not?

Sticking to one submission - or - screwit, give Rick whatever we got?


I'm not double dipping. Only one. There will be plenty enough submissions already without complicating it further.

Sandra
Posted by: Mr. Blonde, February 25th, 2011, 11:12pm; Reply: 322
just finished mine. Is it possible someone else can give it a quick read and see if there's anything that needs fixing that I haven't seen yet? Please? =)
Posted by: jwent6688, February 25th, 2011, 11:13pm; Reply: 323

Quoted from Dreamscale
Page 7...running out of time here.  Getting nervous. I need a smoke!

It's rocking the house though. You guys and gals just wait...


Get er' done Jeff. Even if you've gotta slap a cop out ending on it. Some may give you shit for it, but, I always love a good intro into whor, I mean horror.

James

Posted by: jwent6688, February 25th, 2011, 11:16pm; Reply: 324

Quoted from Mr. Blonde
just finished mine. Is it possible someone else can give it a quick read and see if there's anything that needs fixing that I haven't seen yet? Please? =)


I'll do a quick typo scan, That's it. I just noticed two flaws in mine though. I'm gonna fire my girlfriend as proof reader. My email is in my member profile.

James

Posted by: RayW, February 25th, 2011, 11:16pm; Reply: 325
Does Rick want stories cheap to shoot or clever/visual?

NCFOM or LOTR?
Posted by: Mr. Blonde, February 25th, 2011, 11:20pm; Reply: 326

Quoted from jwent6688
I'll do a quick typo scan, That's it. I just noticed two flaws in mine though. I'm gonna fire my girlfriend as proof reader. My email is in my member profile.


That's all I'm asking for. Thank you, James. I have sent it. =)
Posted by: khamanna, February 25th, 2011, 11:29pm; Reply: 327

Quoted from RayW
Does Rick want stories cheap to shoot or clever/visual?

NCFOM or LOTR?


I assume clever, visual and not very expensive:)
Posted by: RayW, February 25th, 2011, 11:31pm; Reply: 328
You're so helpful, Khamanna!

I got one or the other.
Posted by: wannabe (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 11:33pm; Reply: 329
Whoa...I feel like I'm out of breath!  Intense writing 10 pages that fast.  I need a cocktail!!  
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 25th, 2011, 11:40pm; Reply: 330
20 minutes people!!
Posted by: jwent6688, February 25th, 2011, 11:41pm; Reply: 331

Quoted from Mr. Blonde
That's all I'm asking for. Thank you, James. I have sent it. =)


PM sent.

James

Posted by: jwent6688, February 25th, 2011, 11:42pm; Reply: 332
Nobody bother Jeff.

Just keep quiet. Shhh....
Posted by: Mr. Blonde, February 25th, 2011, 11:46pm; Reply: 333
Replied, James. Thanks a lot. =)

Appreciate it.
Posted by: khamanna, February 25th, 2011, 11:46pm; Reply: 334

Quoted from RayW
You're so helpful, Khamanna!

I got one or the other.


I'd submit no so expensive.
Posted by: Baltis. (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 11:50pm; Reply: 335
Cue Elivs version of "My way"

"And now... The end is near... So I face the final curtain"
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 25th, 2011, 11:57pm; Reply: 336
Done..how do I submit??  HELP!!  I'm wasted!!
Posted by: khamanna, February 25th, 2011, 11:58pm; Reply: 337
Ray, submit both.
Posted by: jwent6688, February 25th, 2011, 11:59pm; Reply: 338

Quoted from Dreamscale
Done..how do I submit??  HELP!!  I'm wasted!!


pia's first post on this thread. Click on the simplescripts link
Posted by: Don, February 26th, 2011, 12:01am; Reply: 339

Quoted from Dreamscale
Done..how do I submit??  HELP!!  I'm wasted!!


http://simplyscripts.com/unpro_short_exercise_11_02.html

Or you could look at the top of the screen where it sez, "Scripts due here"...

Don
Posted by: jwent6688, February 26th, 2011, 12:04am; Reply: 340

Quoted from jwent6688
pia's first post on this thread. Click on the simplescripts link


Sorry, meant simplyscripts link. Simple scripts is a website I'm starting on my own. I'm hoping to recruit Bert as a member. Just so i can delete his posts. Just once, would be worth all of the work.

James

Posted by: Dreamscale, February 26th, 2011, 12:05am; Reply: 341
I think I got it, but I didn't get to put a title page on it.  And my title and logline is horrendous, but I was in a panic.  And, I had to totally rush the ending.  And, I'm wasted.  And, I didn't get to edit a single page!!

FUCK!!  Where'd the time go???
Posted by: greg, February 26th, 2011, 12:06am; Reply: 342
I'm in.
Posted by: RayW, February 26th, 2011, 12:12am; Reply: 343

Quoted from khamanna
I'd submit no so expensive.



Quoted from khamanna
Ray, submit both.


Remind me not to play craps or roulette with you.   >:(

Ray - Shall I play black or red?
Khamanna - Red.
Ray - Okay, twenty on red--
Khamanna - No! Black!
Ray - Cool. Twenty on--
Khamanna - No! Both!
Ray - Angel... it's a twenty chip. Can't play it on both.
Khamanna - Mmmm...
Ray puts his forehead down on the table's edge.



I sent in the cheapie for this challenge.

The Peter Jackson SFX special will be sent via the standard route.

XOXXO
Posted by: Dreamscale, February 26th, 2011, 12:15am; Reply: 344
FUCK!!!  I think I'm in but I was SO RUSHED at the end.  Not even sure what I submitted...

Sorry, Rick.  It was so rocking until the time ran out...
Posted by: DarrenJamesSeeley, February 26th, 2011, 12:16am; Reply: 345
Well I have two in and feel groovy. Right?

Wrong. I have a hangover...and I get home, check my e-mail five minutes before the hour...
Quoted Text
Your OWC script has been received.  Can you pick another pseudonym?  ------ has been taken .    Just resubmit if you can.


Oddly, I used a different pseudo on the first submission. That one was fine.
Least I think so...

It isn't worth it to be under the gun like that, so I let it stay as is (#2) and I'll just respond to the threads when authors are revealed, resub when the OWC makes the history books.

I wish all submitees well.
I will read you all.

DjS
Posted by: khamanna, February 26th, 2011, 12:16am; Reply: 346
I forgot we were allowed to submit both.
Why not both if you wrote two...

UHH

but if I was to select one of the two I'd go for the cheaper one - stickng behind this one.
Posted by: RayW, February 26th, 2011, 12:20am; Reply: 347

Quoted from Dreamscale
FU(k!!!  I think I'm in but I was SO RUSHED at the end.  Not even sure what I submitted...

Sorry, Rick.  It was so rocking until the time ran out...


I think you just linked your 2009 TurboTax PDF, Gene.  ;)

Congratulations everybody.
I'm sure they're all wonderful creations and if Rick had the time and resources to shoot... what? A ten hour feature? they'd all get shot.
This summer.
We could go see 'em at the UK Horrorfest thingie.

Posted by: Dreamscale, February 26th, 2011, 12:27am; Reply: 348
Thanks, Bob.  I fucked up for sure.  Damn..I'm SO PISSED!!!!

If only this excellent challenge could have just taken place 1 week later.

Oh well, it is what it is, and I can't play the sob story.  I was ricking along and I ran out of time. Not sure what i did post, but we'll see, I guess.  It definitely wasn't my tax returns cause I haven't filed in years...oh boy...maybe I shouildn;t say that.

Best of luck to all and congrats to all who did complete the challenge!  Looking fiorward to rading every frickin one fo tehm!!!
Posted by: RayW, February 26th, 2011, 12:27am; Reply: 349

Quoted from khamanna
I forgot we were allowed to submit both.
Why not both if you wrote two...

UHH

but if I was to select one of the two I'd go for the cheaper one - stickng behind this one.


Yeah, yeah, yeah.  ;)
I dunno. Seems the "Oners" are more energetic than the "Multis".

HUUUH?

Kevlar position, eh? Brave. Very brave.

GL & GN!  :)


Posted by: Don, February 26th, 2011, 12:28am; Reply: 350
Folks, the scripts are in.  First batch up at: http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1298697864/
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