Who Wrote What, Writer's Choice and 'final' words on the Feb OWC.

The February 2011 One Week Challenge now draws to a close with the 'reveal' of Who Wrote What and the "Writer's Choice" script..

But first a few words.  Again, thanks everyone who entered.  The question on everyone's mind is "Which script did Rick pick, if any?"  I don't know.  I'm sure Rick is still reading through them and it could be several months before there is announcement, if any.  Rick is under no obligation to produce any of the scripts.  This has been stated at the beginning of the OWC. If there was/is any misunderstanding in that regard, the fault is entirely my own.  

Pseudonyms

Thanks to Daren J Seeley for the idea for the pseudonyms used.  If you missed it, the pseudonym theme was Executioneers (mostly European).  Except for Darren, Kevin, Sandra and Janet (who selected her/his own pseudonym), the names were assigned randomly.  Apologies if I've offended anyone's 'gender sensibilities'.  It was not intentional.

Writer's Choice

The Writer's Choice selection is at the bottom of this thread.  Each writer was asked, "Of the scripts you have read, which one did you enjoy the most".  It was left up to the writer's to determine his/her own criteria.  

Thanks to Pia for spearheading this challenge  This challenge would not have happened if it wasn't for Pia

Now, Who Wrote What?

The Maidens by Brendan O'Neill (cap10xb1s) - Camille Blanchard - Short - A man looking for a good deal on a rare book gets more than he bargained for. - pdf, format 8)

Foreshadow by Shawn Davis (ledbetter) - Paskah Rose - Short - A young couple has their fortune told but without a future, whats the point? - pdf, format 8)

The Flesh Won't Be Missed by Darren J Seeley (DarrenJamesSeeley) - Jack Ketch - Short - A witch and her psychotic boyfriend plan a robbery with the use of a very special candle.  - pdf, format 8)

Territory by Janet Clarke (wonkavite) - Alan Smithee - Short - Even killers should respect *certain* boundaries.... - pdf, format 8)

Wisp by Harley G Wolfe Jr. (Hugh Hoyland) - Gregory Brandon - Short - Don't follow the light. 8 pages.  - pdf, format 8)

Scottish Lullaby by Kevin Lenihan (leitskev) - The Son of Barbara McDonald L. - Short - A peculiar boy becomes the focus of dark ambition and supernatural forces, as jealous gods reach from the past.  - pdf, format 8)

Bell Tolls by Philip Whitcroft (pwhitcroft) - William Calcraft - Short - A disabled woman uses her visions of the moments after people die to battle a Banshee that feeds on souls. - pdf, format 8)

Can't Scare Me by Brian Howell (reuel51) - William Billington - Short -  A macho guy sets out into the woods, alone, to prove that he can't get scared. - pdf, format 8)

Frame Of The Open Door by Catherine Hall (cmhall) - Thomas Henry Scott - Short - Three sisters try to use occult powers to keep their little worlds in balance. - pdf, format 8)

The Lamb by Steve Lewis (tinkin) - William Billington - Short - Dave awakens to find his friend has tried to sacrifice him to the Grim Reaper in order to avoid his own death. - pdf, format 8)

The Pond by Gary Rademan (grademan) - John Ellis - Short - A stormy night for a real estate agent and two customers at an old house turns deadly. A storm sprite watches from the pond... for a while. - pdf, format 8)

Revenge of a Sea Witch by Dave Austin (dn061903) - Henry Pierrepoint - Short - Two seafaring thieves pick the wrong person to rob. - pdf, format 8)

Them That's Dead by Robert Glenn Newcomer (bert) - Thomas Pierrepoint - Short - The dark art of necromancy proves perilous for a cutthroat trio of thieves seeking lost treasure. - pdf, format 8)

An Bean Sidhe by Eoin O' Sullivan (eoin) - Robert Baxter - Short - A young man who haunts a village with renditions of a Banshee slowly begins to see and hear the real thing. - pdf, format 8)

Wild Ginger's Wine by Darren J Seeley (DarrenJamesSeeley) - Written by Alan Smitee - Short - For their annual party in the forest, three women break in a new but reluctant member into the inner circle by drinking the blood of her boyfriend. - pdf, format 8)

Bloodstorm by Steve McDonell (stevie) - Stanley Cross - Short - Patrons in a Scottish face a malevolent evil. - pdf, format 8)

The God Stick by Ryan Lee (ryan1) - Albert Pierrepoint - Short - A young man and his grandfather venture into an Irish forest, where the grandfather explains a grim family burden. - pdf, format 8)

The Cries by Phil Clarke Jr. (dogglebe) - Harry Bernard Allen - Short - An old man must save his granddaughter from the demon that took her mother twenty years earlier. - pdf, format 8)

The Spirit of Ben MacDui by Stephen Brown (stebrown) - John C. Woods - Short - Spending their wedding anniversary on a hiking and mountaineering holiday in Scotland, the Lassiter's come face-to-face with a creature of myth and legend. - pdf, format 8)

CAILLIIIX by Sandra El. Watson (Sandra Elstree) - <>+<> - Short - Triple Helix and pain resistance are under the scrutiny of a modern sorceress born from the lineage of Cailleach. She vows to rid the world of suffering, but first she needs a suitor, a difficult task when her beauty turns-- as does her world so strange. - pdf, format 8)

Selvage by James Williams (jwent6688) - Godwine Porthund - Short - Sometimes, even a simple game of truth or dare can end up deadly. - pdf, format 8)

Bean Sidhe by Khamanna Iskandarova (khamanna) - Charles Sanson - Short - When she wails she takes a soul with her. - pdf, format 8)

Imposter by Pardeep (Yohn Yohnson) - Henri Sanson - Short - A couples camping trip takes a frightening turn when a manic stranger turns up with a tall tale of murder and a killer who he believes was him. - pdf, format 8)

Spike and Hike by Joe Garza (SPQR) - Henry-Clément Sanson - Short - A group of hikers on Scotland's second highest mountain meet an unfriendly friend. - pdf, format 8)

Monsters by Leon Aria (LeonAria) - Jean-François Heidenreich - Short - Aiden is tasked to hunt down and kill an murderous shape-shifting creature, but who is the greater monster. - pdf, format 8)

…And I Take You by Greg Baldwin (greg) - Franz Schmidt - Short - Some people see Jesus.  A few people see Satan.  The rest see Her. - pdf, format 8)

Reliquary by T.J. Fraser (Blakkwolfe) - Lorenz Schwietz - Short - A homeless prostitute learns that even those who have nothing can still sacrifice everything. - pdf, format 8)

She by Bryan Mora (BryMo) - Joseph Malta - Short - Rival hunters, jaded by ordinary woman, join forces to capture the most renowned woman of all…a Siren.  - pdf, format 8)

Captive by Brian K. Millard (shootingduck) - Albert Gustaf Dahlman - Short - A motorist intervenes in an act of violence on a young girl and gets them both into a life and death situation, at the mercy of a malevolent masked madman. - pdf, format 8)

A Hazing at Dead Lake by Marnie Mitchell-Lister (wannabe) - Per Petter Christiansson Steineck - Short - An overpriveledged University student learns the hard way that there is no "I" in team when he gets stuck out on a haunted lake with two other teammates. - pdf, format 8)

Taibhse by Sean Chipman (mr. blonde) - Ray Liotta - Short - Three teenage troublemakers with a mission to burn down an abandoned house get into trouble they couldn't imagine. - pdf, format 8)

Devil's Erudition by Ray (rayw) - Darshan Singh - Short - A student seeks assistance to enter college from his principal by sacrificing him to a demon knight in hell. - pdf, format 8)

Water by Shane Michael Dean (shane) - Muhammad Saad al-Beshi - Short - Some things are better kept below the surface. - pdf, format 8)

The White Women by Jeff Bush (dreamscale) - Vasili Blokhin - Short - Sometimes old myths are more than just old myths - pdf, format 8)


The Writer's Choices were:

Them That's Dead by Robert Glenn Newcomer (bert) - Thomas Pierrepoint - Short - The dark art of necromancy proves perilous for a cutthroat trio of thieves seeking lost treasure. - pdf, format 8)


The God Stick by Ryan Lee (ryan1) - Albert Pierrepoint - Short - A young man and his grandfather venture into an Irish forest, where the grandfather explains a grim family burden. - pdf, format 8)

Jesus, Bert. I read the Farm and liked it, but wow, that's some fine writing in this short!

Congrats to Captive, can't buy talent.

I knew I should have given Bells more of a chance. I wasn't up to the challenge as a reader. Just not used to script reading yet.

Great job on White Women and Flesh too.

Several stories were very imaginative, need a little more simmering to tie things together.

Ok, back to work!

No shame in coming in second place to the all-powerful Bert.  Loved the dialogue in Them That's Dead.  Thanks to everyone who gave my script a vote and the rest of you go to hell.  But, no, there were some great stories in this OWC and I look forward to seeing Captive filmed.

I thought your story was very good Ryan.  It was my fav until I read Captive.   If I had the right props I'd ask you if you minded me animating it in Moviestorm.  That wouldn't happen until I get through the rest of the stuff I have to do though.  I bet it will have already been picked up by then but if it isn't you might remind me in a few months.

Maybe I overlooked this but has the writer of Captive even been around? I don't recall seeing a "shootingduck" board name reviewing any scripts...

Interesting to see who wrote what.  Bert's was the easiest to pick out because of the "inferno" inclusion.

Quoted from greg Maybe I overlooked this but has the writer of Captive even been around? I don't recall seeing a "shootingduck" board name reviewing any scripts...

He's definitely not part of "the clique".   I love it.   But he did review some scripts.

He reviewed mine.

Quoted from Don Thanks to Pia for spearheading this challenge  This challenge would not have happened if it wasn't for Pia.

Thank you, Pia, for all your work at getting this OWC organized, coordinated and "working the boards" as moderator.
Even moreso considering your other obligations.

Hope your daughter's arm is recovering well. God bless.

Ray

Thank you, Rick, for inciting such an enthusiastic participation in this challenge.

Like everyone else, I look forward to seeing how CAPTIVE turns out and festival response.

Ray

Quoted from RayW Thank you, Pia, for all your work at getting this OWC organized, coordinated and "working the boards" as moderator. Even moreso considering your other obligations. Hope your daughter's arm is recovering well. God bless.

Thanks Ray!

I wanted to participate in this myself but I just couldn"t find the time.

i think Rick's an excellent director and I'd love to see what he does with Captive,

Thanks to all took part and I was happy to see no one entered pisstakes!!!  LOL!!

And to let you guys know, I've been around to all the machinima forums I hang out at and told them about the available scripts here.    If anyone asks you about doing an animation or machinima of your script be nice to them.

Any people who hang out at other film-making forums should definitely let them know about the scripts that are available.  If we band together and get the news of these scripts out there, I'm sure a few more will get made.  

Just post this link...

http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1299380237/

And tell them there's Horror/ Celtic Myth themed scripts available.  Remind them to ask the author before they use the script.

Cheers.

Having decided to stick out of this one, I do not feel I should eliminate myself from the reading process. With so many entries, I am not sure where to start, so if anyone wants a read, just let me know. It's time I got back to doing what I came here for... reading!

I knew Bert's entry was written by a pro -- I pegged Phil or Bert for it in the offset, so I'm vindicated for my guess.  It was easily the best script I've read of the Owc challenge thus far -- And I've read a lot.  I don't think I've read Phil's yet, but I will... If I had I might have to read it again.  This OWC, to me, was weak.  It didn't have near the quality of work the October one had.  Not even close...  

I'm glad I pulled out and let my script take a life of its own -- You'll be reading my "would be" entry here on the boards soon -- Phil and Bert sooner than later.  I'm entering it into the shriekfest 2011 contest shorts cat at 35 pages on March 20th.  Believe, if you wanna go up against it, to have stiff comp.  I don't care who you are -- I've had a few people look at it now -- Aside from my cats, friends and family and they all loved it -- The cats more than most, though.

In fact, it's so good that if I don't place in the event I'll give up screenwriting completely -- Not  that I need money, but yeah... It's that good.

Adonis DNA and Tiger's blood means nothing when you've got Dairy for blood and Yahweh DNA.

This was my fourth OWC. One thing I've never realised is that I've never reposted my scripts with my name and contact info on the title pages. Is this recommended? If anyone ever wanted to shoot one of our OWCs they might not figure out how to contact us. Could be alot of work for Don though.

James

Folks,

Please stay on topic.

Don

My first post was on topic. Are we supposed to resubmit our scripts with our real names and contact information on our title page??

Quoted from jwent6688 My first post was on topic. Are we supposed to resubmit our scripts with our real names and contact information on our title page??

Apologies, James.  I missed the question.

Yes, you may resubmit your script with your real name on it.  I'll have the real names on the individual scripts updated over the next few days.

Don

Hello all,

Thanks to those who read Captive, thanks to Rick and thanks to the organizers of the OWC and the simplyscripts site itself.  While I am not considered to be a regular SS'er, I have been around since the last OWC in October.  I have not been as active as I'd have liked since joining, but I'm trying.  I will be giving every one of these scripts a read and review, it's just been a slow going.  I believe I am through all of the first two batches.  I don't want you guys to think I am just a troll on the board, I'm here to participate as much as I can, to learn and possibly even help someone less experienced.  I hope to one day be accepted as a full fledged member, but it appears it can be a tough clique to crack... :)

I am really looking forward to seeing what Rick does with my story!  It's very exciting!  I've filmed two of my own projects (one that will never see the light of day and one that is currently in post production) but this will be the first time my work is brought to the screen by another director...

I look forward to seeing you all around the boards.  And don't worry if I haven't gotten to your OWC script yet, I've been away this weekend, but starting tomorrow morning (at work of course) I plan to continue reading and reviewing.

Thanks again for everyone's comments and support, they are all extremely appreciated!

-Brian K. Millard

Big congrats to ShootingD on a fine performance for a OWC debut.

That was definitely one of my favorites this time around.

Sure am glad I didn't waste time on "Spike and Hike".

Unfortunately, I did waste time on "The Lamb" and "The Maidens", and am going to delete my reviews from those threads.

Yeah -- looking at you "spqr" and "tinkin" and "cap...whatever".  Thanks for playing  ::)

Bert?  Huh? Why are you saying you wasted your time on those scripts?   Did the authors not read any scripts?  If that's the case, they should be tarred and publicly feathered.

Quoted from Dreamscale Did the authors not read any scripts?

The only people I ever have a problem with are people who read ZERO scripts.

And yeah, it is those guys.

I delete my reviews -- and encourage others to follow suit -- and make absolutely no apologies for it.

I hear ya, Bert.  That sucks.  Do tehy have any posts at all?  How'd they sneak in?  Someone has to know them...I bet...

Thanks Rick and Pia for the OWC that rocked. It was a lot of fun!

And thanks to everyone who reviewed my script - every review counts, there were a lot of  interesting thoughts that will help me with my rewrite.

And thanks to Don for all the work:)

Quoted from bert The only people I ever have a problem with are people who read ZERO scripts. And yeah, it is those guys. I delete my reviews -- and encourage others to follow suit -- and make absolutely no apologies for it.

Bert,

If it bothers you this much then maybe there should be a mandatory rule implicated in the next OWC for anyone who enters to review a certain number of scripts to be eligible.

Let's just ban them from future OWC's.  Seriously...why not?

It could be someone that signed up under a new name because they didn't want to submit under their usual name.

Quoted from screenrider Bert, If it bothers you this much then maybe there should be a mandatory rule implicated in the next OWC for anyone who enters to review a certain number of scripts to be eligible.

Nope, no rules like that, as Don doesn't want to run things that way.

I respect that -- so I simply content myself with calling them out, deleting my posts, and that's pretty much the end of it.  Just a little mini-vent.

We have a few every OWC, always will, and there is no way to guard against them.

OK, I thin I read and commented on them all...and yes, that includes the ones I didn't finish, but at least let the author know exactly why.

If I missed anyone, just let me know.

Quoted from bert Nope, no rules like that, as Don doesn't want to run things that way. I respect that -- so I simply content myself with calling them out, deleting my posts, and that's pretty much the end of it.  Just a little mini-vent. We have a few every OWC, always will, and there is no way to guard against them.

If we abandon the anonymous thing, it will help. Ok, i know its a bit of a 'tradition', from before my time here.
But if we know all the authors and some 'ring-in's aren't reading any other scripts, then we can choose not to read theirs.

We didn't have the anon for the Halloween challenge - can't recall exactly why not - and it wasn't a big deal.
Also, if people know who what wrote from the start, then more regs will get reads - I had to PM a couple of 'senior' regs to read mine( I wanted some extra feedback) and felt like a bit of a bottom feeder.
I was a bit bemused that people were picking their faves when they had only read a handful of scripts.

Anyhow, not trying to stir up trouble and be a prique.

Cheers stevie

Quoted from stevie If we abandon the anonymous thing, it will help.

There's one reason in particular i like the anonymous posts. You get an honest opinion from board members whom you even consider your friends here.

I kinda like that honesty. read my script as if it were posted by a newbie. Tell me what you really think. Don't hold back.

Although, I did my fair share of PM's this time and found out alot of the writers prior. I still tried to be honest. No favoritism. Just my humble opinon.

James

I think the anonymous route is also much more fair...especially for a guy like me!   ;D ;D ;D

When peeps know it's my script, they like to go for the jugular for some strange reason..

One thing I really like about MP is the anonymous voting. Also like that you can't move on to the next script if you don't review and vote on the scripts in the order they come up. That means all scripts also get the same amount of reviews.

Quoted from bert Big congrats to ShootingD on a fine performance for a OWC debut. That was definitely one of my favorites this time around. Sure am glad I didn't waste time on "Spike and Hike". Unfortunately, I did waste time on "The Lamb" and "The Maidens", and am going to delete my reviews from those threads. Yeah -- looking at you "spqr" and "tinkin" and "cap...whatever".  Thanks for playing  ::)

I could have sworn there were a few others. But perhaps those few did comment on something..?
I could be wrong.

I don't think I'll waste more time -even if it is only a few seconds to delete - because that's extra seconds wasted on them.

I use to post work here all the time until 1 was stolen from me and another that I posted, one that ended up selling and partially filmed "Deliver Me Death", got like 5 reads... It was crazy.  It was nuts.  It was absolute lunacy.  It was better than 90% of the shit I was reading or that was being read at the time and it really woke me up to the

"I'm giving my time not getting any in return mentality."

Luckily it was bought by Jeremy Garner quickly after it was posted and I had it removed inside of a month I believe... Maybe month and a half.

I've released one script since "DMD"... And that was for the October OWC.  I read and review peoples scripts without a single favor in return. (I have asked Bert and Phil to read my newest script before it gets posted.  That aside -->)  When someone comes to me and says "hey, read my script and if you got anything you want me to look at let me know"  I seldom reply back with sure here ya go.  I do read their script more often than not, though.

I'm posting my latest script for feedback, something I seldom do... And I'm only doing it because I'm entering it into some contest this year.  If it doesn't get read don't ever question why I don't post my work here again.  Screenrider I'm looking at you... And since I am looking at you

Coffin Canyon (154 "at the time.  It is now 117 pages strong" page feature)
Gruff (35 page short)
Just What you need (36 page short)
Lady across the way (27 page short)
Midnight Snack (24 page short)
The Toll (32 page short)
Manor Morgue Motel (3 part mini series)
Mr. Parks New Lease on life (34 page short)
What a long Strange Trip  (116 page anthology)
Deliver Me Death (33 page short)
The Road (24 page short)

Are some scripts I've posted on this site over the years... Sorry you and others weren't around to learn from them.  All were well received.  The Toll being one of the best scripts I've ever written some say.

Quoted from Baltis. I'm posting my latest script for feedback, something I seldom do... And I'm only doing it because I'm entering it into some contest this year.  If it doesn't get read don't ever question why I don't post my work here again.  Screenrider I'm looking at you...

:D  :o  :D

I still think we should have a screenwriter showdown.  Your thirty pager against my thirty pager.   Whattya say, ol' chap?

Quoted from screenrider I still think we should have a screenwriter showdown.  Your thirty pager against my thirty pager.   Whattya say, ol' chap?

Sounds like a great idea, screen.  How'd that last showdown work out?

Quoted from Ryan1 Sounds like a great idea, screen.  How'd that last showdown work out?

Shawn nearly gunned me down, Jesse.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3539/3503701873_7be34d6650.jpg?v=0

Super K's gonna slip on her little spurs soon and bring on the heat next!
http://img.webme.com/pic/k/kerstinfritscher/super-k.jpg

Mike took his little six shooters and went back to the ranch.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3630/3447478460_4c1db8b3a4_m.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Doctor-Bandage-Little-Golden-Books/dp/B000MIVX2O/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1299589082&sr=8-5
(I suggest reading this rather than those nasty demon summoning books).

Anytime Ray!
Actually better be either in the morning or after 11 and on a weekday but I'm not backing out.

Quoted from Ryan1 Sounds like a great idea, screen.  How'd that last showdown work out?

You mean the one where James balked, wouldn't meet me one on one, and instead had a so-called showdown with me via the OWC?    Yeah, that didn't go too well.   8)  

What's your point?

Personally I think my Crimson Swirl and Business Before Pleasure scripts faired just as well as James' Selvage script.     I'm glad I got your attention though, Ryan.   You're one of the best on this site so ultimately I'm looking to have a showdown with you.   If you're up to it.

Michael, I think you should have a Throwdown with yourself.  We'll be the judge of which Michael wins...

Quoted from Dreamscale Michael, I think you should have a Throwdown with yourself.  We'll be the judge of which Michael wins...

I've got a better idea.  Why don't you be one of the judges when me and Baltis go head to head.   Could be fun.   I'm still waiting to hear back from Don to see if he's gonna let us do it.

If he gives me a greenlight then I'll post the details on another thread.    Should probably quit hijacking this thread for now.   I fail to see why people keep wanting to make a big deal out of this.   Put up or shut up.   :K)

I'm in!  I'll be a judge for sure.  Balt's agreed to this?

If Balt agrees to this I'll eat my socks haha.

He wouldn't post something he wrote in a few hours.

I don't think he will either.  I don't think I would.

Quoted from bert If Balt agrees to this I'll eat my socks haha. He wouldn't post something he wrote in a few hours.

Eat your socks, Bert.   Balt has agreed.

His thirty page script against my thirty pager.    Not scripts written in a few hours.    Battle of the titans.

I just need Don's OK on this.   I sent him a PM.

I think film is a collaborative process, which is something you learn on set. As a bit of fun, this one-on-one might be interesting, but certainly not as a philosophy for working in a true filming environment.

Still, it'll be two head strong people writing scripts that will hopefully be of a good quality.

Quoted from screenrider Screenwriting is a cutthroat business.  What better way to sharpen the sword than to do it here.  One on one.  Script against script.   Who can tell the better story?  That's all it's about.  And yes, it'll be interesting to say the least.

Instead of a smackdown, why not a collaboration?
Time to put away the daggers!
Give peace a chance.
All that.

Quoted from DarrenJamesSeeley Instead of a smackdown, why not a collaboration? Time to put away the daggers! Give peace a chance. All that.

So as not to keep hijacking this thread I've opened another.
http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1299610207/

Quoted from Andrew I think film is a collaborative process, which is something you learn on set..

Tell that to David Fincher.  He'll laugh in your face.   :D

Shouldn't it be Screenwriter's Showdown Two????

James

Ok, i have to say this, all of this has become tedious!!

SR, in all the time you have spent issuing challenges and stuff, you could have written a fucking feature by now.

Sorry to undermine my normal Aussie cheerfulness, but I felt like letting some steam out.

Cheers stevie

Quoted from jwent6688 Shouldn't it be Screenwriter's Showdown Two???? James

No, because that would conflict with Cornetto's Screenwriter's Showdown.   Next up is RayW vs. Khamanna

Quoted from stevie Ok, i have to say this, all of this has become tedious!! SR, in all the time you have spent issuing challenges and stuff, you could have written a fucking feature by now. Sorry to undermine my normal Aussie cheerfulness, but I felt like letting some steam out. Cheers stevie

Stevie, let it be.  8)

Again, my apologies to the Mods for this thread GETTING off track.  But actually I didn't start it.

started here:

Quoted from Baltis. .  Screenrider I'm looking at you...

I'm angry that not once, but twice this thread has been hijacked.  Stay the fuck on topic.

Don

The OWC this time around was a fantastic success. Pia, well done. Everyone here should be very proud of themselves.

Also, Don, you did a GREAT job working overtime on the posting, notification emails and voting setup.

Thanks everyone who posted on my script and to those I posted, It was a pleasure. I only wish I had more time to read more than I did.

Thanks again and I really cain't wait until the next challange.

Shawn.....><

Thanks Shawn!   :K)

Can't believe how things can turn nasty here if you don't have time to monitor stuff for half a day...

I thought this OWC turned out real well. Just wish I had had more time myself to spend on it. The scripts I read were of good quality and Rick found something he wants to film. All around success if you ask me.

I submitted a rewrite for WISP the day before yesterday. I'ts a bit more in line with my original idea (and that may not be good lol). I suppose it'll pop up in a few days or so. :] Anyone got one they would like me to check out. AGAIN I make no pretense at being some sort of S&E of screenplay reviews.

I thought this was a stellar challenge.
All those that made it happen put forth a truly quality event.
Even though I did not contribute a script, I was thrilled to read everyone's efforts.
SS has really helped me step up my effort to improve my craft.
The opportunity to review and critique here has truly elevated my skills.
Drama and personality clashes aside, all the contributing members rock.
And those that drop off a script and screw off, you're missing out big time.
There's some fierce talent here and you can learn truckloads from members.
So check your ego at the door and let her rip, this dog can hunt.
Thanks guys.

E.D.

P.S. The proceeding gushing was brought to you by cheap bourbon. ^__^

I was bored yesterday yesterday, so I decided to draw a little more blood from the OCW. I thought maybe some of the other participants might want to join me.

No one really wants to read rewrites unless asked as a favor. So I decided to try something different.

I wanted to address the various criticisms and comments, so I decided to write a spin off story. Not a new chapter, as a short should kind of a stand alone probably. I used some lesser characters and a setting from my short to write a new story.

I wanted to create a script that no one would complain "it's not horror". So this one has plenty of blood. The overall tone will be very different too, while some of the theme remains.

I did 9 pages yesterday, but still have not worked out the ending. When I finish, if any other OCW people want to look at it, maybe I will post on a blog and link here so people can take a look. That way I can post it here when it's been refined by criticism.

I thought maybe some of the people active with the OCW might be interested in doing this. I know Wonka is still working on her story, maybe Darren, or Jeff.

Just an idea. No harm in trying.

Mine will be rewritten but it's looking like that won't be happening until the weekend (although, in reality, there are only several additions, and a few corrections).

Has anyone already posted rewritten OWC scripts?  Where are they being posted...shorts?

Quoted from Dreamscale Mine will be rewritten but it's looking like that won't be happening until the weekend (although, in reality, there are only several additions, and a few corrections). Has anyone already posted rewritten OWC scripts?  Where are they being posted...shorts?

Haven't gotten around to it yet. It was a great exercise and a good learning oppurtunity. The brevity of it was one of the biggest attractions. It's not on my priority list at the moment, but I might get around to doing it at the weekend. Still struggling with a feature, when I get the time that is!

My rewrite was posted as an edit to the original a couple days ago. I think Wonka's is up too.

Quoted from Dreamscale Mine will be rewritten but it's looking like that won't be happening until the weekend (although, in reality, there are only several additions, and a few corrections). Has anyone already posted rewritten OWC scripts?  Where are they being posted...shorts?

I posted a rewrite couple of days ago. Not heard anything yet. I guess it might take a while to get posted. I assume in shorts, but not sure.

Might I recommend that we hold off on any and all 'challenges' until the next regularly scheduled OWC?  People get a little excited as they approach, which wouldn't happen if challenges occurred every other week.

Use this down time to write something on your own.


Phil

Let's do a chellange challenge to pick the next challenge.

Or even a challenge challenge challenge to pick the challenge challenge?

Quoted from leitskev My rewrite was posted as an edit to the original a couple days ago. I think Wonka's is up too.

When did you post it? I sent mine a few days ago. Maybe I messed up somehow. Would it be put in the OWC section? Shorts?

Quoted from Hugh Hoyland When did you post it? I sent mine a few days ago. Maybe I messed up somehow. Would it be put in the OWC section? Shorts?

Don will post them on the same thread the scripts already have, but the old script will be swapped out for the new draft.

For example, look at the first post of "Scottish Lullaby" and, near the bottom, you will see the "Revision History" showing Don uploading the new draft on March 7th, 2011, 6:13pm.

Yours has not been done yet, but he'll get to it.  Just give him a chance to catch up.

Quoted from bert Don will post them on the same thread the scripts already have, but the old script will be swapped out for the new draft. For example, look at the first post of "Scottish Lullaby" and, near the bottom, you will see the "Revision History" showing Don uploading the new draft on March 7th, 2011, 6:13pm. Yours has not been done yet, but he'll get to it.  Just give him a chance to catch up.

Got it, Thanks Bert!

My idea had nothing to do with a new challenge. I merely thought, for those interested, we could extend a little life out of this one. For example, let's say hypothetically Bert wrote a new story about an adventure of Shark Tooth. People might be more apt to read it now while the characters are fresh in their mind.

There might be no interest from anyone to do that, and that's fine. But if there is, I don't think it will distract from the October OWC.

I think I'l do an offshoot of my OWC from one of the horses POV...or possibly from one of the seal carcasses POV.

I know you all are waiting for this one.  I wouldn't even bring it up unless it was going to be HUGE!  

Quoted from dogglebe Might I recommend that we hold off on any and all 'challenges' until the next regularly scheduled OWC?  People get a little excited as they approach, which wouldn't happen if challenges occurred every other week. Use this down time to write something on your own. Phil

I have to agree. I think emotionally, people put a lot of work into the OWC no matter how good or what it amounts to in the end. It's kinduv like Christmas. You put so much energy into making it special for everyone... But you can't have Christmas everyday.

Mini challenges and such, if people want to do them, I think that's great. But maybe keep the OWCs as a bit more of a special phenomenon.  :)

Sandra

Quoted from leitskev My idea had nothing to do with a new challenge. I merely thought, for those interested, we could extend a little life out of this one. For example, let's say hypothetically Bert wrote a new story about an adventure of Shark Tooth. People might be more apt to read it now while the characters are fresh in their mind. There might be no interest from anyone to do that, and that's fine. But if there is, I don't think it will distract from the October OWC.

I got your PM, I'm assuming this i the'idea' you mentioned. I bolded the last part because off and on since last November, I have been expanding and/or switching up my entry in that challenge (Pumpkinseeds) off and on. It's becoming more of an RL Stine sort of flavor but I'm taking my time with it. I don't think I'll expand Wild Ginger or Flesh too much in he future. If I do it will be due to some person wanting to film them and asking me for another page or two.
As it is, one of the two in this OWC (Wild Ginger) has three more pages.

It isn't uncommon for some to rework the shorts into longer shorts or feature length scripts.

Quoted from Dreamscale I think I'l do an offshoot of my OWC from one of the horses POV...or possibly from one of the seal carcasses POV.

So long as you are not inspired from the original Hills Have Eyes 2...
I'll comment on your revision when it's up. Let me know when and I'll get to it.

"I don't think it will distract from the October OWC."

Generally the OWC happens every January, April, July and October. This one happened only because the January OWC didn't get a lot of participation.

HaHa!!  Darren, that's funny.  That was one of the all time lamest flicks, and I know there are a plethera of possibilities when it comes to worst of the worst.

I think you're referring to a POV of the family dog, right?  Like they actually inserted scenes showing its memory?  Is that it?  I can't recall exactly, but I do know it SUCKS to high Heaven.

Funny...

Quoted from Dreamscale HaHa!!  Darren, that's funny.  That was one of the all time lamest flicks, and I know there are a plethera of possibilities when it comes to worst of the worst. I think you're referring to a POV of the family dog, right?  Like they actually inserted scenes showing its memory?  Is that it?  I can't recall exactly, but I do know it SUCKS to high Heaven. Funny...

Yes, sir. A point of film history-and infamy!

Yeah, I remember seeing it when it came out and not being impressed...but many years later, when I started understanding more about movies, and enjoying reading about movies, I recall reading alot about this shocking insertion.

And "shocking" is a good word for it.  What in the Hell they were thinking would be a great commentery to hear.  I bet ya they were all completely stoned/wasted when they came up with that idea.

You've made me laugh today, so thank you!

Ok my rewrite of WISP is up. If anyone can muster it, please give it a read and let me know what you think. I'll return the favor and read one of your rewites! Thanks!

Quoted from Grandma Bear Generally the OWC happens every January, April, July and October. This one happened only because the January OWC didn't get a lot of participation.

I still think the Star Trek challenge was brilliant.


Phil

Quoted from dogglebe I still think the Star Trek challenge was brilliant. Phil

Yeah I missed that one! Being a trekker myself would love to have entered it.

Quoted from dogglebe I still think the Star Trek challenge was brilliant.

there was nothing wrong with it, but it appeared too many people were not familiar enough with the show (I was one of those) or liked it enough to want to write 30 pages about it.

You did good.  ;)

Maybe, next time, we'll do Twilight.


Phil

What's that?

Quoted from Grandma Bear What's that?

I think it's this sci - fi movie where it gets dark for a long time on the planet and these flying creatures come out to prey on visitors.

Twilight Zone????

BRING IT ON...

Shawn.....><

Quoted from Grandma Bear What's that?

A thin steak done to death.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Twilight

I think Twilight Zone, complete with Rod Serling monologue opening, would be incredibly fun to do.  I absolutely loved Rod Serling -- But in a manly way, not the way you're thinking...  (looks around)

Relax people! I know that show!!  Liked it too!  :)

Quoted from Hugh Hoyland I posted a rewrite couple of days ago. Not heard anything yet. I guess it might take a while to get posted. I assume in shorts, but not sure.

Hugh,

Apology for the delay.  As mentioned by someone, it is in the same place as the original submission.  

For the rest of you, I am slowly getting the 'real' names up.  

Don

Submitted for your approval...

Man I would dig a TWILIGHT ZONE OWC as well.

When they do the 24 hour marithones on Sy-Fy we don't move the channel.

Shawn.....><

Quoted from Don Hugh, Apology for the delay.  As mentioned by someone, it is in the same place as the original submission.   For the rest of you, I am slowly getting the 'real' names up.   Don

No prob Don. Thanks for posting it!

Quoted from Ledbetter Man I would dig a TWILIGHT ZONE OWC as well.

With the exception of the intro and summary by Rod Serling, how would this be any different from any other OWC?  It wouldn't be any different from Soulshadows.


Phil

It would definitely be no different than Soulshadows which was created based on Twilight Zone.

How long ago was SoulShadows done?

How many new poeple are now on Simply Scripts?

How many new ideas can be brought to the table with the new pool of writers who have never read Soulshadows?

Like myself...

Shawn.....><

There's a Soulshadows 3D in discussion.  There's a thread about it right here...

http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-collaborate/m-1294969398/

The correct place to discuss it.

Thank you...

But I wasn't discussing the Soulshadows series...

You were.

I was discussing The Twilight Zone.

Perhaps a discussion for another day.

Shawn.....><

I think a Twilight Zone theme is too vague.  That show, though great, would be too vague for a theme.  It would be saying:

GENRE:  Suspense
THEME:  something scary.


Phil

Phil,

Why is Twilight Zone so vague?

Was the Star Trek OWC vague?

Was it...

Genre: Sci-Fi

Theme: Subject no one likes?

No, it was Star Trek. Write a script based on the actual show. Right??


Shawn.....><

With the STC, you had to write a script using established characters.  That's where the challenge is.  Rod Serling gave his monologue with a deadpan delivery.  That's no challenge in that.


Phil

Quoted from dogglebe I think a Twilight Zone theme is too vague.  That show, though great, would be too vague for a theme.  It would be saying: GENRE:  Suspense THEME:  something scary. Phil

I dunno, man, Twilight Zone had sub-genre's within the show.

They had Si-fi
They had suspense
They had oddity
They had horror

You could be restrictive within the shackles.  

GENRE:  Si-Fi
THEME: Space explorers on a collision course with the sun have to make a choice between landing on -- PLANET A. an icy, un-inhabitable planet with a under ground advanced civilization or PLANET B a prehistoric planet with primitive life -- in hopes of survival.

The writer could then decide which planet they wanted to set their story on.  Like a choose your own adventure book in a way.  Each writer's vision could/would be vastly different and each take of the planets would be neat to see unfolded.  Hell, now thinking about it we could leave the Twiligth Zone out of the mix and just go for Si-fi.

Quoted from Ledbetter P Genre: Sci-Fi Theme: Subject no one likes? No, it was Star Trek. Write a script based on the actual show. Right??

I liked the Star Trek OWC.  

Balt-

Couldn't have said it better myself.

That was the truely brilliant thing about TWZ.


Michael,

Lets face it. Star Trek's shammy has been drained of every single ounce originality over the last 30 or so years. Let 'em off the ship already.

I think that's why most people simply are not interested in that show anymore.

No offence to anyone here.

Its just been done and done and done and....

Shawn.....><

I WILL KILL EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU!!!

I apologize.  I shouldn't be doing that...

TZ is too vague.  As Balt pointed out, it could be horror or sci-fi or suspense or WTF...  Why even have one if there is that much room to play with?  Even if you were to throw in a limitation (ie: it must take place in a bar), there is still too much room to play with.


Phil

TZ has a solid recognizable feel. You can always recognize a TZ story when you see it. It's tough to pull off.

How many OWC scripts get produced? I know it's supposed to be a challenge, but why not do something people actually want to do as well?  Besides, to many writers, writing a 12 page short in one week is the challenge. Not the genre and theme...

There is a nuance to the Twilight zone that makes it different from other shows. The show has to bear a certain signature that anyone who has ever watched the show recognizes it as such.

In the way Star Trek had its own voice; TWZ has its own voice also.

That's the trick. Catching that wind.

The twilight zone sets a stage, gives you a short story and ever so slightly pulls the rug at the end. They are never overboard, and sometimes silly.

But when you say vague, I don't see it.

Shawn.....><

Good point Pia.  

Not sure how many other UK producers like Rick are out there looking for Celtic horror shorts.

Quoted from Grandma Bear How many OWC scripts get produced?

I have two...   ;D  Actually three if you count that mp3.   ;D ;D


Phil

Excellent point Stevie and Pia.

Writing to meet the challange is the central goal in a OWC.

Finding a subject everyone likes tends to help as well.

Shawn.....><

I liked the idea of the Star Trek challenge and considered trying it, but in the end it was difficult to justify investing the time.

I’d suggest a future challenge that asks us to write a spec of any TV show we choose. That would give us a chance to produce something we could use as a work sample.

It doesn’t matter if reviewers are familiar with the shows because when you submit sample work you don’t know if the person reading it will know the show or not. I’ve heard it suggested that it’s better if they don’t, since that way they can’t pick holes in what you’ve done!

So if OWC goes back to TV I'd suggest leaving the choice of show open and having the challenge be to produce spec sample that's ready to send to TV producers.

Quoted from stevie Good point Pia.   Not sure how many other UK producers like Rick are out there looking for Celtic horror shorts.

I know a few. Send me your contact info and I'll pass it along. They are using a private Facebook group to manage everything. No guarantees.

If I had a say I would suggest making the theme something that can be produced. A Star Trek thing might be cool, but ultimately a waste of time.

Quoted from pwhitcroft I’d suggest a future challenge that asks us to write a spec of any TV show we choose. That would give us a chance to produce something we could use as a work sample.

If this is what you want, then I strongly recommend the Disney/ABC Television Writing Program.


Phil

I'm with Pia too on this.

OWC's let us exercise our "short skills" and leave us with something which can be eventually produced.... Plus there are only 12 pages or so, which means more entries and more reads...

Quoted from keaton01 I know a few. Send me your contact info and I'll pass it along. They are using a private Facebook group to manage everything. No guarantees.

       Steve McDonell    steve-abbey@hotmail.com

Quoted from keaton01 I know a few. Send me your contact info and I'll pass it along. They are using a private Facebook group to manage everything. No guarantees.

Harley Wolfe     E-Mail: Wolfesaint8@aol.com

Quoted from keaton01 I know a few. Send me your contact info and I'll pass it along. They are using a private Facebook group to manage everything. No guarantees.

Just point them here.

http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1299380237/

Getting back to OWC diiscussion, my first one here was in January 2009, when we did a collab challenge. with a sci-fi/future scenario challenge.

Now, I know some people here look upon the word 'collab' with the same distaste as 'genital rot', but I thought this was a great challenge.

I didn't really know that many SS people, conversation wise, and i was paired with the man himself...JEFF BUSH!!! We had a ball, emailing ideas and stuff, and we got to know each other better. And the stuff I learned was invaluable, as I was still green in scrrenwriting.

Another challenge similair to this would be cool; if we set some parameters, so it, maybe a 25 pages script in 2 weeks, and have 15 teams of two, I dunno, whatever.

The pairing can be random to make it more interesting - if anyone wasn't happy they could pull out, as happens in any OWC - and I feel the quality of these scripts would be pretty special.

Anyway, just some thoughts

Cheers stevie

Quoted from keaton01 I know a few. Send me your contact info and I'll pass it along. They are using a private Facebook group to manage everything. No guarantees.

khamanna@hotmail.com

Thanks Chris!