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Posted: May 8th, 2008, 1:19pm Report to Moderator
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Could someone explain to me why so many people post their scripts on this site and then cry when people critique them? Is that not one of the points of this site?
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Because they don't want critiques of their work which will help them grow and improve as a writer. All these people want is the egos stroked and for everybody to share the same delusion that they seem to have, which is  that their script is the best thing EVER written.

Or to put it simply... to waste our time


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Or they may just want their scripts available to filmmakers, but not necessarily feedback from forum members...





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Quoted from Grandma Bear
Or they may just want their scripts available to filmmakers, but not necessarily feedback from forum members...





Except over half of these scripts would never be produced, because in their current shape they are not good!
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A person's ego is strong. Watch Revolver and you'll see what I mean.

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Quoted from Pants
Could someone explain to me why so many people post their scripts on this site and then cry when people critique them? Is that not one of the points of this site?



I wasn't aware that this problem was such an epidemic on the boards, but after awhile you figure out who's looking for feedback and ways to improve their writing, and those who simply don't care.  You'll probably find certain authors whose work you enjoy as well, and will give them a little more leeway down the line if you don't care for one of their stories.

Outside of that, some people get pissed because the feedback that's left is just plain shitty.  And I mean quality wise, not rudeness.


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I wasn't aware that this problem was such an epidemic on the boards, but after awhile you figure out who's looking for feedback and ways to improve their writing, and those who simply don't care.  You'll probably find certain authors whose work you enjoy as well, and will give them a little more leeway down the line if you don't care for one of their stories.

Outside of that, some people get pissed because the feedback that's left is just plain shitty.  And I mean quality wise, not rudeness.


I'm referring to the people who receive really good constructive criticism and whine like babies. The bottom line is, if their scripts were so great they wouldn't be posting them on this site. They'd be selling them to Hollywood producers. As for your comment about the ones looking for feedback, I assumed that's why people posted their scripts here. If not fine, but then there should be a special place for those scripts to get posted. We can call it the "I don't care what you think if my master piece so don't bother reading it section." How about that? I know...brilliant idea!
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All should be treated equally. It takes some time to learn to differentiate btw the two groups, but not mcuh.

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I might have mentioned this earlier but one way of combing out those "don't care" scripts would be for Don not to create a message board thread for the scripts submitted by people that don't fill out the message board nickname when they submit their script.

The scripts would still be posted on the main site of course but it'll save some members the time of writing a review that the writer won't read anyway.


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Quoted from Pants


Except over half of these scripts would never be produced, because in their current shape they are not good!


That is your opinion, but perhaps not the author's...



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The people who receive good criticism and whine like babies, well, now you know that they whine like babies when they receive good criticism, so you can check them off of your authors to read list.

How do you know people aren't attempting to pitch their scripts to Hollywood producers while their on this site?  Yes, it's a terribly wrong thing to do since the script is most likely nowhere near ready, but it happens.

Most people do post their scripts for feedback, which is why I said earlier that I wasn't aware that the "whiny asses" had become such an epidemic.

Most likely nobody would flag their script in the "I don't care" section.  Case in point, Mr. & Mrs. Black.  The author started out with something along the lines of "any feedback is appreciated" and it quickly went south after that, assumingly when he wasn't told how great it was.

If you're worried about people being non-receptive to feedback, pay attention to the author.  Are they a member here?  Do they participate regularly?  Things like that can go a long way toward reducing your "grief".

Another option is to look at the "Simply Recommended Scripts" thread.  A high percentage of the scripts there are by members open to feedback.

I'd include the link, but the board is a little slow loading for me at the moment.


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I might have mentioned this earlier but one way of combing out those "don't care" scripts would be for Don not to create a message board thread for the scripts submitted by people that don't fill out the message board nickname when they submit their script.

The scripts would still be posted on the main site of course but it'll save some members the time of writing a review that the writer won't read anyway.


That's kind of a tough one because some people don't notice the board right away, but sign up after submitting their script.

The username is usually included in Don's initial script posting, except in cases where the names are the same (me, Cindy, George, Zack, and Guy to name a few), but I've gathered that a lot of people kind of miss that since I've seen people complain about someone leaving feedback for someone that's not around, then turn around and do that exact same thing the very next day.



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Quoted from Shelton

That's kind of a tough one because some people don't notice the board right away, but sign up after submitting their script.

I understand where you're coming from, Mike, but it's really an easy fix. "All" Don has to do is make a little pop-up message that tells the one submiting the script, that if they want to give other board members the oppotunity to review the script then they must have a message board profile.




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What about if they do sign in and then don't respond or review? I think people do this: sign up, submit scripts, and never come back.

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I didn't say it was perfect, Gabe - just a step in the right direction.


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