Quoted from JamminGirl as soon as debate reach a point where we might have to start using our wits instead of emotions, people say, "close the thread!". Well close it, I got stuff to do anyways, I'm getting dressed to go somewhere...

On the contrary, it's you who has reduced it to an emotional level by refusing to explore or answer evidence presented to you that refutes your claims.

Debate ends at that point and it just becomes a slanging match.

Quoted from JamminGirl Is wikipedia the new gospel? You do know that anyone(yourself included) can edit a wikipedia page in anywhich way he/she pleases, right?

Which is why articles must be backed up by references.

Quoted from JamminGirl There is absolutely no proof (provided by anyone) that it isn't.

A very typical logical fallacy.

Quoted from greg I felt the same way when Prop 8 here in California was first brought up.

I remember hearing, somewhere, that the majority of people in minority communities are against gay marriages.

I guess they forgot what it was like only a few decades ago.

And for the record, this thread should be closed ASAP.  With no new scripts coming on the board, we can use this opportunity to read older scripts, or we can continue posting on this thread to nowhere.


Phil

Quoted from JamminGirl as soon as debate reach a point where we might have to start using our wits instead of emotions, people say, "close the thread!".

There was no debate here.  It was a discussion -- or perhaps more of an exploration.

But when one begins to espouse volatile opinions as inarguable facts -- dismissing peer-reviewed literature as "junk science" -- while with their next breath citing Russian behavioral studies where children were confined to crates --

-- well, then you get the debate -- because it just boggles the mind.

Quoted from Phil And for the record, this thread should be closed ASAP.

  

Noted -- but there is no reason to lock this thread -- though threads such as this have been locked or even deleted entirely in the past.

And then people bitch that the mods treat everyone like children.  It is really a no-win situation.

I thought everyone was being pretty cool about it, but you have "I told you so" rights later, Phil, if it comes up.

The trouble starts when you jump on here claiming that YOUR opinion is THE right one.

Don't do that.  That just makes you look silly.  

Yeah, I don't see what the problem is.  If people want to discuss, they should discuss it.  If people want to read three yeard old screenplays, they should do that.  I would recommend Producing Fiction or that funny one that Shelton wrote that Artie Lange should be starring in.  

Quoted from dogglebe With no new scripts coming on the board, we can use this opportunity to read older scripts, or we can continue posting on this thread to nowhere.

Then get cracking, Phil, no one's stopping you. With the exeption of one poster, I think everyone here has offered valid opinions and, in general, been open to others' without condemning anyone. A discussion usually fizzles out when everyone have said what they needed to say. I'm sure the same will happen with this one.

It occurs to me that I never actually answered Heretic's question:


In my opinion homosexuality, for whatever reason, is entirely natural and normal. I think that most people's sexuality is on a scale somewhere between the absolutes of being straight and being gay.

As Michael (was it?) mentioned about the Bonobo's, perhaps we had a similar evolution and homosexual behaviour has or had some role to fulfill in our society.

Regardless, I think people should be allowed to do whatever they want, as long as it's between consenting adults and they aren't hurting anyone else.

I believe they should be treated equally in law and be allowed to adopt.

Where I am from there is a very large gay community and I would suspect most people work or have friends who are openly gay. We have a whole area of town that is for gay people.

The media in particular (in fact all creative industries) tend to attract a disproportionate number of gays, so you're bound to be working with them if you enter that field.

It's interesting that India has recently legalised it having overturned on old colonial law that outlawed it in the first place. It exists in all cultures, even ones where people are killed for it, a clear sign to me that it is natural and not a choice. No Iranian would choose to be homosexual.

Anyway, live and let live I suppose. To live in a liberal society and enjoy its benefits you tend to have to allow people to do things you don't necessarily agree with.

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films Regardless, I think people should be allowed to do whatever they want, as long as it's between consenting adults and they aren't hurting anyone else.

Well put.

Can anyone actually put forth an argument on how homosexuality negatively effects them?

(And please note,  "it's icky" isn't an argument.)

Quoted from dresseme (And please note,  "it's icky" isn't an argument.)

Get out of my head!  Get out of my head!

Quoted from bert I thought everyone was being pretty cool about it, but you have "I told you so" rights later, Phil, if it comes up.

I'm not saying to lock this thread because of the subject.  I'm saying to lock it because it has nothing to do with screenwriting.

In fact, all threads not related to screenwriting could be temporarily locked.  It'll promote screenwriting (and reading of screnplays).  Didn't Don do this last year?



Phil

Quoted from dresseme Can anyone actually put forth an argument on how homosexuality negatively effects them?

I don't know if it negatively affects me but I've always been put off by gays (male) who act, and I repeat, act overly feminine. Because it's so overstated imo, I've always felt like it comes across as an act and therefore fake.

Quoted from dogglebe   Didn't Don do this last year?

Time flies Phil. That was 3 years ago...

Quoted from dogglebe I'm not saying to lock this thread because of the subject.  I'm saying to lock it because it has nothing to do with screenwriting. In fact, all threads not related to screenwriting could be temporarily locked.  It'll promote screenwriting (and reading of screnplays).  Didn't Don do this last year? Phil

EVERYTHING has something to do with screenwriting.

This thread does not...atleast not directly.

It would be a shame if, after two or three weeks, this thread has 300+ posts on it because people are spending time on it and not on the scripts.

I'm done with this thread....unless someone posts something really stupid on it.



Phil

Quoted from sniper I don't know if it negatively affects me but I've always been put off by gays (male) who act, and I repeat, act overly feminine. Because it's so overstated imo, I've always felt like it comes across as an act and therefore fake.

So, you experienced a moment of discomfort?  Did they come over and fondle you afterward, because if not, this seems like a pretty bland negative effect.