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Ache - OWC (currently 1864 views) |
Don |
Posted: January 24th, 2020, 5:21pm |
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LocationVirginia Posts16481 Posts Per Day 1.93 |
Ache by Geezis Kryst - Short, Drama - The Ache comes in many forms. - pdf format
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JEStaats |
Posted: January 25th, 2020, 1:10pm |
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Old Timer No sh*t, there I was....
LocationTucson, AZ Posts1739 Posts Per Day 0.61 |
Another new writer? Congratulations for entering. A nice little story (if I understood it correctly), but it needs a lot of work. - Grammar and punctuation; - Super long dialogue and action blocks; and - Dialogue as a whole seems awkward.
Keep writing and read a lot of scripts. You'll get it. |
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ghost and_ghostie gal |
Posted: January 25th, 2020, 5:44pm |
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LocationA helluva long way from LA Posts1568 Posts Per Day 0.29 |
^^^^ Can't argue with that.
Death and loss always gets me.
Alex is way too melodramatic and OTN. Every scene should advance the plot or character arc, but every scene does not have to be melodramatic.
Looks like you're a green writer. Which is not necessarily a bad thing. You can't learn and improve unless you put in the time and effort. And clearly you're doing just that. Kudos for entering.
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Bayne |
Posted: January 25th, 2020, 10:01pm |
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You have a strong opening here. The racing through corridors and gradual reveal of the outer space setting is intriguing. "The Boat" is a nice touch.
After that, you rely too much on dialogue and exposition. You clearly have a handle on Alex and Susan's backstories, which is great (and important). Rather than revealing their backstories through extensive dialogue, I recommend breaking it up with some added visuals. Ex: Brief flashbacks (such as Alex's experience with losing a loved one) can help make your story more effective.
As _ghostwriters mentioned above, easing back on the melodrama may also help improve the script. Subtle emotions can be very powerful when conveyed properly. Alex doesn't have to describe his experience in detail. A solemn look in his eye may be enough at certain points. This has potential to be a poignant story about grief. It just needs the "less is more" approach. |
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eldave1 |
Posted: January 26th, 2020, 12:28pm |
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LocationSouthern California Posts6875 Posts Per Day 1.92 |
No need to number the scene headings.
Okay - there are typos and format errors everywhere - I just want to read this for the story, so if you would like more detailed feedback PM me.
The dialogue blocks are way too long and exposition laden.
Story - there is a nugget here - but the writing keeps it from shining like it should.
Good title.
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stevemiles |
Posted: January 26th, 2020, 3:46pm |
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I liked the urgency of the opening though the story wandered from there and I’m not sure I really followed.
The ache is loss and Alex wants a way out. Susan understands as she too has felt loss and gives him a knife (way to go Sue…) but he decides to live instead.
Is this loss tied to the concept in some way or the character? I mean, the space station setting didn’t seem all that necessary. I’m a bit lost there and feel like I'm missing a bigger part of this story. That could be on me.
Not a fan of naval gazing monologues—less is usually more. Even better if you find a way to convey a sense of loss/emotion through action and not dialogue.
The criteria is there. Just not sure what to take from the story.
Good luck. |
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AnthonyCawood |
Posted: January 26th, 2020, 5:41pm |
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LocationUK Posts4329 Posts Per Day 1.12 |
Another one numbering the scenes, no biggie but that is normally used in shooting scripts.
Okay, so the start is fine, the urgency well conveyed... but then it gets very talky and I think it tailed off at that point.
If he was so desperate to take his own life there are other methods, seems odd that he must do it with a knife.
And, the syringe is actually a knife manufactured by a company called CYRNG? That feels like a bit of a cheat.
Well done for entering. |
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Matthew Taylor |
Posted: January 27th, 2020, 10:13am |
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LocationShakespeare's county Posts1770 Posts Per Day 0.86 |
I'm aching to read another script, so here I am Logline gives me nothing, I'm going in blind. Not really for me - Others have already said enough so I won't pile on. Well done for entering |
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Heretic |
Posted: January 27th, 2020, 2:29pm |
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LocationVancouver, British Columbia, Canada Posts2023 Posts Per Day 0.28 |
As I go:
- A pet peeve of mine: characters should always open with their strongest argument unless there's a reason not to. He's gotta get to that ship for that syringe, but it takes him a page of back-and-forth with security to spit it out. That's what he's thinking about, that's what he wants -- the first thing he's gonna say is, "Syringe!" - Exposition is overwritten I think -- we learn more than we need to if Alex is gonna spill the beans in the second scene anyway. When you have a good emotional moment -- Alex arrives and sees that the ship has gone -- get out of its way and let your character just experience it. Consider what would be different if you cut literally all of the dialogue out of the first scene. I think: not too much. - Alex's monologue lacks specificity, I think. The way to connect us with his grief is to make it specifically about HIS grief, about what his day to day life was like -- not to try to encapsulate grief in general in a monologue verging on the poetic.
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- A familiar tale that's definitely sincere and properly dramatic, but lacks, as above, specificity. For Alex's choice to hit us, we have to understand what he's like as a person, what specific experiences and moments have led him to be here as we see him now. - Not enough worldbuilding around the knife. Why would the knife be the only option? Similarly, I'm fine to imagine a world where Susan would offer the opportunity that she does, but it'd be good to drop hints as to how their society got to this point. - Less is more. Less dialogue, less exposition, less high emotion. The world is made up of quiet moments, too, and I think this scripts needs to find some of those.
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MarkRenshaw |
Posted: January 28th, 2020, 4:27am |
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LocationUK Posts2335 Posts Per Day 0.58 |
I like the idea of the Ache and the concept of the Boat but neither are explored to any degree of satisfaction. What we have is a lot of telling through dialogue with little to no showing. I guess this is a newish screenwriter so I’d suggest reading a lot of produced screenplays to get a feel for how it generally works and keep on writing.
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Arundel |
Posted: January 28th, 2020, 3:41pm |
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LocationLas Vegas, Nevada Posts265 Posts Per Day 0.14 |
Good space noir. Enjoyed the action lines but the dialog was a bit sloppy. Some run on sentences, awkward descriptions in the dialog, and a few long monologues. Mostly liked it though. Criteria was met. Sparse title and writing drew this reader in. |
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PrussianMosby |
Posted: January 28th, 2020, 8:19pm |
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Posts1399 Posts Per Day 0.36 |
Hi,
Imo you should cut the dialogue on second half p1 to p2, it's too static and nothing happens in the picture.
same on p3 – give us a vivid picture with movement
yeah, the script stays very dialogue-heavy all along.
You raise some emotions for sure and I think you have the sensibility to write stories with great depth and muchos intelligence.
This one was a little passive. The whole thing would work better if you could compress the long talks and, you know, put the essence of emotions from the long dialogue-blocks, into each and every spoken sentence-> as said just compress it. In other words, don't overwrite, rather bundle the power to more power. This will massively improve the drama.
You've got it in you and I like that it feels you truly want to say something meaningful to me, the reader. And that's a very strong quality in my eyes. Looking forward to your next stuff. |
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Spqr |
Posted: January 29th, 2020, 5:31pm |
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Posts483 Posts Per Day 0.08 |
Alex trying to bull his way past the Security Men on page 1 should have earned him a taseing at the very least, just to add some needed action to the proceedings.
Alex’s melodramatic monologue on pages 4-5 is way over the top. This self-pitying guy needs to be put out of his misery.
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Gum |
Posted: January 29th, 2020, 5:59pm |
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LocationSome travelling Circus... Posts832 Posts Per Day 0.41 |
Hi writer,
OK, a man loses his twin-flame and can never regain a coherent state of mind, takes to addiction to mask the pain, and when that’s gone; contemplates suicide, but finds the courage to go on in the face of his mental adversity.
The dialog either came from a place of knowledge, meaning you know someone close who passed away (if so, terrible thing), or you’re writing under the assumption that this is how it might play out if something extremely sorrowful came to visit you.
Regardless, Alex appears to be carrying around an entity of immense weight on his back, each and every stab of the ‘medicine’ he so longs for is like picking up another stone to carry, eventually fate will intervene when the load becomes too much to bear.
ALEX: “I thought he would be different this time. I have his money. If only he left it, I would have been fine, I could have been ok”
Appears ‘he’ didn’t want Alex’s money anymore, perhaps ‘he’ is actually the saviour Alex was looking for, but wasn’t quite ready to face the demons until the forces that be sent him someone to share the pain with, a hand if you will, to pull him from his chasm of despair… Susan.
Best of luck… |
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mmmarnie |
Posted: January 31st, 2020, 12:33am |
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New writer. Long, overwritten action blocks, no character development, long dialog...but you wrote a story. Good. Keep writing and reading. Read lots of screenplays.
You piqued my interest here but nothing was explained. Metal is contraband? Why? Where are they? What's their world like? And Alex just came off as this totally whiney guy. That's literally how his dialog read in my head. Make us care about him. And we won't connect from just a long speach about how his life sucks...make us really feel something.
Congrats on entering. Keep writing. |
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Britman |
Posted: January 31st, 2020, 9:32am |
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Obviously a new writer here so hats off for getting a script in. This didn't do much for me, unfortunately. Descriptions and dialogue need a lot of work. The story should be told through action not dialogue just keep that in mind. |
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PKCardinal |
Posted: January 31st, 2020, 5:15pm |
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LocationKansas Posts1448 Posts Per Day 0.62 |
The good news is that you have a good idea and the bones of a good story. That hints at undeveloped talent.
As everyone else has mentioned, every bit of the good is overrun by basic errors in craft.
Show, don't tell. Learn to write in visuals. I suggest trying to tell this story in half the pages and with NO dialogue, just as an exercise for yourself. It would be hard, but I bet you'd learn a bunch about writing visually.
Mainly, I'd say study a bunch of scripts. Maybe find the script of your favorite movie and read it while watching it.
And, keep writing. Something tells me you'll improve very quickly.
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SAC |
Posted: January 31st, 2020, 11:39pm |
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Of The Ancients … but some dreams do
LocationUpstate NY Posts3213 Posts Per Day 0.78 |
Writer,
I didn't read any comments, but I'm assuming they all say kinda what I will. Your attempts at criteria were misguided, as you can't just allude to space with us seeing a UFO - I mean, what the hell was a UFO doing there anyway. And you only mentioned a skeleton and a syringe. So, apparently you got the wrong impression as to how to go about writing this and that's cool. I can feel the passion you were trying to get across, now you just need to make it into a cohesive story and get it across better than you did.
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DustinBowcot |
Posted: February 1st, 2020, 4:21am |
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I've no idea what type of corridor I'm meant to be seeing. Are they concrete, old, modern, painted white? I have no idea at all. That was a struggle. A real struggle. This is the 4th I've read on the trot that has just been too much hard work for me to read thoroughly.
Criteria Met (Y/N) – I don't care. Story (1-5) – 0.5 Characters (1-5) – 0.5 Dialogue (1-5) – 0.5 Writing (1-5) – 0 Overall (1-10) – 0.75 |
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Geezis |
Posted: February 3rd, 2020, 5:46pm |
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January Project Group There's always a single malt waiting for you.
LocationGlasgow, Scotland Posts411 Posts Per Day 0.26 |
Yeah, this wasn't good, but it was my first ever attempt at writing so I'm proud I had the berries to submit it.
Thanks to everyone who gave me feedback, good, bad or indifferent, although you may not know it, it's great for me to learn and progress so hopefully my next effort will be better.
And thanks for all the encouragement, I'll keep going and while I might never win the mug, I might earn a thimble one day.
Cheers
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LC |
Posted: February 3rd, 2020, 6:00pm |
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LocationThe Great Southern Land Posts7668 Posts Per Day 1.34 |
Okay, confused me there with your change of username... |
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Posted: February 3rd, 2020, 6:06pm |
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Okay, confused me there with your change of username... |
Wasn't that the point? |
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Geezis |
Posted: February 4th, 2020, 5:05am |
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January Project Group There's always a single malt waiting for you.
LocationGlasgow, Scotland Posts411 Posts Per Day 0.26 |
Okay, confused me there with your change of username... |
Sorry, everyone else has a cool name, so I wanted one. Can’t see green cheese......... |
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