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Herodreamer79
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i'm thinking about doing a slasher flick.... and i want to do it in that sort of survival fashion "small stranded group of characters vs one madman with a big knife.."

with that said... i have two dilemmas i need help with.... setting... and # of characters.

the most obvious place to do a slasher flick like this is either in the dessert, in the woods, on a ship (in space or at sea) what do you/would find most intriguing???

and with my second dilemma... how many characters should be used in this? taking into account i like to establish all my characters and give them interesting arcs...before killing them off. i hate it when horror films just kill people off and you dont care "IE Wrong Turn"

this of course needs to be balanced against a sufficiant body count to satisfy the horror fan's blood thirst.


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In a slasher flick, the obvious setting is the woods which has been overdone too many times with Friday the 13th, Sleepaway Camp, and other movies. I suppose you do a ship cause that was never overdone many times except for movies that have to do with the supernatural or monsters.

The average number of main characters are usually 5. At least all known horror movies have at least 4 - 5 characters, and it depends on how well done the killings are, not just on how much the body count is. Sleepaway camp had at least 7-15 ( I Lost Count) killings and they were done off screen which in my opinion was lame. So it matters on how well done it is.

I hope this is helpful.

E.T.


Fear Friday: some students will die to survive a twisted killer. Coming soon.
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Here's a piece of advice, HD:

STOP POSTING SHIT ON THE BOARDS!!

You started posting here only two days ago and you've started your third project already, completely forgetting about the other two.  You keep asking for advice and then you move on, wasting everyone's time.  

Keep this up and you'll never write a script and everyone will ignore because you have the reputation of someone who comes up with hundreds of ideas and works on none of them.


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Quoted from dogglebe
Here's a piece of advice, HD:

STOP POSTING SHIT ON THE BOARDS!!

You started posting here only two days ago and you've started your third project already, completely forgetting about the other two.  You keep asking for advice and then you move on, wasting everyone's time.  

Keep this up and you'll never write a script and everyone will ignore because you have the reputation of someone who comes up with hundreds of ideas and works on none of them.


Phil




dude, chill out

i'm here to get feedback on projects i've been working on.

if you have a problem with my posts, take it up with don. dont clutter the boards with uncalled for and irrational posts.

thanks


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You started out with Jack and Jill.  Then you started talking about Welcome Home Benjamin.  Now you're asking about a slasher film which you haven't given much thought to.

As I said earlier, others use to flood the boards with their idea du jour.  After a certain point, no one responds to them and they disappear.  Trying to help you out here.  I'll stop.


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Noted.


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I think you should do it on a ship or something. Like this guy could be a professional at killing, and soon everybody on board is dead except for only a few survivors who try and get out, but each mysteriously (okay not THAT mysteriously) get killed. Then you can have the killer end up being shot off the boat and getting sucked up by the propellors or something. Just my idea on a slasher flick.

As for the number of characters, as E.T. said, probably 4-5 at the least. I mean you could have more, but soon people will lose track of the characters, and you might accidentally leave out a character as well. I have, and it wasn't cool when I found out because I had to change all this stuff in my script and it got so irritating.

Good luck on this script, that is, if you finish it.

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should the killer already be on the boat? should he speak? i notice some horror films not have the killer talk.

i used to have a problem forgetting characters too.. now i make a list and write a few sentences out about their personality and what they look like....

then when they die... i cross out their name


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These are all things you should really work out yourself.  This is what I would suggest:

Work up your different senarios.  Put in a lot of thought before posting.  Then post the senarios you can't decide between but have a good solid foundation, then ask for opinion.

You really don't want everyone else to write your script for you, (or maybe you do) therefore you should do the head work, flesh out your synopsis, get a few characters and such, then ask for opinions, so we have something to comment on, rather than broad whimsicle ideas.

Just a thought, good luck.

Sara


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Phil has a point, don't overload yourself. Work on one project then once you have that established and at least know where you're going with it then you can think about other projects. I use to post every little idea I had, now I just post the ones I know I'm going to work on.
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Quoted from Herodreamer79

the most obvious place to do a slasher flick like this is either in the dessert... what do you/would find most intriguing???


Definitely the dessert. It's certainly original and it gives you license to place your heroes in some sticky situations. I recommend a trifle, and throw in some custard at the end of act one.

I'm not sure why anyone wants to write slasher flicks any more. They've been done to death. If you want to do this, avoid all the cliches (yes, I know Scream tells you "the rules" but I get so tired watching a bunch of idiotic teens running up the stairs.) If I were you, I'd avoid teens altogether. Maybe set it in a factory on the night shift where a disgruntled ex-employee returns for a murderous rampage against his former colleagues.
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Quoted from Martin
If you want to do this, avoid all the cliches...


Here is the coolest idea for a slasher that I will never, ever use:

Set it in a nursing home, with old people.  But don't do a "Bubba Ho Tep" with it.  Play it straight.  Not for laughs.  Could be really chilling stuff if you do it right.

The title should be "Expiration Date".

If anybody writes this I gaurantee that lots of people will read it.


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I think you've mentioned this idea before. I actually started writing an outline but eventually got distracted and moved on to something else. Maybe I'll dig it up.
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Martin:  If you are ever crazy enough to work up a draft for this -- and if you want to -- you send it on and let me spend a few weeks with it, OK?

(Just Martin.  Please don't flood my mailbox with ideas for bedpan killings... )


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Haha... sounds like you secretly wanna write it yourself. I have a lot of stuff in progress at the moment but I'll have a look on my other PC when it's fixed and see if I can rustle up that outline.
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Quoted from bert


Here is the coolest idea for a slasher that I will never, ever use:

Set it in a nursing home, with old people.  But don't do a "Bubba Ho Tep" with it.  Play it straight.  Not for laughs.  Could be really chilling stuff if you do it right.

The title should be "Expiration Date".

If anybody writes this I gaurantee that lots of people will read it.



Something like this?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071617/

Homebodies (1974)

A group of pensioners fight back when their building is threatened to be torn down.

I remember seeing this a loooooooong time ago, and thought it was pretty interesting.  The nursing home setting would make a nice change, and it could be a cool story, especially when old Mrs. Farmer drowns some poor orderly in the applesauce she's been collecting for the past few months because he ended TV time 5 minutes early.



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Or here's an idea that no one ever uses. Begin by writing a straight drama. Work out the characters, give it a great setup and premise, and then pull the rug out by turning it into a slasher. Well-rounded characters and situations are the weakest link of the entire slasher genre. Imagine: not only are the kills graphic, but you cared when the character died. You felt the pain of the other when their chum died. Someday, perhaps...


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That's why they call them "Flicks"  if you had a great story line and timeless characters it would no longer be a flick.  I'm all for the developing of good story lines and characters and not just a endless stream of gore and death and violence.


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HD someone said me one day when I start to write scripts: " Helio, to write a screenplay is the same you kick your own a**! "
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Quoted from Herodreamer79
the most obvious place to do a slasher flick like this is either in the dessert, in the woods, on a ship (in space or at sea) what do you/would find most intriguing???


sorry if someone already made a comment like this... but i read this and i become so confused i blacked out (not really)... but how the hell are any of these places (other than in the woods because that's been DONE so much) obvious places to do a slasher flick? desert (dessert is the sweet stuff... it has 2 s's because you always want seconds... remember? second grade?)... and did you actually think to yourself "i wanna write a slasher flick... hmmm.... space ship, or boat... space ship... boat"

if you have an original story idea that has a reason for it taking place on a ship and you use that reason the whole time then please do that... but if it just think it'll be neat to plcae it on a ship then please spare us...

please do something original... i mean... we've all seen this a 100 times... do we really wanna read it too?


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The only slasher I've ever wanted to do, is a slasher involving reality tv show applicants and all of it on pirated airwaves with a group of people trapped on an island with two serial killers.  All so the producer can have his revenge against the studio who rejected his idea.  Main revenge, he has the CEO's daughter on the island and they are somewhere near Jamaca where there are no Extradition laws.  That's the only slasher I've wanted to write and mostly because I hate reality tv shows.
Sara

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I would call it Last One Standing (but I think the title is taken.)


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Hey, I like that idea. Sort of a REAL Survivors. I bet you they'd actually get people that would be willing to participate too. All for that 15 min of fame.
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Yeah that's what I wanted it to be.  But under the disguise of being just an ordinary tv show.  I could put the synopsis up if you wanted to read it.


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I read a book where this was part of the story. I liked it until the thing killing the people was some weird, created by science creature. Still, I think it could be made into something good, especially since your average person seem so eager to do absolutely anything to be on tv.
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That is disappointing.  Mine would not have any sci-fi creatures.  It will take me about a week to write the first draft.  When i get it done I will post the link.


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Quoted from Helio
HD someone said me one day when I start to write scripts: " Helio, to write a screenplay is the same you kick your own a**! "


Helio, I love that saying.


I don’t understand why anyone would want to write something that already has so many rules laid out for it. It sounds more like you’re just going to plug some numbers into a formula and the darned thing will already be written for you.

It reminds me of those seventies shows where they had computers into which all you had to do was punch some info and it would miraculously tell you the villain’s next target.

Here’s an idea; take all those rules and avoid them at all costs.

Make sure you use any locations other than those. Somewhere no one would suspect. Somewhere like Clown School or a rodeo.

Write down all the clichés and avoid them like a sandstorm.


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By the way, the Clown School and rodeo thing is a joke. Please don’t write a slasher at a rodeo.


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Quoted from Breanne Mattson
By the way, the Clown School and rodeo thing is a joke. Please don’t write a slasher at a rodeo.


Ha.

Classic breanne.  That was hilarious.  
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Quoted from Breanne Mattson
By the way, the Clown School and rodeo thing is a joke. Please don’t write a slasher at a rodeo.


So much for my next scripts, "Wild Kill Hickok"  and "Killer Rodeo Klowns from Outer Space."


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Here's mine.  The only slasher script thus far I have wanted to write.

http://www.sarapricebooks.com/scripts/lastonestanding.pdf

The rough draft is a bit short coming in at only 79 pages, but I'll work on that during editing.

Sara


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I'll take a look at it this weekend if time allows.
I'm sort tired of westerns at the moment.
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Is that what you normally read?  Westerns?


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You must have been gone for the last week. The One Week Exercise thing was Western/ visiting the general store. There were 19 of them submitted.
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Oh wow. Yeah I didn't have my computer for like a week and a half.  So I was very surprised that I wrote this rough draft with only 4 days of work.  Of course it is a bit short at 79 pages.


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I find it funny how we have 3 pages of talking for an idea board, when the guy who requested ideas hasn't been on since January 8th.....
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Yeah the miracle of finding new topics to talk about.  Well the topic was Slasher flicks so we are at least semi on task.


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Sara,

I finished "The last one standing".

Very well done!

I liked the idea of a reality show gone bad a lot. I might even do my own if I ever have the time.

You are obviously a writer and your descriptions were good, but at times a bit wordy for a screenplay.

I also think you missed a lot of good opportunities to turn up the scare factor. You had a lot of good killings and I liked the glass coffins, but I think it could have been scarier. This could just be me, I don't scare easy.

This could easily be fleshed out to a 90 pager and I think you should. Like I said, I like the idea a lot, the heat just has to be turned up a couple of levels.

I'd be happy to give you the long version of my comments, but I tend to get nit-picky about silly little things and you may not want that. Also know that I'm not an expert and this is just my opinion and should be taken as such.

Story: Good
Descriptions: Very Good
Dialogue: Good
Scare Factor: Great potential

I guess you won't have access to a computer for a couple of weeks, but I can quickly refresh my brain on the script.

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Hey,
I stopped in at the library, I couldn't resist.  I would love your detailed comments.  Like I said its a rough draft.  The more nit picky and gritty and down in the deep your comments are, the more I love em.  Harsh critiques are the best to learn from.  


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Sara, I’ll do this in parts since it’s loooong.

“The Last One Standing”

http://www.sarapricebooks.com/scripts/lastonestanding.pdf

OK here we go.

Spoilers ahead.

I will leave the typos alone since I know you did this quickly and it’s a first draft.


First off, (English is my second language so I could be wrong) the beginning is written in past tense (I think it’s called).

“The large circular office sat quiet”

“ECHOES from the day’s broadcast bounced down the hallway”

Nice description, but hard to film. Only write what we the audience can see and hear.



“Alex leans back in his desk,”

You probably meant chair.


The Computer message says “Pier 35 June 3rd 6:00 P.M.” then we’re there. Later on, the island “traps” are quite elaborate so the question here is, how did George have the time to plan this on such short notice? Maybe you could ad something like “Three months from now on June 3rd at pier 35. I know he is the producer, but still, it seems too quick to me.


“The women snickered together.”
“A bombshell brunette waltzed over,”
“Mellissa followed Valencia”
“A figured crouched near some boxes”
“Mellissa fell on her knees”


That grammar thing again, which by the way pretty much ends here.



“The drab wood and stench of fish wafts in.”

It’s hard to film the stench of fish, but if you show that there’s fish everywhere most of us will get the point, especially if she makes a face too.

You introduce Jake as sort of a Cajun grit 55 years old with no teeth. He may be a little too obvious as one of the killers since everyone else is younger and attractive. I’m also not sure if his way of speaking is Cajun, but I could be totally wrong on that.

You have Jake speak of Crocs. Here again I could be wrong, but I don’t think there are crocodiles in Louisiana. If there are I think most people are unaware and will think it’s a mistake on your part. Most people do know that there are alligators there though.

PATRICK
Hello Mellissa. I’m relieved you
made it out of the ocean unscathed.
Might I offer you a drink?

Maybe I’m just out of touch, but do 30 year old guys nowadays talk like that?

I'll post more after the weekend.  




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Here’s some more Sara, sorry I’m so slow.

Just one question here about the contest. There are 20 people including Nickton, if there will only be one survivor, wouldn’t that mean that the serial killers could expect to die as well?

There are a lot of contestants here. I had a hard time keeping them all apart. You might want to think about reducing the number and elaborate a little more on the ones left so that we can get to know them a little better.

When Kane gets his head chopped off I thought Kessler was behind it. Was that your intent?

It bothered me a little bit that Alex keep saying that they have to save Melissa and get her out of there. I know it’s his daughter, but it seems to me that you’d want to save all of them. Right now it just feels like he doesn’t give a darn about the rest and therefore he comes across as somewhat unlikable.

When Jake kills Tira I didn’t really feel any suspense or fear. I’m not sure what you would do here, but I think those feelings have to somehow be present here. Maybe it was too quick or not awful enough. He slashes her shoulder, tastes the blood then hits her over the head. Not lame, but I’m sure you can up it a bit.

I’m also having a bit of trouble with the believability of this being aired. If this was real, (which it isn’t) I think the whole world would know about it in a matter of hours. I’m also pretty sure that the government would step in immediately in order to stop this.

I liked the glass coffin idea a lot! Could be made even more gory and disgusting if the coffins were left in the sun, then they would start looking nasty real quick. Swelling, bugs and so on.

I was confused about Kessler in the tree looking and acting like a sniper. Did I miss something? Are we supposed to think he's one of the killers?

I also have a confession. I did watch Survivor last Thursday  


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Hello,
I just got home.  The wedding was great, I don't have a voice though.   Your suggestions are wonderful, I will read through them in greater depth tomorrow when I'm not so tired.  

I really appreciate this.  My biggest downfall in writing is failing to see or know how to fix my own flaws.
Sara


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More stuff,

“Nickton inspects the area just beyond Tilk and returns
quickly to the group, throwing up in some bushes.
NICKTON
God, what a mess. Let’s get outta
here.”

So, what did he see? I want to know. This is a good opportunity to gross us out, this is a slasher after all, not a mystery.

The killing of Mica was pretty good. Maybe you can make her suffering last just a little bit longer, leaving a chance for us to learn more about her and Jon.

Then we have the lesbian thing. It seems to be something that pops up quite frequently at SS.
I personally feel that if you’d like to explore this, it needs to be done or at least hinted at earlier on. I have a hard time believing that two people, anybody, would be even remotely interested in sex while two serial killers are out there hunting them. You’d have to be one hell of a horny person for that to happen.

The wild boar chase with Mellissa was pretty good.

I’m a little bit confused about who killed Mica. Was that Kessler? I had a feeling from the beginning he might be a bad guy, but later on you suggest that he’s one of the good guys even a possible romantic interest for Mellissa. (at least that’s how I took it the first time I read this)

“CREESON
You okay in there?

Ilya’s pierced head rolls out of the cave and settles at
Creeson’s feet. He steps away as if it had a contagious
disease.”

How about, jumps away from it in horror. After all, I think a chopped off head rolling to your feet is more horrific than a contagious disease, at least on the more immediate level.

Hope this isn't too trivial for you, I can only comment on what I see. Others may see things completely different.
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Not at all   I've worked on the points you mentioned and uploaded the corrections.  I will go back in for a deeper look later.  Have to nurse a sick family.

Thanks for your help, and believe me I rarely find anything too trivial.


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sorry if someone already made a comment like this... but i read this and i become so confused i blacked out (not really)... but how the hell are any of these places (other than in the woods because that's been DONE so much) obvious places to do a slasher flick? desert (dessert is the sweet stuff... it has 2 s's because you always want seconds... remember? second grade?)... and did you actually think to yourself "i wanna write a slasher flick... hmmm.... space ship, or boat... space ship... boat"

if you have an original story idea that has a reason for it taking place on a ship and you use that reason the whole time then please do that... but if it just think it'll be neat to plcae it on a ship then please spare us...

please do something original... i mean... we've all seen this a 100 times... do we really wanna read it too?


sure, if its executed well... have you read some of the scripts up here? no one heres going to be winning any screenplay awards anytime soon, so why dont you kill the attiude?


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sure, if its executed well... have you read some of the scripts up here? no one heres going to be winning any screenplay awards anytime soon, so why dont you kill the attiude?


Actually a couple of us have won screenplay writing awards and have been/will be produced.  Maybe you should kill the attitude and actually finish a script that you've started.


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... have you read some of the scripts up here? no one heres going to be winning any screenplay awards anytime soon...


Sheesh, H.D.

If you want people to read your stuff you should avoid making "blanket" statements that attack every single author on the site -- it's very alienating.  Say "few will" or "most will not" -- but saying "No One" will offend everybody.

It's OK to say "there's alot of crapp on this site" -- that's true, in fact -- but when you say something like "it's all crapp"...well, then people feel attacked and will not like you.  Just saying, you know?

There's some real gems around here that you have obviously missed.  You should look for them.



Hey, it's my tiny, little IMDb!
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I agree with Bert if I were to say we have a lot of crap members and one started this thread wouldn't you be offended?

But I haven't read many bad screenplays, maybe you should really think about telling these people through reviews instead of doing this underhanded bull that makes guys like me think you're time under the lava lamp is about finished.

Plus you forgot Phil, that guys probably got a few awards under his belt, the one guy who now has an IMDB page but if you forget all of those you may be right.


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i'm not fanatical about screenwriting like you guys are... i've already admitted i'm not that great of a writer... its like drawing.. its a skill your born with... you have it or u dont. the ideas are there... but my writing cant pull it off in a believable way. its comes off stilted and corney.

and of course its not copyrighted...so im weary of posting on the net for all see.

maybe it was a bad thread to start.... i like feedback of all kinds...not snide remarks...


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Quoted from Herodreamer79
maybe it was a bad thread to start.... i like feedback of all kinds...not snide remarks...


Sure, be happy to give you feedback. Just let us know which script is yours and we'd be happy to have a look and give you the feedback without the snide remarks.

And please don't misplace fanaticism with "working to work in that industry." I do what I do because I want to be a paid screenwriter in some capacity. The feedback I give will be to that aim to whomever I give it. If you want to call that fanaticism, so be it. By the same regard, when a student enters med school, he must be fanatical about medicine...

There may be some measure of natural talent that goes into the craft, but you can learn what to do. It takes more work and studying, but you can learn to write. You just have to be a little fanatical about it.



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i'm not fanatical about screenwriting like you guys are... i've already admitted i'm not that great of a writer... its like drawing.. its a skill your born with... you have it or u dont. the ideas are there... but my writing cant pull it off in a believable way. its comes off stilted and corney.


Fanatical? I'm offended that you take what we do and sum it up like that. Nobody on this site is fanatical about writing. They have passion, they have drive they care about their future but they aren't obsessed.

I have a real job and so do most outside of screenwriting, they want to be paid but they also have a life outside the writing.

A lot of us aren't "great" writers or we wouldn't be unproduced but we have things we do well. And that's the first step in making it somewhere. Nobody alone is a great writer but when you have a team the sky is the limit, look at Peter Jackson.

It's not my fault you made comments about everyone and can't back them up, I hope you find what you're looking for and don't start anymore stupid threads or they will be deleted.


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i'm not fanatical about screenwriting like you guys are... i've already admitted i'm not that great of a writer... its like drawing.. its a skill your born with... you have it or u dont. the ideas are there... but my writing cant pull it off in a believable way. its comes off stilted and corney.


I interpret this as you saying that you are not a good writer and you never will be.  If that's the case, why are you here?

Your problem is that you post all these ideas of yours.  Ask for advice.  And then move on to another idea.

And just because some of us are more serious about our writing than you, doesn't make us fanatics.  I've been published on-and-off for over twenty years.  I've won in competition and I'm having work produced.  I hope to make it a full time career.  I wouldn't have gotten this far if all I did was come up with half thought out ideas.


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i love how everyone zeroed in on the word 'fanatical' all i meant was "serious"

i admit i'm a below average writer who has his moments....so i need a good writer to... "pick up the slack"  while still putting in my own two cents....

anyone?


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Hey Herodreamer
Just some thoughts.

One If you want someone to write for you, fully develop your ideas first so they know what they are writing for.

Two Show us you can stay on task and not jump from project to project.  No one wants to start on a project for someone else then have them jump off to something else and then another and another.

Three Get ideas that are good enough to write.

Four Give an incentive- most serious writers have more ideas than they know what to do with.  Why should we write for you.  Do you have a production studio, do you have a producer friend, do you have any connections at all that would make it worth it?

Five Why are you doing this if you can't write, perhaps you would be better off as a producer than a writer.

Six If you do want to write, try writing.  It takes a lot of hard work and practice and there are plenty of successful writers who did not have as much natural talent as others but worked very very hard at it.

Seven Most people dont want to carry others for the sake of carrying.  Make sure you have plenty to contribute before asking people of weeks or even months of their time to do YOUR project.

Good luck and I wish you all the best in your endevors.


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i love how everyone zeroed in on the word 'fanatical' all i meant was "serious"


I love how you don't know the difference between the words fanatical and serious.

I love how you constantly come up with ideas that you never finish.

I love how you have not commented on anyone's script in all the time you've been here.



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i admit i'm a below average writer who has his moments....so i need a good writer to... "pick up the slack"  while still putting in my own two cents....


I love how you admit you're a below average writer, say that we aren't good writers, ourselves, but constantly ask others for help in writing your bullshit ideas.



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I've ranked myself as an average writer, you're only as good as your last review. I don't think I've gotten a review that said this sucks which is good because I don't like those not for the obvious reasons.

In depth reviews are more helpful, many in depth reviews have told me that I'm average which is great.

You want people to have low expectations but it's not our fault you don't concentrate on 1 idea. That's why they're bad because you have this need to write 8 things.

I also had this problem when I started and now have about 8 scripts sitting around that are weak because I gave them 20% at best and they need at least 80% to be up to par.

You don't need a co-writer, you need to focus and only you can do that.


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You can't expect us to be like parents who say "Thats great!" every time you post an idea. That'll never get you anywhere, and it is a waste of our time, because we know that you aren't going to follow through on it. So what I would do, is, post a script and not your ideas. After we read one of your scripts, then post your next script. After that, post your next script. Just forget about posting your ideas!

-Me

PS: Go comment on other peoples scripts!!! And not just corny 1 liners that won't make a difference!
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I love how you admit you're a below average writer, say that we aren't good writers, ourselves, but constantly ask others for help in writing your bullshit ideas.

Phil


well look at the bright side, Phil. it gets people talking, doesnt it? this forum can be pretty dead sometimes... i've never seen so many people posting at once since i joined 3 months ago...

anyone else wanna throw in their two cents?

btw...i got another idea for a script... wanna hear it?  

just kidding

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Go comment on other peoples scripts!!! And not just corny 1 liners that won't make a difference!


Did you read that script on here... Undeclared?? its an unprodeced script by a guy - i think his name is A. Monroe... ???

one of my favorites on here

I also like One By One.... its a war story... i thought i was very entertaining




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well look at the bright side, Phil. it gets people talking, doesnt it? this forum can be pretty dead sometimes... i've never seen so many people posting at once since i joined 3 months ago...


Classic example of sitting under the lava lamp.  I could get a lot of people posting if I posted photos of me killing a puppy.



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btw...i got another idea for a script... wanna hear it?  


Are you that starved for attention?

I'll tell you what, if you post a script, I'll give it an honest review.  How's that?


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Ignorance is not bliss because these boards have not been dead lately, you just caused a reply not really a spike but you don't view other boards so I don't expect you to know anything.

You're attracting attention but the wrong kind, this kind of attention is how useless members get banned.


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You aren't a write. All you do is post your ideas hoping to get a little attention. If you want to go and get attention, join the IMDB boards or something.
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Are you that starved for attention?

I'll tell you what, if you post a script, I'll give it an honest review.  How's that?


Phil



i was attempting a joke at my own expect... but...whatevber

Phil, i'll take you up on that. I have a completed script called Dangerous Ways... its my "favorite" of the stuff i;ve done. im just giving it the "once over" edit and then i'll post it. look for it in a matter of days....  

Honesty is all i ever ask for, feel free to rip it apart and tear it inside out... as long as its honest.

i'll stop with the bullsh!t posts.. no more half brained ideas...no more starved for attention posts...

from now on Herodreamer will be on his best behavior...

good enough ?



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Stop double posting


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That one dude posts like 6 times in a row and I thought about saying something but my head exploded from seeing 6 posts in a row by the same guy.

That's like me saying

Hey

"Next post"
What's

"Next post"
Going

"Next post"
On

"Next post"
Today

"Next post"
Greg

It's just really annoying, his posts were like two lines but still it seems like the rules are more of a suggestion to new members and not martial law like it should be.


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double post combined


Quoted from greg
Stop double posting


stop being a prude.


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You know what, HD?  I've changed my mind.  I'm not going to read anything you post.  I'm getting pretty sick and tired of you telling others not to be rude when you keep doing stuipid things (like multiple postings) and they tell you not to.  I'm not going to reply to anything you post in the future and I suggest everyone else do the same.


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fine.

this thread lost its purpose a long time ago...

im done here.


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Well that was interesting.  Who wants popcorn?

Back to the slasher flick type conversation, can anyone believe they are making a Halloween 9??  

One of my director friends might be getting the chair for this one.  I wonder what they could possibly have left to cover after the other 8.

Hmmm - pondering hollywood endless and often pointless sequels.

What do you think?


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i want some popcorn!!


they make pointless sequals because people keep forking out the money to go see them... ah-la Saw2 made 40 million opening weekend so - saw 3 comes out later this year....


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