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grademan
Posted: February 3rd, 2010, 10:08am Report to Moderator
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Fellow thieves!

Let's rewrite this script! I'll have a proposal tomorrow. For now, I'd like a head count:

Tommy is in
Sandra is in though she's out of things until Feb 7th
I am in

That's 3 for rewrite mania.

Mr. Ripley you in?
Pete are you in?

Gary
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grademan
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Gabe, Pete, Sandra and Tommy,

REWRITE INSTRUCTIONS –

Starting after the upcoming OWC:

-- Write down your vision of the story in two to three paragraphs.  (1 week)

Read the character profiles, the script and the review list to get that all soaking in your brain as you write your outline.  I’ll post an example soon.

Remember: No cutting characters but they can be diminished.  All else is open for change (or not) as you prefer.

After that the vision is to:

-- Select the one we like best and expand on with each writer having at least one turn. (2 weeks)

-- One of us will start the rewrite with assistance from the others as needed (progress check every week until done)

-- Review of draft for errors to be done by each writer as needed. (1 week)

-- Proudly post it on SS.

The reason we are taking this approach is too maximize everyone’s creativity to see if there’s another “paintball of course!” ideas out there without being tied to a list of corrections.

Gary

BTW, you know you want to do the OWC. So, do it! And if you’re not (gasp!), you can start on your outline now.

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grademan
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Hi Sandra!

Vision received. I don’t want to say too much about it before the others have a chance to get their vision entered. This was 27 pages when I put it onto MS Word to review while at a one day seminar. Whew girl, you can type!  Lot of ideas.

I view this version as:

-- 90% rewrite as a character study starting in high school

-- Slightly less to do with the ring then the original

-- I actually like Logan in this one as a benevolent godfather (not admitting I want an additional character )

You are correct when you say (paraphrased) this story could go lots of ways.

Gary

BTW, can we get out visions completed by next Friday Feb 26? I don’t want us to lose momentum on this!
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Summary of Visions, Goal and Relevant Criticisms

Hey guys!

Here’s the result of our visions in abbreviated form. I have also listed our goal during this Thief rewrite and the relevant criticisms worthy of addressing. Tell me what you think about these options. We’ll pick a way to go on Friday March 5.

REMEMBER : The purposes for the visions were to see if any new ideas had pizzazz for the rewrite.

Gary

Goal
To learn about the rewriting process from deciding on a vision, implementing suggestions, writing in a collaborative effort, and finally posting a second draft.  Oh, and have some fun along the way.

Rewrite      Ideas
Minimal      Add flash forward re: paintball, new ending (Tom)
Moderate     Intro in high school, Gabriel is dying (Gary)
Major         Logan as godfather, lucky stone, etc (Sandra) **
Extensive    The complete story in high school (Gabe)

Relevant Criticisms (Short List):
Thief factor > higher
Character intros > shorter
Story lines > keep Johnny & Cherry emphasis, OK to keep Gabriel’s Game as dual arc, and trim RV, Muslim, Logan arc
Characters > clearer defined and Protag vs Antag

** Sandra has written a detailed proposal which does a much better job of explaining her ideas.
  
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Sandra, Gabe, and Tommy (I assume Pete has dropped out)

THIEF - THE PATH FORWARD

Recommendation – Go with a minimalist rewrite to address our key concerns.

Reasoning – What we need is experience rewriting without doing a complete rewrite. The current story is good except for a few points.  It is just too much effort to implement the high school scenarios or Logan as godfather scenario.

CHANGES:

Opening –
Add flash forward paintball game
Start introductions with Johnny’s late arrival

Middle—
Trim RV, Logan, and Muslim stuff
More stuff with the ring - Up the Thief factor
Characters in opposition - Johnny and Gabriel?

Ending—
New ending since no RV or at least a reasonable reason for the RV to be there

Suggestion—
Change character reactions not events (except where noted above)  
Okay to make the action/description lines read more smoothly, as if written by one person.

What’s next—
That’s the general plan for the rewrite. We can start out with one writer going as far as they can. I’ll check with you once every week or sooner to check progress.

Who wants to go first?

Cheers,

Gary

Let me know if any questions or suggestions.
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Status report

Tommy has finished his go at Thief.

He was able to:

-- Add a flash forward to the opening scene (paintball)

-- Delete about 10 pages of dialogue from the beginning

-- Changed some of the character intros

Anyone for next?

Gary
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Sandra, I tested it out, and it seems to work out. When printing you can print out only those pages associated with the first revision, etc.

I say we try it. It's probably too late for Gabe. But the revision codes are:

T = Tommy (black) (first revision) ALREADY DONE!
G = Gabriel (blue) (second revision) Up to Gabe, he's already started his rewrite.
S = Sandra (choice) (third revision) COMING UP
R = Gary (choice) (fourth revision) COMING UP

Gary
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Hey guys,

STRIKEOUTS

Glad to hear you all got the master draft complete with strikeouts. It’s a mess isn’t it? I left the strikeouts in for completeness. Sandra, it was a good idea to delete them so you could get a clean look at things.

EXPLANATION OF CHANGES

Gabe’s lack of explanation of his changes is my fault. I thought they had been communicated when I sent you all a copy of his original email. I should have put it in the thread here. Duh.

EARLY EFFORTS

I thank Tom and Gabe for getting things rolling. When we’re told to trim, we trim very well.  I see hesitation in committing to new actions and introductions. This is normal.

THE PLAN

Sandra can fix the problems she sees as part of her revision.  



Beyond that, I am not sure what to recommend.

Thoughts?

Gary


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**********   THREAD TO BE CLEANED OUT SOON ! ****************


I've asked MC to clean out this thread, so be ready....


Gary

EDIT: Thanks MC!

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Hey Thieves!

Status update for second round of revisions:

Tom - Passed due to exams
Gabriel - Out indefinitely due to work load
Sandra - Draft being revised
Gary - Out until Sept 1 (kids home for summer)

At present, Sandra is fleshing out the 90 page pruned version.

Keep me up to date guys!

We're closer than you think.

Gary

PS - Tom and Sandra should compare notes on what story elements can be adapted from Sandra's version to the pruned version.
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Hey there, I just stopped by to apologize for flaking on this project. I was sincerely interested in working on it, but life got in the way. I haven't even had time for my own stuff lately. So if I screwed things up too badly (I don't think I did, did I?), I'm very sorry.

~Pete
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Quoted from Pete B. Lane
Hey there, I just stopped by to apologize for flaking on this project. I was sincerely interested in working on it, but life got in the way. I haven't even had time for my own stuff lately. So if I screwed things up too badly (I don't think I did, did I?), I'm very sorry.

~Pete


No worries, Pete. We all understand how life does this constantly, battering us this way and that.

Sandra



A known mistake is better than an unknown truth.
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Pete,

No worries!  No need to apologize. We appreciate your comments and insights when we were deciding what to do with the revision. You're welcome to jump back in, anytime, if you'd like.

Gary
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Thanks, Sandra and Gary, now I don't feel so bad.

In regard to jumping back in: I have no idea what kind of progress has been made in the last couple of months, so I would need to catch up to offer anything. I may not commit to actually rewriting, but I may have comments and suggestions to give, I'll let you know. Thanks!

~Pete
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May I read the latest draft of the script? I guess I assumed that it had been posted here on SS, but I can't find it. I see that Sandra is currently working on her draft, but I'd like to see what changes have been made so far.

If I committed to a rewrite, what would I need to do beforehand? We were asked for our "visions" earlier - I assume you would still need to see mine. If so, I think it would be best if it was based on the "pruned version", as you put it.

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