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I guess my main issue is, at the moment my entry has had less than (edited - not enough) reads from members that can actually vote, and although I've been lucky enough to have some work produced and for me that is worth more than anything. I would still love to have the recognition of my peers by taking out the writer’s choice.
Now I'm not really sure how the voting system works but I'm guessing a script that has over 20 reads has an advantage over ones with a lover read count.
I don’t know if that’s selfish, but doesn’t everyone secretly, or not so secretly want to get the writers choice?
Anyway, it is what it is and at the end of the day I think all the heated debate just shows how passionate everyone is about the craft and that can only be a good thing.
Personally I have no issue with Jeff's reviews; he has given me some great advice in the short time I’ve been here and also some comments that I just let slide off my back. Everyone has their way. Everyone sees things from a different perspective. You are never going to be able to put this many people together and have everyone have the same standard. I do think it is a shame with regards to the reads though.
EDIT ON THE EDIT
My words are not "not enough" that’s not how I feel so that’s a misrepresentation. The number I gave was higher than the actual amount of reads so no one would have been able to pick the script from that information. My point is only about how can a script with a low read count compare to one with a higher read count.
That is a sticky widget for sure. I had one OWC where I was near the bottom in terms of total reviews and had the same concern. I don't know how the scoring goes for this one. I do know (probably many OWCs ago I brought up that it ought to be an average score rather than a cumulative point total so that the number of reads would not be a skewing factor. i.e., you have the same chance of winning with 10 scores as you do with 20. I think they may be doing something like that now. Maybe someone can weigh in?????
In terms of wanting to win the challenge I'll make no secret about it. For me it's - hell, yeah I'd like to grab the mug! It's a great ego boost especially since it is picked anonymously. Your script speaks for itself. That is pretty cool stuff.
In terms of wanting to win the challenge I'll make no secret about it. For me it's - hell, yeah I'd like to grab the mug! It's a great ego boost especially since it is picked anonymously. Your script speaks for itself. That is pretty cool stuff.
Course it's not just you. We all want the mug! Well, least you can count me in as one who does. Got to be in it to win it though, so it's definitely not gonna happen for me this time around.
I've got two mugs, not trying to show off but while it is nice to get the 'top script', that sense of achievement quickly dissipates. What is priceless though is the feedback. With every OWC (both those that I've done well in and those I've done terrible in) I've used the feedback to do a second draft and they've become much, much better. They are a great addition to my portfolio and I've had some success with them in competitions.
The Enchanted Quill for example, which came second in a OWC, just featured in the finals of Shriekfest over in LA. On a sidenote, another OWC script called Seek which didn't get many nice reviews in that particular OWC was also in the very same finals. I didn't win BTW, but to have 2 scripts in the finals is good for my portfolio and I'm getting a radio interview out of it sometime next year, plus referrals to producers - which is nice. All because of a couple of OWC's.
Sure I've not had thirty+ reviews when there's been that many in the OWC but it's always gone into the page 2 of reviews and there's always been enough feedback for me to get an idea of what works and what doesn't.
I think this desire to win is the source of a lot of the flames that goes on here. As cliche as this sounds, it really is the taking part that matters more.
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I've got two mugs, not trying to show off but while it is nice to get the 'top script', that sense of achievement quickly dissipates. What is priceless though is the feedback. With every OWC (both those that I've done well in and those I've done terrible in) I've used the feedback to do a second draft and they've become much, much better. They are a great addition to my portfolio and I've had some success with them in competitions.
The Enchanted Quill for example, which came second in a OWC, just featured in the finals of Shriekfest over in LA. On a sidenote, another OWC script called Seek which didn't get many nice reviews in that particular OWC was also in the very same finals. I didn't win BTW, but to have 2 scripts in the finals is good for my portfolio and I'm getting a radio interview out of it sometime next year, plus referrals to producers - which is nice. All because of a couple of OWC's. .
Agree totally with this. And I remember The Enchanted Quill ...loved that one very much. I value all of the feedback And the exposure here. Most that I've had produced was found right here on SS.
I think this desire to win is the source of a lot of the flames that goes on here. ... .
Oh, I don't think so. Imh, the quality scripts win the popular vote just cause they're better stories and better written.
P.S. Congrats Mark on your success. I do think OWCs can definitely act as incentive to get something written. Best I've done is 'writers also liked' and I'm pretty proud of that one cause I rewrote it and it got somewhat of a popular vote on SR.
I've got two mugs, not trying to show off but while it is nice to get the 'top script', that sense of achievement quickly dissipates. What is priceless though is the feedback. With every OWC (both those that I've done well in and those I've done terrible in) I've used the feedback to do a second draft and they've become much, much better. They are a great addition to my portfolio and I've had some success with them in competitions.
The Enchanted Quill for example, which came second in a OWC, just featured in the finals of Shriekfest over in LA. On a sidenote, another OWC script called Seek which didn't get many nice reviews in that particular OWC was also in the very same finals. I didn't win BTW, but to have 2 scripts in the finals is good for my portfolio and I'm getting a radio interview out of it sometime next year, plus referrals to producers - which is nice. All because of a couple of OWC's.
Sure I've not had thirty+ reviews when there's been that many in the OWC but it's always gone into the page 2 of reviews and there's always been enough feedback for me to get an idea of what works and what doesn't.
I think this desire to win is the source of a lot of the flames that goes on here. As cliche as this sounds, it really is the taking part that matters more.
Well said - and congrats on the Shriekfest - well done
Most of you are probably sleeping but I'll still say that voting ends in 2.5 hours (according to Baker Island Time) May you see me in your dreams telling you this and wake up. Wake up. Wake up and vote.