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Another one is last years "Boy A", which was a brilliant character study of someone who had committed a horrific murder of a child, when he was a teenager, and his life when released from prison with a new identity. The writer really had you feeling compassion for this guy, despite of what he has done.
It was actually really well written, you never actually find out what he did until later in the film, although it is heavily hinted at. And thus you get to form opinions and form an affection for him before you realise the full picture. The ending was handled really well and I doubt many people would have finished that movie thinking that he never suffered for his crime.
Another one is last years "Boy A", which was a brilliant character study of someone who had committed a horrific murder of a child, when he was a teenager, and his life when released from prison with a new identity. The writer really had you feeling compassion for this guy, despite of what he has done.
It was actually really well written, you never actually find out what he did until later in the film, although it is heavily hinted at. And thus you get to form opinions and form an affection for him before you realise the full picture. The ending was handled really well and I doubt many people would have finished that movie thinking that he never suffered for his crime.
I agree. 'Boy A' was a good film with some excellent performances.
It was largely based - I understand - on this case - Jamie Bulger.
I agree. 'Boy A' was a good film with some excellent performances.
It was largely based - I understand - on this case - Jamie Bulger.
I thought that might have been the case, it did remind me of that in some ways.
I forgot to mention that the writer of Boy A did something great in that movie in that he had our protagonist actually save a child's life in a scene that may sound a little corny but was actually quite neatly done.
So maybe it is fine to kill a kid if you killer then goes on to not just show remorse but also redeem himself as well.
But has the murder been shwon on screen? And he was a kid himself when he did it.
The actuall death was not shown, no. But the events leading up to it were, and that was very uncomfortable viewing. They disappeared under a bridge to actually do the deed.
But yes, he was a kid at the time.
The In Bruges example though showed it clearly, even the smoking bullet hole in the kids head (or did I imagine that?)
Here's something that might help, but really alll rules have exceptions.
Gary
Horror and Thriller Don't's
Don't kill an animal on screen. It just isn't done, not by good directors. It's a cheap and repulsive way to get an emotional effect. I will generally stop reading a screenplay where this happens.
While it is perfectly all right to have an undead creature strangle the department store Santa to death under the neon lights, less cartoonish violence, especially when directed against the weak (women, children, pets) often throws the reader and the audience out of the movie. So, for example, if you have a physically abusive husband who's going to get his just desserts later on, you should not show him beating his wife on screen. You don't show a rape on screen. You never show someone hurting (as opposed to frightening) a child on screen. It is classier and more effective to show the aftermath of extreme violence than the violence itself.
You can, if you must, kill your animals off screen, but personally, I prefer a movie in which the pets have the sense to snarl at the vampire and run away.
See, it's these "wrath of ___" rules that bother me.
I saw "Dolores Claiborne" recently and in that story her husband, out of nowhere, slammed her in the back for giggling(at him). It worked for the piece, I felt. It didn't feel like gratuitous violence. It explained his callousness in a way that the verbal abuse alone didn't.
I agree with Michel that you can get an audience to side with a character that even killed a child. The human mind is more accomodating than ever. Look at a tv show like "Dexter". Who would've thought a serial killer would be the lead?
But I want to use the situation in a different way...
I remember that case where the two boys killed the baby. I think I may have been two or so years older than the perpetuators and thinking "those murderous children!"
Have ever watch that Spanish movie called "¿Quién puede matar a un niño?". The Englsih title was (badly) "Island of the damned" but the spanish translition says it all "Who could kill a kid?" Here the plot summuary from IMDB :
"A couple of English tourists rent a boat to visit the fictitious island of Almanzora, just off the southern Spanish coast. When they arrive, they find the town deserted of adults, there's only children who don't speak but stare at them with eerie smiles. They soon discover that all the children of the island have been posessed by a mysterious force or madness which they can pass from one to another, and which makes them attack and murder their elders, who can't defend themselves because nobody dares to kill a child..."
In Spiderman 3, Sandman hits a dog and in Resident Evil as well she kills dogs and nobody had any problem and both are true Hollywood films.
The only time I laugh killing dogs (I'm so ashamed) was while watching "A Fish Called Wanda" with the elder lady's yorkshires. But it was clearly a comedy
The only time I laugh killing dogs (I'm so ashamed) was while watching "A Fish Called Wanda" with the elder lady's yorkshires. But it was clearly a comedy
If mainstream movies can do it...
The movie I mentioned with the kids and the naked woman has a mainstream actress in it. It also has kids dying in it.
CSI and other shows like that has kids dying in it all the time.
Personally I have no problem with films and television killing animals and children because it is not real. Like Ben Affleck said in JSBSB "They're fictional characters"
Have ever watch that Spanish movie called "¿Quién puede matar a un niño?". The Englsih title was (badly) "Island of the damned" but the spanish translition says it all "Who could kill a kid?" Here the plot summuary from IMDB :
"A couple of English tourists rent a boat to visit the fictitious island of Almanzora, just off the southern Spanish coast. When they arrive, they find the town deserted of adults, there's only children who don't speak but stare at them with eerie smiles. They soon discover that all the children of the island have been posessed by a mysterious force or madness which they can pass from one to another, and which makes them attack and murder their elders, who can't defend themselves because nobody dares to kill a child..."
That sounds like a Spanish rip-off of Village of the Damned.