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dogglebe
Posted: July 28th, 2005, 3:45pm Report to Moderator
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Andy (you naughty girl),

I found your script to be very well written, particularly the ending.  It said more about Stanley's character than the rest of the story in its entirety did.  Jimmy was well thought out.  It was good to see him at the beginning just having fun.  Showing him miserable through out the story would've taken a lot away from him.

I found you a bit wordy in your descriptions and direction.  The best example of this would be how you describe Stanley's hoodlum friends individually.  It wasn't necessary.  You could have simply listed their names and described the bunch of them as 'brutish white-trash hoodlums' or something to that effect.  By tightening up the script, you could easily trim two pages off it, which is a lot for a fifteen page script.

I do have a couple of questions for you:

Why did Jimmy sleep in the treehouse before the funeral?  Is that his fortress of solitude?  If so, you should explain that a little more.

Why did young Jimmy do to get Stanley in trouble in school?  It doesn't really matter; I'm just curious.

Do all the German Shepherd's in England live eighteen years and more?  Crispy may have set a record for his breed.

Again, the story was very nicely written and the ending was the icing on the cake.


Phil
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Andy Petrou
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Hey Phil, thanks so much for reading this.  >

I am so glad you liked the ending! I was about to change it near the end but it stuck with me so I kept it!!

I hear you on the wordy nature of it. I think I over compensated with the descriptions as I didn't describe the characters in my goonies script at all. Plus I really wanted to show that the bullies were an odd looking bunch of kids rather than just mean looking in general. I will look over it again and look for places to trim down.

You picked up on it, yay! Yes, Jimmy found his peace and freedom in his treehouse, his safe place. I always thought it would in a way show that he never grew up much both physically or emotionally. I see your point though.

The thing is, Jimmy never really did do anything wrong, which is the saddest thing of all. He really was bullied for the way he looked when it wasn't his fault. I didn't want to make him look as though he ever deserved his torment.

LOL! Well, I know Spritz made it to a ripe old age for a german shepherd, but I do believe dogs can make it up to 20 years. I had a friend at work whose cat lived to 32! So I went with a bit of fantasy here...

Again, so glad you liked it! Thanks, Phil  
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Andy Petrou
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I just wondered if anyone else has had a chance to read my short story...?  

Thanks,
Andy x
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Andy Petrou
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I thought I'd give this a push up, would also be interesting to see what some of the other non-participants of the one week exercise thought of this too...

Andy  

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Hi Andy, this was a very enjoyable read - I must admit I felt sorry for Jimmy at the end though, after all he's been through and then his tormentor comes back to haunt him! It would be great to carry on the story, with Stanleys ghost forced to stick with Jimmy until he apologises for his actions in life.

Hope you're having a fab time on your travels

Shonagh x
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Hi Andy! Well, it seems very nice piece and whether I was to direct it I transposes it into the Europe 30s! Great idea, kid!
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Again, I''m sorry! Maybe it could be set in the begining of Nazis take over all the Europe...
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Andy Petrou
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Helio and Shonagh, thanks for the reads. Sorry I didn't reply sooner. I had someone on the goonies forum read and this short there and hope it is ok that I post their review here, as I found it so very interesting.


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note, if big long explanations of answers bore you, skip ahead to the bolded section at the bottom that contains the summary of my opinion.

I liked the story, for the most part. Greta story, characters, build up, etcetera but I felt the end lacked resolution. Jimmy had a dream of vengence and then did the mature, responisble thing in real life. Albeit noble, to me it showed great weakness in his character. He never "did" anything about his problem. He let the bully pick on him. He never once did anything to try and bring his torment to an end. Stanley got his karmatic comeupings, but not at Jimmy's hands. Because of that, I found it impossible to empathise with Jimmy and his situation.

But yeah, overall I liked it, but was disappointed with the ending. I got it, in that the point was he grew up to be a responsible, respectable person, but he still seemed to lack a backbone. As in, he never stopped being bullied, which would have made him go through life being a mental and physical wreck. Personally, I've found that people who go through life like Jimmy had, end up on a very destructive path that never has a happy ending.
It was never indicated or implied that Jimmy ever stuck up for himself nor did anyone else ever stick up for him. For example, he had a brother who was 5 years older than him. I don't know much about the social development of children in other societies, but here, people with older brothers were not picked on by anyone other than their older brother or sister and their friends. They were "untouchable" to bullies, which for most, made them more smart-mouthed than most, because they new no one could touch them. Let me put it this way, if some little kid half my sized was picking on my little brother who has a physical disadvantage, they person would be breathing through a hose untill he learned why it was a bad idea.

To me, this story would have been more credible with a female cast than with a male cast. Girls tend to solve their differences through mental and emotional torment whilst boys solve their differences physically.

A kid that wound (wownd not woond) is likely to snap, which is more of what I was expecting. His dad told him to just smile, take it with a grain of salt, so to speak. But that didn't work. I would have thought he would have tried something else but never did.

Another unresolved issue I had were the other boys. They were noted in the beginning. The end, because it was a dream sequence, is apart from reality. I could not decipher whether or not they actually felt that way or if they had grown up remaining harsh and cold. If they truely did befriend Jimmy or if that was all just a part of the dream and in reality he still had no friends.

It was also quite a bit of a shock for Jimmy's father to pull a one-eighty at the end, switching from the "just smile at them" attitude to "Respect my _! That _ got what was coming to him. Tormenting Jimmy all these years. It's about time Karma paid this low life a visit." I think Jimmy could have benefitted from that fatherly attitude about 17 years earlier.

The only other thing I wanted to mention, although it's forgiven because it was a short story, the question of "why" was never answered. You never knew why the bully picked on him, what his motivation was, nor why any of the other guys followed him. But again, because it was a short, those points have to be overlooked or assumed in order to move the story. I just like things like that, the reason I always go for the "extended" versions of movies and such.

Anyway, I think I made all my points. I hope you take all of that for what it is (or what I intend it to be) - constructive criticism.

I really enjoyed the story, it was well written and the plot was great, I just felt the ending was lacking resolution because Jimmy's character never evolved beyond being a physical and mental punching bag for bullies.

Opinions are like a****, everybody has one.


........I was just blown away by this guy's feedback. Wow. It really made my day  

Andy

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wow potty mouth!  lol

sadly I've been around children that talk like that.

loved the story and especially loved some of your characters names.

Hell I can't say bad thing about this @$&* story....

great short!

brion
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Andy Petrou
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WOW - This one came back from the dead!!

Thanks so much for reading it. Trust me, as a child I never spoke like that. I just have an active imagination...lol!

Glad you liked it, Brion and thanks for leaving the comments.

Andy x
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I love the kids names, hilarious. Overall, this was a very good script. I kinda got confused by the flashbacks, but that didn't stop me from liking it. This reminded me of The Butterfly Effect.


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Hey Andy

I owe you a read so I'm goonie (gonna' - get it?) read this one for you and post a review tonight..

Keep your eye patch open..


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Hey Andy

*** SPOLIERS ***

Really good story this and with an amusing twist ending despite the irony of it..

I couldn’t fault your dialogue, you’re very good at this and seem to chose the right things to say, well done there..

I disagree with some of the other posters who mentioned your descriptions of the boys were too much.. I actually considered your descriptions of all your characters very well done and I could see them in my minds eye so personally I appreciated these biographies and how they talked and dressed, again you do this well..

You also tell a good story, you gain the interest of your reader, you start with an intriguing opening, hook us in and what follows is also very pleasurable to read.

Bullying is a tough subject to communicate but I think you did a good job here. You also did a good job with condensing the passage of time using Flashbacks and these worked well for your story.

All the characters had their own distinct voice and personality, I liked the Teresa character even though she only appeared on a couple of occasions, she came across as real to me and this is difficult to do with a minor character..

Equally, I thought you described the behavior of your characters really well, the way they look also has a through-line to their actions and words, especially in the dream sequence which we don’t know is a dream until afterwards – cool..

I love the descriptions of the tree house and the landscape around the house, the car in the driveway and such and indeed in the mortuary you’re blessed with a fine mind for description.. I also thought you painted a yucky picture of how Jimmy’s dad performed embalming or emptying bodies of their fluids without actually describing these events as such but substituted this for the reader’s benefit by what the Dad told and what Jimmy said in reply – good stuff this and again difficult to pull off..

The Alseration chasing the kids after bullying Jimmy was a good scene too and this was well written, also the pathos came through of Jimmy’s love for the dog and the dog’s love of Jimmy at the end of the scene, nice coda that and a nice way of adding emotion of love to a scene which had so much hate in it at the start.. Good stuff..

I enjoyed the ending of this even though the denouement was a unexpected twist which caught me off guard for a moment there.. Clever you... You successfully managed to draw us the reader to your own conclusion and poor Jimmy is still not free of that teenage bully bastard! What a shame.. But that’s the idea behind the story, right? If we have been unfortunate to have been bullied in this life we never can shake this experience off completely and your script is a good metaphor of this emotional scar. I’m glad I was never bullied, Jeez...

Very good story and I really enjoyed reading this Andy. Wonderful world  you’ve created here populated by colorful characters albeit tinged with a little sadness and regret.. The stuff of all best stories and I congratulate you on this, Andy.. Well done. I really like this..


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Thought I'd check this out. The logline alone was enticing and the contest theme was also.

SPOILERS...

I enjoyed this one a lot. I think Jimmy's character is really what carried the story and made it interesting, which is the way it should be. He's very easy to identify with as well. Perhaps not many have suffered his unending torment but I'm sure everyone's had trouble fitting in at some point in their life. I enjoyed Jimmy's conversations with his father as well. Karl helped strengthen Jimmy's character but had his own personality as well. I liked the descriptions of the bullies as well. Each had their own identities and weren't just typical goons (or goonies ). I'm afraid I kind of saw the twist coming. I figured someone would've had a ghost in their entry. What I didn't see coming was Jimmy's dream. It was quite shocking and disturbing but also had some nice gallows humor as well. It was out of Jimmy's character though so it's good that it was a dream.

All in all, excellent script, Andy. I really enjoyed it.


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Was Jimmy really a midget, or just short for his age? It would be alot less offensive if he was short for his age, as the teasing would seem more casual. But making fun of someone with a growth disorder is just nasty, ha ha.

I found the way Jimmy reacted to be slice down the cheek a little unrealistic. When I was eleven, I probably would have cried if I got my cheeck gouged. Then again, I was a wuss.

The dream/funeral party thing was very grotesque. The way you desribed the face actually melting was just disguisting. In a good way.

The flashback/dreams/present time is a little badly layed out. On screen, it mgiht be a bit confusing, but understable nonetheless.

There was a quite a few humourous scene, expecially the explanation of the bully's death part. Like a few other's have said, you've got some good charcters. If tthe bully's death part had been anyone else's death, it wouldn't have been as funny, becuase you made people hate the bully.

The ending was out of place. The ghost thing didn't seem right in a script  like this, but it still doens't make the script bad, and it mainly works.

9/10


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