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The Homeschooled Boy by Khamanna Iskandarova - Short - A homeschooled boy wants to be one of the guys. ...feel normal. 7 pages - pdf, format


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Homeschooled * a hazing reveals why a boy is homeschooled * good misdirection on this one * BEN was a good character acting and talking like a real boy * PARKER was a touch less so * perhaps because of his holding back a secret * at the end PARKER redeems his “boyness” when he asks if he’s still a member * I’m not sure I buy BEN’S acceptance of PARKER given what he did to the sister * there were a few places where I lost the trail * not sure why * overall good job of portrayal of youth and misdirection
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This was an interesting piece, Khamanna, though I had to read it twice to understand what was happening.  Your very first description--the list--confused the hell out of me.   You should mention that 'Devils' is written underneath the letterhead, followed by the name.

SPOILER

You need to do a little more when Parker tells Ben to go home.  I wasn't sure what you were doing with this, or where you were going.  You should drop a hint for us that Parker has powers.

The story, itself, was good.  A boy with special abilities is hidden by his parents.  And he grows up hungry for friendship.  Depending on what direction you would take this, it could be a very nice feature.


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@grademan - thanks for the read. I wonder where you lost trail - I do think this might be confusing at places but can't know for sure what places. It was supposed to happen in 5 min real time - that was the requirement. I think if I get rid of Ben going down the stairs, etc (I did this to keep to requirement, I couldn't have any cuts in a script) it would be better. Forgot to exclude it before submitting.
Ben's acceptance - better pacing would help Ben's acceptance maybe - that's easy, I'll take care of that.
He did that to Irene without even knowing. Also she's not that bad, just her nose bled a little - might be a little muddled too, need to work on it some. Thanks.

@Phil - thank, I appreciate it.
The very first description - I had something else at first. Really hoping someone will tell me exactly how, because I did my best with it. Or maybe I'll return to it in a month and will see the way, but right now I have no idea how to clear that up. But that's been an issue before and I see I haven't succeeded. I do need to do a little more or Ben decides to go home too abruptly. I don't think revealing the powers will help the story although I see what you're saying. The downside of it - the reveal/twist will be lost I think. Thanks.
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Hello Khamanna,

I'm always pleased to see new material from a regularly contributing member.
I really like the premise of a boy on the outside wanting in a social club.
It's a very easy premise to readers to relate to one side or the other.

I must confess though your execution caused me to read the story twice.
I didn't see the need for the letterhead, which confused me at first.
Ben could easily relay that information through opening dialogue.
Something like he shouldn't consider someone who doesn't go to their school.
Just because Parker is his new neighbor, there's no special treatment.
Parker pleads for just one chance to be one of the boys in the club.
To me, that's more character centric, than a document.
I know it's telling, not showing, but I can see the boys naturally doing that.
And it also tells us, that Parker is new to the neighborhood.
His folks may have had to move because of a previous mysterious incident.

The initiation itself was unclear to me.
All Parker had to do was open a door? Not much of a test there.
I'm unsure if Ben just happened to emulate a situation his sister was experiencing.
Or if Parker made the sister emulate the scene Ben staged.
Or if Parker saw what was naturally happening to the sister projected onto Ben.
That set up needs clarity to add punch to your story.

It's a nifty vehicle to forge a friendship between these two boys.
I hope you develop this script, I like the idea a lot. Thanks for sharing.

Keep writing and rewriting!

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Hey K, gave your short a read.

Here are my thoughts...

I really dislike the title...just doesn't work at all for me.

I do like the premise of your story...BUT...the execution of your writing kinda buries the positives.

Like another reader, I was completely baffled by the opening.  The wording is so unclear, it's just impossible to understand.  After multiple reads, I can assume what it is your after here, but it's poorly executed on the page.

For me, this kind of poor and awkward wording and phrasing is evident throughout the script, and really drags it down.

Story-wise, I think it's rather interesting...maybe even well conceived.  It's heavily trodden territory though and needs more unique touches to make it work.

Either way, I'd say it's the best writing I've seen from you all in all.  Just keep working to smooth out your writing and make it easier for everyone to understand exactly what you're trying to say.  Good job.
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Thanks Brett,
The initiation - Parker sees blood on the floor, doesn't scream or calls the police - this is by the way what I would do - but goes up to the door. Although I do understand what you're saying. I guess I'm asking you to suspend disbelief here and just go with it.
Thanks, I'll surely think about that first paragraph. Thanks for the idea to scratch it off completely. I can do that and also delete all the references to that particular school and it will work as well. Good advice! Thanks.

@Jeff,
Jeff, I'm sorry to say what I'm about to say to you but I strongly feel like I should.

First let me applaud your attempt to keep the tone TACTFULLY condescending. Now I'll translate what you just said and expose what's implied here:

"K, the premise is trite, the story is okay, not original, rather trite but okay. I still say this is good for you, since I must factor in your potential."

This is how it read by all including me - so you pretty much succeeded here.

I'm only saying this for you (I was trying hard to keep quiet with you) and for the well-being of this site. If you want to keep it up please just don't talk to me. --this is not the first time you hear that and that's a well known fact.

Please do not be sarcastic in your further comments to what I wrote here. I'm not initiating the war here, I'm just letting you know in a straight forward but respectful way.


By the way, you may see, I took in your complains on the opening very well. I can take criticism just not the other stuff.

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HUH?  Where did that come from...and why?

You sure read alot into what I wrote, yet took none of the constructive criticism, even though others have said the same thing.

In what way was anything I said condescending?  Trite?  Twice?  I didn't use or imply that word...and you used it twice.

Who "all" read it the way you did?

K, I really don't get you.  You've had a problem with me dating back to the 7 week challenge last year, and for some reason, you just can't get over the negative feedback you received from me.  Kinda sad, actually, but I guess i understand...or at least will try to.

I've read and commented on a bunch of your work and I always try to give you advice that is meant to help you as a writer.  I don't think you've ever returned the favor, and you always take issue with what I say, even though it's spot on and 100% the truth.

I made a few comments on the challenge you and Ray just had and you once again didn't like what I had to say and questioned me to provide detail...I did, but it doesn't seem to matter with you.

You've said numerous times that you are a terrible editor and don't even see glaring issues when they're right in front of you and obvious to everyone else.  I would think you'd appreciate a little help and an extra set of editor's eyes.

Guess I'm way off base with that assumption.  My apologies...I'll stay away from your posted work in the future, as you obviously don't need any constructive criticism or feedback from me.
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Hi, Khamanna

Maybe it's just because I finished watching LET THE RIGHT ONE IN, but the supernatural flavor of this story strikes a chord.

I think you've captured the voice and mentality of "stupid little kids" very well.
"Fraternities". Initiations. Fake blood. Rubber vomit. Challenge is only to open a door.
Stupid little kids.
Bless their little hearts.

Pg 1
                    BEN
     That’s you. We meet at my place -
     right next door from here.


followed by this line on page 3

                    PARKER
     --Ben. You have to go home. Now.
     You have to, you hear?! Have to.

I thought they were already in Ben's home.
Oh, wait. I get it.
They MEET for the Devils Fraternity at Ben's but the "toughy " test is still at Parker's.
Gotcha.
Brave of Ben to go squirting fake blood about someone else's house.
Stupid kids.

And I'm pretty sure you don't need the double dashes before --Ben. You have to go home. Now.
Parker hasn't even interrupted Ben.
Now, on page 6 you do it plausibly fine. I think DJ does it this way, too.

Top half of page 4, I painfully appreciate the razor rapid turn childhood relationships can take that you've voiced Ben with here.

Pitch black. Ben frowns.
That's going to be kind of difficult to shoot. A frown, or otherwise, in pitch black.

Why does Ben say "Parker?" when he enters his own home?
The door is difficult to slide open. Whoopie doo.
The light has to be turned on. Whoopie doo, too.
There's blood on the floor. Alright! Now we have something to be concerned about.
But Park's still back over at his own place.
So... whassup?

Love the page 5 frantic dash up the stairs just to stop and poke open the door. LOL! Stupid kids.

What's the referee's ruling on punctuation after the FADE OUT?
Usually it's a colon, sometimes just a period.
(FADE IN & FADE OUT are both superfluous, so they both just irritate me.
Why don't we also include HAVE A NICE DAY! and EAT YOUR VEGETABLES! and FLOSS YOUR TEETH!?
Idiots. Some traditions I loathe.

The supernatural mechanics of "Parker sees something and it's mirror transferred/duplicated to someone else" kinda needs to be addressed.
See fake stuff and real stuff happens?
What happens if Parker sees silk flowers and gets excited? Do real flowers pop up somewhere?
What if he sees a boob job? (I know! They're little kids, just the principle is what I'm interested in) and gets excited (I do!). Does some other random chick elsewhere get real boobs all of a sudden?
Yeah, I know it's a short.
Yeah, it was for another project.
I'm just wondering.
(Yes. I know I'm something of a fruitcake. Nuts and bolts. Deal.)  


I like your pitiful little Parker kid.
I agree that this set up has an X-Men quality feature potential.



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@Hi Ray,
Thanks for taking a look. Thanks for letting me know what confused you - I'll cheat, I think, I'll have Parker's house/Ben's house in the slugs. I don't know if it's cheating but when I was writing it I suddenly decided so.

About Fade Out - I don't even know, have to look it up. Thanks for pointing that out.

Parker's power - blood scared him, silk flowers or boob job wouldn't. If he saw blood and Irene was not in the house nothing would happen I guess.

For some reason I just love writing about friendship between two little boys. Feature - no plot comes to mind. Maybe someday I'll write a feature about two different little boys though. My hands are itchy

Thanks.

@Jeff
You're wrong on two accounts:
1. I've read and commented on a bunch of your work as well including a couple of pisstakes. 7WC - you read only 10 pages, that's no big deal. "I don't think you've ever returned the favor" - this is simply not true! I've commented on the pisstake for your Oct 2010 OWC entry and in my comment I compared it to you other pisstake done for another OWC (vegetarian vs. carnivore one). When I remember your entry about teenagers at a graveyard, where they met an old man...- I commented on it too. I commented on your White women and although I'm not sure but possibly on the OWC run by M. Cornetto.
I did read a lot of your story for 7WC but felt like not finishing it as I got bored. You stopped reading mine at p10  and I didn't want to write for yours "you know I'm not reading any more of this..." so I decided to keep quiet.

2. "I'll stay away from your posted work in the future, as you obviously don't need any constructive criticism or feedback from me" - whatever you wrote here is not constructive, sorry.
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Quoted from Dreamscale, Post #7
I'll stay away from your posted work in the future...


Life would be so much easier if people would actually adhere to this when they say it.

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Hi Khamanna,

I actually read this a few days ago but forgot to comment.  

I think it's a cool idea you've got here but I felt myself floating around in the middle of it trying to grasp what exactly was going on.  The big deal that was made of Parker trying to get Ben to go home and her being in trouble -- I had to reread it to make sure I got it and even when I thought I got it I wasn't sure I absolutely got it.  You've got a lot of room to play with to better flesh it out; maybe add a couple pages so there isn't that confusion.  

It's a cool idea.  Good job.

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Thanks Greg - I see what you're saying and agree, better pacing would help. I'll read your short today and tomorrow too - curious about it already. And congrats on the Scorsese Club being featured as the script of the month and on Babz picking it up, it's about boys, surely must be good...
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I liked this Khamanna.

But for some reason, and I'm not exacly sure why, I had to read some things twice. (maybe cause I just got in from work and was tired lol )

But getting past that it had a "kinda creepy" feel about it. And like others have said maybe you could expand it to feature length. I know I'm not adding much to what others said.
I'm just getting off the floor myself writting these and dont really feel qualified to nick pick someone elses work.
But I think this is pretty good for what you were trying to do with it.


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Thanks Hugh. I think everyone who watches movies is qualified to nit pick
"But for some reason, and I'm not exacly sure why, I had to read some things twice." - I'll do something about it.
I'm glad you liked it!
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For the life in me, I don't understand the reoccurring gorgon of having to reread a line or sequence twice to understand what's happening.

If the sequence is at all comprehensible and can translate to screen ("What I meant vs What I said") then it should be a non-issue issue.

A beautifully told story that is boring as dirt shouldn't be graded higher than a somewhat convoluted but ultimately decent story.
However, the former seems to garner more appreciation by a wide margin than the latter.
Grrr...



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I thought this was really well done, Khamanna,

Kids want to fit in and in an old school kind of way, this depicts homeschooling the way it was before the generation of the internet and Facebook. What do we call the generation now? The Z generation?

Had to read this by the title because the interesting thing about this to me is the fact that my kids (all grown up now) were homeschooled and we really were pioneers for virtual learning through computers, also working with professionals and doing the Alberta based curriculum and governmental tests alongside community volunteer work and working in cadet programs that gave opportunity to travel overseas.

I think, depending upon where you live in the world today, "homeschooled" now, has a completely different identity. It's often now realized through virtual programs and I believe there are also now mixed virtual/physical classes.

Anyways, this story feels like it pins homeschooled as negative thing and I feel like it's a bit old from that side of things, like 1970s before internet etc...

Perhaps in this particular story, the boy is painted as somewhat of an outcast, because what he is doing is different, but is he shown in the light of his powers at all? No. The reason being, that's well, the end of the story.

It might be interesting to show the boy as head and shoulders above his peers, a much better specimen of the human condition first, by comparison, but then... We learn, it's not enough to be great. It's not enough to even have superior powers. He wants to feel accepted.

So how does he go about doing this? He keeps his powers a secret. He acts clumsy and stupid, (by his standards) like he knows little and "belongs". In short, dumbs himself down.

Some thoughts for something you might like to try.

As it stands though, I think you did a fine job.  

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Thanks, Sandra for the read.
I see how it pins "homeschooled" as a negative thing. This and my other story for some reason. The thing is I wanted to homeschool my daughter too, then decided against it for different reasons - the truth is, in no way I see it as a bad thing. It's different, true, but there's much good from being homeschooled - you're moving at your own level, deciding on the curriculum and parents know better than teachers...

Here, I think it's homeschooling a boy who has special powers - therefore it's homeschooling a "special" boy which is very different to homeschooling just anybody. This boy wants to fit in.


My other short "Missing School" is about homeschooling too for some reason - if you read that one, you'll think I'm preaching. I don't know how that thought escaped me, I know it's probably not 100% ethical to show homeschooling from only this perspective but I'm writing about homeschooling "handicapped" and "special" and I'm thinking that's different.
If the kid is being homeschooled for the physical deficiency (or super efficiency in this case) then it's not entirely right, I think. And that's where this short came from.
Like I said I was going to homeschool my own daughter, I think if anything it's better education for sure. I looked through the books etc.

Now I have to write two stories about homeschooling being a good thing to make things even
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I think it's an excellent topic to write on-- more so today. Also, I think it's important (for now) to be working in some kind of curriculum framework that is on par with world standards in effective learning communities.

In Austria, where one of my daughters is working as an au pair, their high school finishes when they're 16, or our grade 10. Then, they either go into more of the trades type of work or what is called Mature School.

If you can afford it, probably the very best is a combination of tutors, virtual and community programs in the arts, sciences etc... The old hold, (pardon my rhyme  ) that strictly public governmental schools had on education is being challenged by people who want the freedom to choose better opportunities for their children. Whether the children are extremely gifted, need specific types of programs, or have particular handicaps and disabilities-- I think that schooling for the masses is something that families with higher incomes and social status are likely to shun because they know they can do better.

Unfortunately, better schooling and health care are something that money can buy, and many people still haven't taken the reigns in this regard because they just don't have the finances; however, the option is to work like the carpool idea, building learning co-ops with professionals and tradespeople.

My daughter, Lindsay, is currently on a full scholarship at Xi'an Jiao-Tong University in China. She's on a full scholarship and has been very successful in her learning endeavors. She was homeschooled firstly, because she wasn't permitted to read ahead. That, I thought sucked the big banana and so we said farewell to old school.  

I will be keen on your work in this vein because I think, since you are showing a passion here, that you should stick with it. There's a reason why you're writing in this topic so keep up the good work! It's a loaded subject!

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Hey Khamanna,

I saw the title for this the other day and downloaded it just because the title clicked with me for some reason.  I didn't even know who wrote it until I saw your name when I looked this afternoon to read it.  It's definately a good title.

(The story wasn't at all what I thought it was going to be about.  I thought it was going to be more of a drama.)

All in all, it was a pretty interesting story and an intriguing concept, but it did leave me confused in certain areas.  Reading it through a second time helped clear things up a little bit for me, but there's still some things I'm unsure about.

The main thing was what exactly were Parker's powers?  I understood that he was able to talk with Ben through telekinesis, but I don't understand what had happened with Ben's sister.

I got that Irene was bleeding and vomited, but I'm not connecting how or why Parker would choose to do that to her.  And I don't understand the connection between Ben and the fake blood and fake vomit and why Irene was found in the same manner, but the blood and puke was real.

I also don't understand the initiation or how that was an initiation.  To me, it just kind of came off a little like a lazy game of hide and seek.

But like I said, there is definately an interesting premise with Parker's character here, I think he just needs to be outlined and defined a little more as to what exactly all he can do so we're able to understand a little bit more what exactly is happening and the connections between them.

Hope this helps a little bit, Khamanna.

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Hey Khamanna,

I saw the title for this the other day and downloaded it just because the title clicked with me for some reason.  I didn't even know who wrote it until I saw your name when I looked this afternoon to read it.  It's definately a good title.

(The story wasn't at all what I thought it was going to be about.  I thought it was going to be more of a drama.)

All in all, it was a pretty interesting story and an intriguing concept, but it did leave me confused in certain areas.  Reading it through a second time helped clear things up a little bit for me, but there's still some things I'm unsure about.

The main thing was what exactly were Parker's powers?  I understood that he was able to talk with Ben through telekinesis, but I don't understand what had happened with Ben's sister.

I got that Irene was bleeding and vomited, but I'm not connecting how or why Parker would choose to do that to her.  And I don't understand the connection between Ben and the fake blood and fake vomit and why Irene was found in the same manner, but the blood and puke was real.

I also don't understand the initiation or how that was an initiation.  To me, it just kind of came off a little like a lazy game of hide and seek.

But like I said, there is definately an interesting premise with Parker's character here, I think he just needs to be outlined and defined a little more as to what exactly all he can do so we're able to understand a little bit more what exactly is happening and the connections between them.

Hope this helps a little bit, Khamanna.

- Mark


Mark, I think you're correct. Although I just saw it as typical child's kinduv play. Like kids just do prank stuff and I say it as that, but there is a bit of lack of connection with what happened to the girl and what Parker's buddy did.

Okay, I'm gonna come clean now in Khamanna's thread with what I did as kid in school. Maybe THAT'S what school is good for. Pranks!

We had a lady who was the (can't remember the name of her job description) but she supervised the kids on recess and lunch. Well, brilliant me developed a game I called Wild goose chase". We'd say that there was some fight going on here or there, or some kind of incident. Squashed sandwich and someone was without lunch-- whatever, but none of it was real. G-d bless her heart. I guess G-d thought she needed exercise; so she invented me.  ;D

Ah but we did a lot of good stuff, too. Stayed after school to help teachers and such. Got purposeful detentions so I could get a ride home with my teacher who I was in love with. He was an amazing man. Too bad I didn't live in one of those countries where that kind of thing was acceptable. He was a very wonderful man. Ah-- enough. Putting bad thoughts into youngins heads. You know, there really is a lot of truth in Time Traveler's Wife.

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Thanks Mark.

Parkers brain (unknowingly) made Irene nose bleed - there were the drops of blood on the first floor, just the way Parker saw them in his house. And then in the bathroom she vomited on the floor and the vomit resembled in shape Ben's fake vomit - Parker's brain again staged all of this...

And since he has this many powers he's telekinetic as well.

Some have hard time taking this much in and I get it.
Thanks for the review. It makes me want to simplify his powers. Perhaps I will.

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my favorite thing to do was to watch others rub oil on a blackboard! Never did that myself but always wanted...
You did pretty bad stuff - you're like one of those movie characters!
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Jerry
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I was homeschooled when I was 11, so I felt a slight connection with this script from the get-go. I saw where some others commented that this could be developed into a feature, and I think that could possibly be worth a shot. Or maybe you could do a short sequel where Parker actually gets to go to school but gets expelled by the school board because he inadvertently causes too much mayhem. I don't know... maybe not. But it's a good sign that you've created a character that can spawn other off-shoot ideas.
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This is a really cool premise, the kind of thing that could be expanded into something bigger.

As others have mentioned, I struggled through the first couple of pages, but stayed with it and it picked up.  I think your thought to simplify his powers is a good one.  It was a lot to follow in such a short presentation, but it would be more digestible in a longer format.

Overall, an interesting piece and worth the read.

Thanks for posting.


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Thank you Jerry for the look. I decided to stay away from dramas for the most part and that's why can't develop it into a feature.
You have a very good idea here, maybe if you're interested you could work on it yourself? --just a suggestion.

@jnave, thanks. I'm glad you like the premise of it. I'm planning to rewrite this one.


Thanks all. Please postpone with the comments until I'm done with the rewrite. For some reason it's hard for me to rewrite this one - too many directions to take...

Thanks.
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