I think what's throwing me off here, Balt, is why you're insistent on belittling whatever grief others are having over her death. I have seen her in several things, so when I heard of it, I knew exactly who they were talking about. I told my wife, and she knew who I was talking about as well. Pia, on the other hand, hadn't. So what? Some people will feel her loss because they enjoyed her work. You won't. Why insist that it shouldn't matter to anyone else because it doesn't matter to you? Maybe some people will mourn Sham when he goes, but you won't. Ok. Why make an issue of it?

We all have our opinions and views on the world, and they won't always agree with your view, as you well know. There's no need to insist that it should. And don't say you aren't doing that because there are several posts where you're saying "who cares" and then supporting that viewpoint and then supporting your support for your view.

Personally, the one actor death that got me the most was Phil Hartman. That was tragic and a huge loss.

Not true... I said in my second to last post that "IF" she affected some, sure... It's only natural that there be some remorse.  I just don't think everyone who dies and is/has/was/will be in the spotlight of Hollywood deserves this kind of attention when their work has impacted a very few.  

And to put a measure on that is tough.  It is.  But she, to my knowledge, never did anything to benefit mankind in the least. Not to warrant half or a fraction of the bored as hell media and bloggers are giving her around the world.  Hell, you'd think she tore down the Berlin wall with her bare hands the way some of these people are acting.

Again,  I've felt remorse when a celeb dies and for that I'm not trying to take anything away from those who "actually" feel something for her.  But too many times do I see people leaping onto the bandwagon of good will and this is an instance I feel is being exploited for that.  

If say... Christina Ricci died tomorrow, heaven forbid, how many would leap up and say she was the absolute best of the best?  I'm willing to bet 80% of the free world who are inapt with the media.

Quoted from Baltis. But you're not... So I probably won't have an opinion either way.  It's like someone asking if I like green grapes or red grapes better.  That's how important you are to the fold.  & I've never read anything of yours that would lead me to believe you were a talented writer.

Wow, you really missed my point. Did anybody else get what I was trying to say? I don't feel like elaborating for this guy.

Quoted from Baltis. I just don't think everyone who dies and is/has/was/will be in the spotlight of Hollywood deserves this kind of attention when their work has impacted a very few.

What are you TALKING about!?

Her top three movies alone have made well over $200 million at the domestic box office. You think that's impacted very few people!? Are you kidding!?

I'm done. RIP Brittany Murphy. I'll miss seeing you in the movies.

Quoted from Sham Wow, you really missed my point. Did anybody else get what I was trying to say? I don't feel like elaborating for this guy. What are you TALKING about!? Her top three movies alone have made well over $200 million at the domestic box office. You think that's impacted very few people!? Are you kidding!? I'm done. RIP Brittany Murphy. I'll miss seeing you in the movies.

Are you sure they weren't someone else's movies and she just played some supporting role...? Somewhere there in the background.  Please... You elaborate what your please it still doesn't change the fact you're fantastically mediocre at this.  

On a side note... I wonder if people at her funeral will refer to her as "Britney Murphy" or just "Britney" ...?  You know, cos they knew her.  I guess Larry David calls Ted Danson Ted Danson and not Ted, so I guess that answers my question... Just know that if I was there I'd call her Britney.  I'd say... "Rest In Peace Britney... Movies just won't be the same without a follow up to Little Black Book or your bit role in Sin City"

Quoted from Baltis. On a side note... I wonder if people at her funeral will refer to her as "Britney Murphy" or just "Britney" ...?

Either way would be kinda weird since her first name is Brittany  

But this being Hollywood and all, you just never know.

Quoted from George Willson Maybe some people will mourn Sham when he goes, but you won't.

Yikes...what a dreadful turn this thread has taken.

Now I wonder about what if something DID happen to one of us on the boards?

How would anybody know?  Maybe some of our past members are...gone?  Creepy.

Maybe there should be somebody in charge of doing an internet check on members who mysteriously disappear?

Anyways, I am pissed that Dan O'Bannon only gets 8 posts compared to this girl.

Shame on y'all.  

Quoted from Baltis. Are you sure they weren't someone else's movies and she just played some supporting role...? Somewhere there in the background.  Please... You elaborate what your please it still doesn't change the fact you're fantastically mediocre at this.

Balt, I'm just wondering who you're trying to convince here. Basically, if people found value in whatever she did, why not allow them their moments. Your reactions would be akin to me saying:

"I will really miss my Uncle Bill. He was the best actor I ever knew and touched my life."

and then you coming back with:

"I looked up your 'Uncle Bill' and his career blew goat nuts. Four f***ing bit parts in community theatre and you want to honor him. Next thing you know you'll be praising your mom for her role in Whootenanny 4, which also sucked and so did she. Get off your high horse and realize your Uncle Bill porked chickens for a living and I don't."

Everyone has their opinion. I understand yours perfectly. I'm sure everyone else does too. I still wonder who you're trying to convince...

Quoted from bert Anyways, I am pissed that Dan O'Bannon only gets 8 posts compared to this girl. Shame on y'all.

Balt did it.

Quoted from bert How would anybody know?  Maybe some of our past members are...gone?  Creepy.

I just made you my I.C.D. (In Case of Death) contact #1 - problem is, you'll probably go before I do, ol' timer.

Quoted from sniper I just made you my I.C.D. (In Case of Death) contact #1 - problem is, you'll probably go before I do, ol' timer.

Heh.  Watch your back, a**hole.

You may have a date with ol' Brittany alot sooner than you think.

Gentlemen PLEASE!

Behave!

And you know it's bad when I have to tell you that...

Ren

There is an old saying - if you can't say anything nice, best not say anything at all.

I actually tend not to agree with this - you often have to say things that aren't nice, aren't agreed with, aren't liked. Sometimes it is for the best.

But ... this is not one of them.

This thread was started because some people were shocked, surprised, upset about the death of a young woman who, regardless of her output, had obviously made some contact with them, and who, at 32, was clearly too young to die so suddenly.

If you didn't think much of her, or care whether she died, or like that others were saying, well that is your business - posting comments in such as thread as this though, that is ... disrespectful and unpleasant. Like a mourner at a funeral laughing at the grief of the widow.

There are certain things you shouldn't do. This is one of them, whatever your thoughts, whoever you are - and however superior you think you are.

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Speaking as the person who started the Dan O'Bannon thread I would say that it was shocking to me that he died at just 63 - that is no age at all nowadays. It is a pity that the thread has received so few posts (especially on a site for writers), but then screenwriters don't get recognition in life, so why expect it in death!

Noles or Niles, whoever you are... Take the tampon out, pal.  Stop being an oversensitive conservative and wake the fuck up.  You don't know this person.  It's not like me being at someones funeral and laughing.  It's so far removed from that it isn't funny... You might want people to think I'm doing that and you might even succeed at that but it's not true.

What I am saying and you all, a great many of you all, are ignoring is this -- CUT THE ACT.  Tone it down and be realistic about it.  It's like getting a present and not liking it but saying you do.  Who gains from that?  Do you think when someone hands me something I don't like or don't need I kiss ass and tell the person it's fabulous?  Hell no.  Why?  If I can take it back or they can and get me or them something they can actually use why sacrifice feelings?

Same here... Why the hell should we all sit around, mourn some actress who more than likely killed herself with copious amounts of drugs and weightless pills?  I'm not going to do it.  You all can, and that's fine... More than fine if you actually liked her body of work, which I find it hard anyone who's a real writer could because I haven't seen shit of hers worth piss n' a cat dish and that's that.  Her moves, the one's she actually did headline,  fuckin' sucked and that's that.  She might've been in a few good movies as a bit role but that certainly shouldn't measure her success at all...

Insensative, maybe.  But the truth is you wouldn't give someone a medal of honor if they didn't deserve it would you?  You wouldn't give someone who stole your bike a reward for returning it would you?  Why give praise and compliments and blow summers eve up everyone's twat when it's not deserved?

You ride my coat tails all the time and it's old... you cry to the mods and have my post deleted all the time.  You're like the name taker in grade school when the teacher left the room and it's old hat now.

Quoted from Baltis You ride my coat tails all the time and it's old... you cry to the mods and have my post deleted all the time.  You're like the name taker in grade school when the teacher left the room and it's old hat now.

Sorry, mate - I have never once reported your posts or had any of them deleted. In fact I have never reported anybody's posts on this site, asked for any to be removed, or ever contacted the mods regarding anything I have seen on SS.

If I have a problem with something people say, I can address it myself. I can fight my own battles - and I can do it without name calling like a toddler.

You need to look elsewhere for your alleged persecutors.

To paraphrase Bernstein -

Anyone can be unpleasant, if being unpleasant is all they want to be

There is no such thing as dying before your time.  Otherwise, that person would still be alive.  Saying that someone died before their time is the still-living's way of saying they wish that person had had more time.  Whether it was time they could spend with them, or time to enjoy the works they do, it is merely a wish that the person had had more time.

Brittany Murphy died at 32, and that is sad because we know how long people can live, and she may have had a chance to do even more than she had, but it was her time to die, no matter how it came about.

R.I.P.