The beginning looks great. It looks as though they cut some stuff out to make it at 5 minutes, 'cause it seemed to have moved rather quickly.

Though, I'm glad that the father was killed off in the first 5 minutes. He didn't seem that good. His reaction to his arm getting burned off was just...terrible. If I were him, I'd be screaming or something.

Sean

Quoted from bert Hmm...guess I ain't in the target audience haha. I don't know.  I always thought the Alien movies were kind of classy in their own way -- with top-notch visuals and attention to story -- even if you do not agree with every decision they made with the franchise, at least it looked like they were trying. But now they are just slumming and pandering.  That's how I see it, anyway.

I agree with you about your first point. But I distinguish completely between the Alien franchise and the arcadish 'spawned from a comic-book wet-dream' "VS"-series. AVP is, in mind mind, supposed to be tasteless, or at least disregard good taste in the pursuit or gore and acid blood dripping on people.

Had it been an Alien film, it would've been a different matter.



However I would argue Alien: Resurrection falls outside of the "classy" category. but that's just me.

Quoted from Death Monkey I agree with you about your first point. But I distinguish completely between the Alien franchise and the arcadish 'spawned from a comic-book wet-dream' "VS"-series. AVP is, in mind mind, supposed to be tasteless, or at least disregard good taste in the pursuit or gore and acid blood dripping on people.

Quoted from Death Monkey However I would argue Alien: Resurrection falls outside of the "classy" category. but that's just me.

I agree with both comments. You basically nailed the concept of the AVP franchise. It's definitely not meant to be in the same vein of the actual series themselves. It's definitely for the twelve-fourteen year old who think it'd be cool to see who would beat who. Forget story, haha. The whole merging of franchises is a very Hollywood idea in and of itself as well. I think it's plain to see AVP's not about "classy."

I wouldn't put Alien: Resurrection in the same catagory though. It was just way too self aware. I'm pretty sure it's meant to be a dark comedy/spoof of the series. The director's first two films (Delicatessen and City of Lost Children) were both sort of fantastical dark comedies (check 'em out!). A:R is a little more mainstream than the latter two but the director's sensibilities seem to be the same. I liked it though, even though Joss Wheadon is kinda lame.

Anyway, the AVP clip seems pretty standard. Mindless entertainment, which is what it's meant to be. The rest of the flick might be fun but I think I'll wait for the DVD if I decide to see it at all.

Quoted from James McClung I agree with both comments. You basically nailed the concept of the AVP franchise. It's definitely not meant to be in the same vein of the actual series themselves. It's definitely for the twelve-fourteen year old who think it'd be cool to see who would beat who. Forget story, haha. The whole merging of franchises is a very Hollywood idea in and of itself as well. I think it's plain to see AVP's not about "classy." I wouldn't put Alien: Resurrection in the same catagory though. It was just way too self aware. I'm pretty sure it's meant to be a dark comedy/spoof of the series. The director's first two films (Delicatessen and City of Lost Children) were both sort of fantastical dark comedies (check 'em out!). A:R is a little more mainstream than the latter two but the director's sensibilities seem to be the same. I liked it though, even though Joss Wheadon is kinda lame. Anyway, the AVP clip seems pretty standard. Mindless entertainment, which is what it's meant to be. The rest of the flick might be fun but I think I'll wait for the DVD if I decide to see it at all.

Yeah, I think A:R was obviously a renowned director's artsy (I like Jeunet's other stuff though) take on a series he refused to do conventionally. And the comedy was just way too slapstick and incongruous with everything else. Hedaya's general Perez when he's killed by an Alien was laughable (not in a good way).

On the other hand there were some pretty cool characters and dialogue in it.

Like when Perez offers Elgin a drink.

GEN. PEREZ
You drink, Elgin?

ELGIN: Constantly.

And I loved Annalee Call (mostly because I'm in love with Winona Ryder )

I actually like Joss Whedon. He's not without his flaws and he tends to marginalize dramatic or action scenes in favour of light-hearted banter, but he does that so well. Firefly was probably one of the funniest shows I've ever seen.

Forget Buffy.