With the success of Batman Begins, this film seems more and more likely.

When will this film happen? Christian Bale told the IESB during the Batman Begins press junket that Superman vs Batman could happen down the line but not as an immediate sequel but instead after a few more Batman solo successes.

When Bruce Wayne goes out seeking bloody vengeance on the murderer of his new bride, Jennifer. Superman opposes him, fights him to the near death - then it's discovered that the guy behind Jennifer's murder is also this big baddie in Superman's circle and they unite to fight.

So will Christian Bale and Brandon Routh team up for this "clash of the titans?" Rumors have persisted that both actors contracts have a clause for such option if both franchises end up being successful.

-Zavier

I would love to see this film get the greenlight, I think everyone would love to see two of the world's most iconic superheroes battle it out. It would be something we have never seen before.

I read the script review for BVS and thought it was very good, but I think Warner Bros. were right to re-launch both franchises first. Wolfgang Peterson was attached to direct and even though they shelved the project, he said he would still love to direct it when the time is right.

So I think it is inevitable that these two titans cross paths. Its just a question of time...

I would have doubts about such a match-up. Superman is this all-powerful being, while Batman is just a man. Superman could bench press him and run circles around him. I'm not sure how Batman could hold his own against Superman beyond Superman saying "I don't want to kill you" and holding back.

Read 'The Dark Knight.'  Batman made Superman his biyotch in this one.


Phil

Routh talks Batman Vs.Superman here

-Zavier

Quoted from George Willson I would have doubts about such a match-up. Superman is this all-powerful being, while Batman is just a man. Superman could bench press him and run circles around him. I'm not sure how Batman could hold his own against Superman beyond Superman saying "I don't want to kill you" and holding back.

I'd have to agree. Unless Batman got his hands on some Kryptonite which would be the same situation except Batman having the upper hand.

Personally, I don't know why they'd be fighting in the first place.

Batman beat Superman in 'The Dark Knight,' and he beat the Hulk in 'Batman vs. The Hulk.'  He would win against Superman because he's smarter, craftier and knows that he can't kill Superman.  That means he can do whatever he wants to him.


Phil

I think mixing the "Superman world" and all of it's villians with the well established world in "Batman Begins" is ridiculous. Batman feels like it's more of real world setting with the new series beginning and from the sound of things Superman will probably be in a grander more colorful setting battling some type of Alien beings.

Regardless of how it worked in the comics, in a film an actualy one on one fight batman would get dropped. But that's the appeal of Batman from the beginning. Superman is not a well liked super hero. He's that kid at school who was nice, good in sports, and in school that everybody hates. He has only one weakness which limits his possibilities in creating interesting twists.
While Batman can take a beating from his villains.
It may be a comic book geek's dream come true, but as a non comic book reader I can safetly say it would be really really stupid.

Just to say, I really disliked The Dark Knight. I thought it sucked through and through, but I also only know I'm one of maybe 10 people who think this.

Maybe if BATMAN got his hands on a Kryptonite knuckle-dusters that'd work alittle!

Still love to see BATMAN vs SUPERMAN either way!

Quoted from thegardenstate89 Regardless of how it worked in the comics, in a film an actualy one on one fight batman would get dropped.

You're assuming that this would be like a boxing match where the two would simply punch it out.  The ring would be in Gotham City and/or Metropolis.  And the only rules would be the ones that Superman chooses to follow.


Phil

I haven't ever been a really big Super-man fan. But if they do this right I think it'll turn out awesome. I agree with Phil when it comes to the fight scenes. It would be where they punch the heck out of each other and then its over. I think, if done right, it'll be a lot more awesome than people think it will.

The 'fight' will more than likely be one preventing the other from reaching an objective.  It'll be a battle of wits and resources.


Phil

I see what your saying, that does sound more interesting, then the two plain fighting in the streets. But you have to understand for a non comic book reader it's very hard to imagine the concept working well. It probably is or else the comic fanbase wouldn't be excited about it. From a movies fan point of view (whose comic knowlege goes as far as what the movies theyre made into) it's a silly concept.

If you could point me to  a comic that does do the superman vs. batman thing well please do. I would read it. After all comics are very adaptable to film.

The Dark Knight Returns miniseries had an actual fight in it.  The Man of Steel mini-series by John Byrne was more of a battle of wits.  Kingdom Come was a mini series that pitted Batman's army against Superman's army.


Phil

Both of them have armies? Holy cow, those comic books are way ahead of the movies. Restarting Batman and superman means endless posibilites at the moment. Hopefully they remake the hulk one day.....

'Kingdpm Come' took place in the near future after a new generation of superheroes got out of hand.  Superman gave them a choice:  either join his superhero team and take orders from him, or go to jail.  Batman was against this idea and recruited his own team to stop him.

It was good, to say the least.


Phil

Some cool news (for those of you who enjoyed the latest Superman film), it seems Bryan Singer told MTV that he would consider directing a Batman vs. Superman movie, but only after the Man of Steel establishes his identity more thoroughly.

"I've thought about it for a long time,  even a longer time ago, actually," the director revealed. "But I don't know who would be the villain. I guess Batman would be the villain, but then he can't be too bad, because he is Batman. So not quite yet. ... I think Superman needs to have his own movies for a little while before that happens." Either way, Singer insisted that "everybody's excited to do more ... and I'm sure we'll do another one."

-Zavier

Ok, Is this intended to be animated? If not, this will never happen. It's just a bunch of bullshit. the whole concept is stupid, It's like making a movie about Spiderman vs. the hulk, never going to happen. Superman would crush Batman without even breaking a sweat. If any movie studio takes on this project and makes it a live action, I'll lose all hope in the film industry.

What difference does it make if the film is animated or live-action? The story and action will still be the same anyway. And the outcome of a fight isn't just determined by physicality or pound-for-pound, it's about planning and tact. In this respect Batman would win. He is cunning and ruthless and he never backs down once he sets off, no matter who he is up against. The mere fact that Superman thinks he is invincible makes him vulnerable, because he will therefore underestimate Batman. Read the BVS script on this site and you'll understand.

IronPeace, read The Dark Knight series.


Phil

This would be the dumbest f***ing movie ever. If they had to do a versus of superheros, I'd much rather see Batman vs. Spiderman.

Quoted from Steve-Dave This would be the dumbest f***ing movie ever. If they had to do a versus of superheros, I'd much rather see Batman vs. Spiderman.

How can you say the phrases 'dumbest fucking movie' and 'Batman vs. Spiderman' in the same post?  I'm dumbfounded.

For starters, it's more than just the epic fight that will happen but the build up before it.  Batman and Superman have two completely different approaches to battling crime.  Their personalities would clash both in and out of costume.  Batman would just write Spidey off as an idiot and would mop the floor with him.

And no one suggest Batman vs Wolverine!  That would be a bad story, too.

I'm not saying that the story would be bad or anything. It just doesn't seem likely that they would make this movie. But, that's my opinion. If this movie does get made, it will be interesting, but I'm not expecting much.

Quoted from dogglebe Batman would just write Spidey off as an idiot and would mop the floor with him.

Right, and Superman wouldn't "mop the floor" with Batman in two seconds. I see your point.

Read 'The Dark Knight.'  Batman beat him.

Dogglebe is right, Batman would tear the living snot out of Superman.

Superman is too "good."  Batman is more dark and is not as compassionate as Superman.  This means he will use whatever means necessary to defeat his foes.

And if you want to read a draft of this script, there's one on the movie scripts page. It's by Andrew Kevin Walker and revised by Akiva Goldsman.

Quoted from dogglebe Read 'The Dark Knight.'  Batman beat him.

I would have to read that one Phil. I just can't picture Batman beating Superman... especially after watching Batman Begins (great movie) and Superman Returns (great movie). Does Batman actually have any super powers? I'm actually not sure if he's just James Bond wearing a bat suit without the more modern gadgets.

I still think Batman is the coolest between the two. I mean, c'mon, the Superman suit is pretty pathetic. But Superman has... well, superpowers and can only die from... whatever that substance is that can kill him.

If you don't mind me asking Phil, how does Batman beat Superman?

GBM

Quoted from Parker how does Batman beat Superman?

He does it with an artificial powered exoskeleton, the Batmobile, synthetic kryptonite and a mysterious pill... and yeah, people should read anything from Frank Miller's Dark Knight Universe.

-Zavier

Quoted from Nixon He does it with an artificial powered exoskeleton, the Batmobile, synthetic kryptonite and a mysterious pill... and yeah, people should read anything from Frank Miller's Dark Knight Universe.

Frank Miller? The same guy who did Sin City? Awesome, I'll definitely have to check his other stuff out.

Batman is indeed pretty much like James Bond with a bunch of cool gadgets. He's as mortal and human as the rest of us. That's part of his appeal. He's not an alien like Superman is.

Quoted from George Willson Batman is indeed pretty much like James Bond with a bunch of cool gadgets. He's as mortal and human as the rest of us. That's part of his appeal. He's not an alien like Superman is.

Pretty much like James Bond?  Bond isn't worthy of scraping the guano off of Batman's boots.  Batman has gone against a number of super-powered villains, including Killer Croc,  Clayface and Manbat.  He also fought and defeated the Hulk in the 1980s.  Batman would take Superman's ethics and beat him to death them.


Phil

The only comparison I drew between the two is that they're mortal and uses gadgets. Beyond that, they're completely different character-wise. They just deal with different parts of society -- different types of people.