Rob Zombie is officially returning to write and direct a sequel to his popular remake.

Info here- http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/14672

My feelings on the first are weird. At first I was all googly and loved it. Then, upon more viewings, the hillbilly dialog and depressed atmosphere really grated on my nerves. I watched it again last week, and it's not that bad. It's just one of those films you need to be in the mood for. I'll check out the sequel.

~Zack~

Early teaser art here- http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/14681

Yes, I know the film was just announced yesterday. This art is legit. Also, the working title seems to be "H2".

~Zack~

New poster here- http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/16531

This one actually looks pretty cool.

The trailer looks... meh. It looked good until Sheri Moon popped up. WTF!? Her ghost is in this? Fuck me.

~Zack~

I don't want to go into my "Zombie, the reason Myers is scary is because we don't know why he's killing, so your ruining it" but it looks like I just did.

however, despite the fact that it looks meh, that poster is AWESOME

I wasn't a big fan of the remake, mostly cuz the characters were so hateful and cruel, but I'll probably go see this cuz I do think Zombie knows how to shoot, he's got a good eye, and yeah, that poster is freakin' sweet!

Quoted from Zack until Sheri Moon popped up.  Her ghost is in this?

Yep, Zombie said something like she's guiding Micheal or something like that. Sounds stupid to me

Rob Zombie is an idiot... He goes back on his word more than the entire democratic party does. He's probably a democrat himself, tho...

He firmly said  "I will not do a follow up. I only have interest in the beginning, middle and end of the new franchise"  

Then this junk.  It's like he only came back to it so he could give his talentless wife some more work. Well, work where she's not always underneath a table... Or dancing atop one.

Rob Zombie, you suck... I don't like you. I think your shitty music is only eclipsed by your shitty movies. Halloween remake is about the most piss poor remake of them all.

First of all, the Halloween remake is far from the worst remake of the bunch. (The Grudge, Psycho, and Carrie 2002 to name a few, are amongst those)

But yes, it was indeed pretty mediocre. I'd say I at least enjoyed it.

But you are correct -- Zombie does indeed go back on his work a lot. Enough to call him a flat out liar. Not only did he say he wouldn't do a follow-up, he also said (back when House of 1000 Corpses was coming out) that remakes were "the worst thing a filmmaker coud do". What does he do in 2007? He remakes Halloween and even has the nerve to say that it's not a remake, but a "re-imagining" (seriously, whoever actually bought that crap is a moron, plain and simple).

Then he goes back to bull- shitting everyone with stuff like " I wouldn't do it if I wasn't sure it worked", or "I have a vision which I believe will work". He's just trying to kiss ass and I hate it. And this is coming froma guy who used to like him, at least as a musician.

--Julio

Interesting to see that this was - seemingly - universally disliked by SSers.

The original 'Halloween' was a masterpiece of horror, and going for the same feel would've been - in my opinion - a bad move 'cos it would very likely fall short. Therefore, the route that Zombie took was a pleasant surprise to me. This provided a different angle to the same source material, yet it retained the core feel of the initial opener. 'The Devil Rejects' was a very poor film, and it seems that Zombie realised his mistakes and corrected them for a remake as important as 'Halloween'.

Anyone else enjoy the Zombie 'Halloween'?

Andrew

No, it was too depressing. Not even scary, nobody really jumped even once, the kills were not impressive, just garbage

Halloween 1 & 2 work"ED" because there was a level of mystery and continuity within them. A strange connection from Camera to viewer that is now lost in all horror movies. Halloween 1 & 2 are the definitive examples of what "REAL" horror and suspense should be.

It's a lost art.

Rob Zombie can't write worth piss n' a cat dish... He can't direct worth piss n' a cat dish and he can't compose music worth piss n' a cat dish. He's famous cos' nobody else had anything better to do one day.

It's like the El-Camino ... It's a bad idea. We all know it... But you get a couple high idiots together with some spare vehicle parts and look what you get.  Same thing with Rob Zombie... He took a good idea and ran it into the ground.. And he'll do it again. Wait and see.  

The original was just as bad and I have watched both.

The only good thing about Zombie's films is the fact that he includes lots and lots of extras and that makes the DVD's worth it. The movies are iffy at best.

I have the original Halloween on Blu Ray... the movies are similar and both are poor examples of "film" but I guess the word classic is thrown around so much anymore who knows.

Halloween II will be the second Halloween II which will become confusing.

Zombie can't direct, or, direct a scary film. Neither can Eli Roth but who's counting?

I caught "The Devil's Rejects" last night on IFC, and while I think it's a flawed film, I still think it's well done.

Not a huge fan of his other work though.  "House of 1000 Corpses" was atrocious.

True but what did you think of hostel's 1 & 2? Wow those films were absolutely HORRIBLE.

Quoted from Aaron True but what did you think of hostel's 1 & 2? Wow those films were absolutely HORRIBLE.

I don't really know what those have to do with Rob Zombie, but I only saw Hostel 1 and thought it was pretty awful.  I'm not really an Eli Roth fan; although I did appreciate his "Thanksgiving" trailer because it was spot-on.

True. Well back to Zombie, he really can't direct. All he does his make his films dark, gory but what a coincidence! He leaves out the horror!

Tried to watch Halloween once, but fell asleep.

I did watch both Hostel 1 and 2. Preferred the second, but thought they were both okay. When they're on tv, I watch them again...  Maybe it's the European in me. Who knows.

To be honest, I think a lot of people hate on Rob Zombie just because it's the popular thing to do. I personally think he's a decent director. He just has a very certain style about him that many find off putting. I will say that the man shouldn't be aloud to touch pen to paper. If it weren't for the incredibly hateful characters in his films, I believe they would be more accepted(Halloween especially). And constantly casting his wife is a BIG mistake. She couldn't act her way out of a paper bag.

~Zack~

The best part of the Halloween remake, IMHO, was the part that wasn't the remake. The back story of Michael was done fairly well, and I was getting the idea that it wasn't going to be so bad. Then they started in on the remake part. It went downhill very quickly mainly because they were trying to squeeze a story that originally ran for ninety minutes into a 45 minute space. All the kills were over before they began which destroyed the suspense. In addition, they were all hacked quickly with a knife as opposed to any level of creativity that the original displayed.

I thought it was a movie that started off well, but ended badly because he tried to reinvent a perfectly good wheel. He should have just done Halloween: The Prequel and left the rest alone.

As for a second one, of course I'll watch it. I'm a sucker for these things.

The only good thing about House of 1000 Corpses was nothing.

The only good thing about The Devil's Rejects was William Forsythe, DDP, Danny Trejo and Ken Foree.

The only good thing about RZH was William Forsythe and Danielle Harris's hot little ass.

The only good thing about RZH II?  Danielle Harris.

Poor fuckin Forsythe =(

Quoted from slabstaa The only good thing about The Devil's Rejects was William Forsythe, DDP, Danny Trejo and Ken Foree.

I thought Bill Moseley and Sid Haig were good too.  

Quoted from George Willson The best part of the Halloween remake, IMHO, was the part that wasn't the remake. The back story of Michael was done fairly well, and I was getting the idea that it wasn't going to be so bad. Then they started in on the remake part. It went downhill very quickly mainly because they were trying to squeeze a story that originally ran for ninety minutes into a 45 minute space. All the kills were over before they began which destroyed the suspense. In addition, they were all hacked quickly with a knife as opposed to any level of creativity that the original displayed. I thought it was a movie that started off well, but ended badly because he tried to reinvent a perfectly good wheel. He should have just done Halloween: The Prequel and left the rest alone. As for a second one, of course I'll watch it. I'm a sucker for these things.

I think you make a good point there, George.

I wonder if they ever considered going with the prequel idea, but decided - for commercial reasons - to run with the 're-imagining'.

Andrew

Quoted from George Willson The best part of the Halloween remake, IMHO, was the part that wasn't the remake. The back story of Michael was done fairly well, and I was getting the idea that it wasn't going to be so bad.

That's what killed the remake... Seeing who Michale Myers was was a mistake. Letting us know why Michale did the things he did and was who he was, was a mistake... We didn't need to know. It was better that we didn't know. Michale was an entity of his self... A seemingly normal kid who did what he did for reasons all to himself.

Michale lived in a normal house in a normal neighborhood. He had a normal family. He was a normal kid on the outside. That is what made the original so compelling. That is why he was so interesting.

Michale was just a fucked up seed. It happens all to often in society for no reason at all... There didn't have to be bulling. There didn't have to be abuse. There didn't have to be the drunk step dad and trashy house.... It made it better that there wasn't. It was even more puzzling that there wasn't, and thus Dr. Loomis was needed in the original... He was "OUR" gap and guide to Michaels past... He let the audience know who Michale was and he didn't even understand him fully.

So if he didn't understand him... A trained child psychologist -- How are we suppose to?

Don't show me the back story...

Quoted from dresseme I thought Bill Moseley and Sid Haig were good too.

yeah you got a point but I dont like Moseley

I think Zombie was the worst possible choice to revamp a series that I regard so highly - well at least 1,2,3,4,and 7.

He ended up taking the sister route which was possibly the biggest problem with the "old series" even though he insisted he has never seen any of the sequels - later to claim he had seen them and labled them "pathetic".

The guy is a massive hypocrite and when he was remaking the first film, I just had concerns when he was pointing out problems he had with the original, which were not really problems at all, and then he never rectified such problems in his version. If anything, he made them worse.
His idea of realism is beyond me because just off the top of my head I dont beleive they give knives to mental patients and send in nurses to insult said patient to trigger him off and then turn their back on them. Just one complaint and I dont want to get into it.
I'm sure Michael in the original could master a car in the original's escape. It's not impossible and ffs, I even wrote a better sequence based off the book. Zombie has him take out about 15 people, escape on foot in SLIPPERS, wearing a bright orange mask and then kill a guy in a busy garage stop and he escapes with no problems?

I'm not a fan of the half mask, TV spots, Myers throw a car off a cliff, mother hallucinating, more trashy characters ect. but that's because I am a die hard fan of the original series and I don't really like the change that I dont personally feel was needed.

Halloween 8 was woeful, but to go to this drastic level is just beyond. I think Zombie , also who has said on the H25 documentry " I hate horror movies with faceless characters" - then proceeds to make the Halloween remake with Annie's bf being killed who we never even see - and such gems as " Horror fans will just buy horror films anyway regardless of how good they are".

His documentary on Devils Reject and Halloween was great to see. He seems to have so much of an eye on the ball in these little insights but he is just not cutting it for me at the moment on the main thing - the fricking movie!

I think he is a good director in that he can put together some decent shots and establish mood ( apart from the crazy cheap shaky cam shite) but he needs to direct his actors more instead of just leaving it down to improv. Also his dialouge is just awful. He has no range in that department, whatsoever.

Myers at his best, for me was H1,2 and possibly 4. Even H20 if I squint my eyes when the masks switch over from time to time. I think they work because the focus is not on Myers essentially, it is more on the victims and was more on , in Halloween 2 and 7, the after effects of what Myers had done. Myers just occasionally appearing, his legs walking through a door, his breathing, whatever, just elevated the need and suspense to see the climax.
Halloween II scared the hell outta me as a kid. It was the first Myers film I saw and the chase scenes with him and Laurie, I think, are legendary! The pacing, the music, the look of the whole thing. Never will that be seen again. It just felt terryfying.

I want to like H2,  I want to actually gain some enthuisiam to want to see it, but it's not even a Halloween film to me. It just looks like what the other bazillion slasher films did after the orginal was made - try and copy the formula but change the killer.
And Halloween II, 4, ect did copy the original but they ( the good ones ) kept the formula that made the original succesful. Which I think was simple :
Don't f@@@ with Michael Myers!

Knock Knock is 10x's the movie Halloween remake is... That's sad, cos Rob Zombie has way more backers. It just shows you don't need millions, your slutty wife and rock n' roll in your film to make a decent product.

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810061258/trailer

New trailer is out.

Can't say it looks that good.  More of the same.

I really can't say I agree with you, Dressel. It looks really different to the rest of the films. More psychological than anything. Looks like it might still be good.

Not to mention, it looks great on a purely technical level too. Good atmosphere, lighting, etc.

I'll be mindful of the fact that it's Rob Zombie, so my standards aren't too high. But I'll be watching it.

--Julio

Quoted from ReaperCreeper It looks really different to the rest of the films. More psychological than anything.

More psychological?  It's just him storming around, killing people.....again.

I kind of wish Zombie would move on and do something else....like T-Rex..




But apparently he can't get funding for that.

Gotta say that's the best trailer yet. Again, the trailer for his remake looked great as well, so I'm not gonna jump the gun and say this will be great. I will watch it though.

~Zack~

Quoted from dresseme More psychological?  It's just him storming around, killing people.....again.

Well...obviously.

Except MAYBE for the original, Michael getting into whatever place and killing people is the trademark of the series. That's not gonna go away any time soon.

I'm talking about the characters. Laurie is clearly about to snap and even the other characters seem damaged by their encounter with Michael in the first movie. The old franchise tried to do this, but besides Loomis and maybe Jaime, they didn't really emphasize it.

Michael himself is treated in a more psychological-horror aspect this time around as well.

Rob still seems to have a  hard-on for gross and perverted characters though. That really needs to go. Horror doesn't work if the victims aren't sympathetic.

And yeah, T-Rex looks very good -- the idea of it, anyway.

--Julio


  

Quoted from ReaperCreeper Rob still seems to have a  hard-on for gross and perverted characters though. That really needs to go. Horror doesn't work if the victims aren't sympathetic.

I think those types of characters work great in horror films... as long as they're the villains! The biggest problem with RZ's Halloween was that most of the victoms were no more sympathetic than Micheal himself.

~Zack~

I have to say I think the trailer was the best footage I have seen from this movie.
It looks like it will have a good atmosphere, at least.
The simple theme over the trailer also helped create a more creepy feel about it.
I'm kind of dreading what kind of characters we will end up seeing in this, but I hope there is at least one person you might want to see stay alive.

I just hope this ends up at least being a half decent movie. It might be a little cheesey, but I just hope Zombie has upped his game for this. I'm still going to watch it with low expectations but the trailer peaked my interest.

Yeah but Dressel that whole thing with his wife being in Micheal's head. Dumbest thing ever right!?

Quoted from Aaron Yeah but Dressel that whole thing with his wife being in Micheal's head. Dumbest thing ever right!?

There's none of that in the new trailer. Maybe Rob listened to the fans and cut her part... God, I fucking hope so.

~Zack~

Quoted from Aaron Yeah but Dressel that whole thing with his wife being in Micheal's head. Dumbest thing ever right!?

Just another excuse to put his wife in the film.  

They wouldnt cut her out of the film just to suit what fans have moaned about and rightly so. I just think this trailer decided against putting her images in it as they have been shown before.

I think the glimpses show Scout kind of morphing into Sherri - mother/daughter thing -  as are some of the other hallucinations that Myers may see of himself and his mother and his younger self.
I'm thinking that by the end of the flick, Myers and Laurie may share something, like a completion of a circle. How it comes across, hopefully not as deluded as I described, is interesting to me.

I dont want a H4 ending, but I suppose the good thing about it is that from the trailer you dont really know how it will all end up.

One negative, or positive, is when I watch the trailer I cant stop laughing at the Coroner van crash and the driver inside: " I'm trapped, help - OWWWW!"
Loomis " D-E-A-D!" speech comes across pretty awkward too.

Love seeing Micheal tip over the car. Pretty cool stuff.

~Zack~

I thought House of 1000 Corpses was excellent. A really, really good, low budget film with interesting characters, excellent visuals and great atmosphere.

Film is a funny thing.

I think he was on a hiding to nothing with Halloween. It was a one movie trick that worked really well in the hands of an accomplished director but had no where to go after that.

The only thing really going for it was the whole "boogeyman" thing where he was there one minute and gone the next.

Michael Myers is a fun character and one of the favourites along with Freddy and Jason, but like Jason, his story is very restricting (a Freddy remake would be much easier, you can do anything with a guy who invades dreams).

There just isn't enough in the story to take it anywhere. Films have moved on in the last 30 years.

The back story was a mistake because it took away the only thing that was interesting about the character (the mystery), but at the same time the whole mystery thing is redundant now anyway because he's such an established character and the genre has developed beyond that.

In some ways they would have been better off getting rid of everything apart from Myers and just completely re-inventing it, rather than refining it.

The trailer looked in between good and alright. lol "Ow I'm trapped"

I agree, the car tipping over was kind of cool. Looks interesting but..still a little iffy. Am I the only one who liked that D-E-A-D speech?