Quoted from screenrider George, you're always so level-headed.  Not too far right, not too far left.  I've often wondered what it would take to really rattle your cage.  Everybody has their boiling point. Just an observation.

Everyone does have their boiling point, but can simply take more heat than others. I can get annoyed, but I rarely get angry. Just a decision I made at one point. I try to find the logic in situations and it is often comforting to find it.

Quoted from George Willson Everyone does have their boiling point, but can simply take more heat than others. I can get annoyed, but I rarely get angry. Just a decision I made at one point. I try to find the logic in situations and it is often comforting to find it.

Might be an interesting topic for JohhnyBoy's challenge.   How much does it take to make someone snap?

The film "Falling Down" comes to mind.   Great flick.  

Andrew, you and I do seem to be polar opposites, but that's OK, isn't it?

BTW, I HATE the Celtics!  Always have and always will.  My team has always been the the LAKERS! A few years back, when those heinous Celtcis came back 20+ points in the finals against us, I went into a rage and broke a door in my house.  About 30 minutes later, the police had arrived.  One of them knocked on my door...I answered it (quite wasted, BTW).  He had backed off the front porch and had his gun drawn on me as I opened the door.  Several other cops were in the driveway, all with drawn guns.

Everything was cool within a few minutes.  As it turns out, an ex girlfriend who I was talking with had called the police, based on how wasted and happy I was while talking with her on the phone (she lives over 2,000 miles away, also).  Unbelievable!



EDIT - Who's fucking with me?  HORSESHIT!!!

Quoted from screenrider The film "Falling Down" comes to mind.   Great flick.

Agreed. But, it's Joel Schumacher. He's so hit or miss, it's not even funny. For every Falling Down, you got an 8MM. You get a Lost Boys, but then, you have to endure Batman & Robin. He gives you a Tigerland and hope seems to rise until you have to sit through The Number 23.

It's just a shame.

8MM was good, IMO.  The Number 23 was alright, but not horrible at all.

I agree Jeff...8MM was much better than most thrillers and Number 23 was interesting.

Batman and Robin is a different matter.

Oh, come on. From who the writer was (AKW on 8MM), he could've easily come up with something much better than that. Maybe I was just much more disappointed by who wrote it than the movie actually being bad, but still... you know?

As for The Number 23, the noir-style stuff was good but it suffered heavily from Silent Hill syndrome. Just exposition over and over for almost the entire final act. It got tedious quickly. It kind of ruined what had been created by the rest of the movie.

Maybe I over-exaggerated, but still, Schumacher is good enough to choose better scripts than he has, overall in his career.

AKW?

The only great thing he wrote was Seven...and frankly I think the quality of the film owed one helll of a lot to David Fincher.

Hideaway, Brainscan, Sleepy Hollow, The Wolfman...all pretty by the numbers.

8MM is the second best thing he's ever done.

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films AKW? The only great thing he wrote was Seven...and frankly I think the quality of the film owed one helll of a lot to David Fincher. Hideaway, Brainscan, Sleepy Hollow, The Wolfman...all pretty by the numbers. 8MM is the second best thing he's ever done.

The Game blows 8MM away, despite the ending. Just me, though.

EDIT: The Wolfman isn't his fault, at all, so you can't throw that in there. They had a draft of AKW's in there with Romanek (One Hour Photo) directing. Then, they dropped Romanek over "creative differences", re-drafted AKW's script and they even re-dubbed Elfman's score. So, that one gets thrown out. And, I like Brainscan. But, I'll give you Hideaway and Sleepy Hollow.

EDIT 2: While I'm at it, I forgot about his un-credited re-write of Koepp's Stir of Echoes which is a really good movie that got lost under The Sixth Sense for no reason.

Quoted from Mr. Blonde The Game blows 8MM away, despite the ending. Just me, though.

Writers :John D. Brancato (written by) &
Michael Ferris.

Nowt to do with him. Fincher directed it though, maybe that's where you're getting confused.

Quoted from Mr. Blonde The Game blows 8MM away, despite the ending. Just me, though. EDIT: The Wolfman isn't his fault, at all, so you can't throw that in there. They had a draft of AKW's in there with Romanek (One Hour Photo) directing. Then, they dropped Romanek over "creative differences", re-drafted AKW's script and they even re-dubbed Elfman's score. So, that one gets thrown out. And, I like Brainscan. But, I'll give you Hideaway and Sleepy Hollow.

All of his films are alright...just not that great, so I didn't understand why you were so disappointed with 8MM. As far as story goes it's probably the best he's written after Seven.

No, I'm not. I swear he, at least, did a draft of it. Let me look it up, because I know Fincher directed. I swear it was their econd pairing.

"Andrew Kevin Walker was one of the uncredited writers."

But, I was mistaken. I thought it was his script originally. My bad.

Quoted from Mr. Blonde No, I'm not. I swear he, at least, did a draft of it. Let me look it up, because I know Fincher directed. I swear it was their econd pairing. "Andrew Kevin Walker was one of the uncredited writers." But, I was mistaken. I thought it was his script originally. My bad.

Fair enough. He seems to have done a lot of uncredited re-writes on a lot of good stuff, so it's hard to say how much input any of them had.

Says he worked on Fight Club, Event Horizon and a good few others as well. I also read that he disowned 8MM because they made it too studio friendly when his script was a lot darker...be interesting to have seen what the original story was.

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films I also read that he disowned 8MM because they made it too studio friendly when his script was a lot darker...be interesting to have seen what the original story was.

Seriously. I mean, the movie, as is, was pretty dark and his was darker. Lol. I just think it's one of those ideas that won't quite work no matter who wrote it. However, we did get Stormare + a crossbow. Can't go wrong there.

I found someone who says they have the original script of it, though. Maybe I'll check it out.

Quoted from Mr. Blonde Seriously. I mean, the movie, as is, was pretty dark and his was darker. Lol. I just think it's one of those ideas that won't quite work no matter who wrote it. However, we did get Stormare + a crossbow. Can't go wrong there. I found someone who says they have the original script of it, though. Maybe I'll check it out.

Why do you think that? I thought the central premise was incredibly strong, way above the usual. Lots of natural conflict, mystery and a great setting in the underworld.