the show bled over half of its American Idol lead in audience.... to register a 5.7ish...

hopefully it wont lose any more of the show could be canned.

I think it's evident that to succeed in the film industry, you need to have good social skills and be proficient with oral communication.  It was pathetic to see some of these hopefuls step in front of the judges only to completely choke.

And Carrie Fisher is still Princess Leia to me!

Quoted from greg I think it's evident that to succeed in the film industry, you need to have good social skills and be proficient with oral communication.  It was pathetic to see some of these hopefuls step in front of the judges only to completely choke. And Carrie Fisher is still Princess Leia to me!

Well maybe that's the reason so much crap comes out of Hollywood each year? Those who get stuff made are mediocre film-makers on all accounts, but they can sell sand in Sahara. they can sell themselves.

While there might be true visionaries out there who without any social skills at all.

Come to think of it, some of the greatest geniuses of the 20th century were excentrics, oddballs, social recluses, Asphergers, and neurotics.

Perhaps Hollywood just simply isn't the place to nurture genius?

True, you don't need to be vocal to be an icon, but to be a successful filmmaker, it's imperative that you know how to talk.  That Rahim guy, for example, comes on stage and gives these disclaimers and stuff, basically saying "sorry, I suck under pressure, I couldn't do this, it was hard, I have no self confidence, blah blah blah."  I think Ratner said it best, you gotta have confidence in your work and you gotta back it up.

Of course, if someone comes off like that wacko who was whipping his belt all over the place, then that's just as bad  

Quoted from greg True, you don't need to be vocal to be an icon, but to be a successful filmmaker, it's imperative that you know how to talk.  That Rahim guy, for example, comes on stage and gives these disclaimers and stuff, basically saying "sorry, I suck under pressure, I couldn't do this, it was hard, I have no self confidence, blah blah blah."  I think Ratner said it best, you gotta have confidence in your work and you gotta back it up. Of course, if someone comes off like that wacko who was whipping his belt all over the place, then that's just as bad

haha yeah my jaw dropped when he started taking off his belt! And then afterwards when he said "You know I did what I wanted to do, I unleashed the thunder..." I was rolling on the floor. "Unleashed the thunder"?? Who does this guy think he is? David Copperfield?

I think you're right when it comes to directors. they need to be able to lead and to communicate. But the problem is the same standards apply for screenwriters, whose profession historically has been riddled with insecure social lost causes who write exactly because they can't talk, because they aren't vocal. Because they can only put their ideas into writing and not speech.

And it'd be really cool if there was a place where these guys' talent was nurtured like the loudmouth's talent is in Hollywood.

By the way whatever happened to that cute little red-head who was cut on the first day. I don't think she ever got on camera. She was one of them who got cut from Randy Slavin's group. I wonder what her name was and film she did? And what her phone number is...

Quoted from Death Monkey But the problem is the same standards apply for screenwriters, whose profession historically has been riddled with insecure social lost causes who write exactly because they can't talk, because they aren't vocal. Because they can only put their ideas into writing and not speech.

You're absolutely right.  A large percentage of writers seem to be a much different bunch than directors. And it's a shame too, because some of the most quiet folk can be amazing visionaries and, as you said, they just don't have the balls to get out there and show their stuff.

I'll just leave this with a statement that I like living by: The only thing stopping you from doing something...is you.

they seem like they are looking for the next great filmmaker...and that would require someone who's a "jack of all trades"

Martin,
I thought I recognized that guy! I remember seeing your film a few months ago and remember the director. I saw him on Fox's website. They have a five-minute intro to the show. Go there and you will see him. I don't get it down here until the 29th. Good job with that, Martin! The director for my short, Manipulating Life, made the second round(top 100) but was eliminated due to his second round, film. Was interviewed in LA and everything. Pretty impressive out of 11,000 films/directors selected. Now I know who to root for! Go Martin's film/director/screenplay!

Joseph

Quoted from SwapJack they seem like they are looking for the next great filmmaker...and that would require someone who's a "jack of all trades"

That's pretty much how it's done with the small budget indie films.  No one has one job and the director, pretty much, has to be ready to do them all.


Phil

I just thought about something. How about a Simply Scripts Pitch challenge?

It would work similarly to on the show, only, you know, in writing. But we'd get 24 hours and then we'd have to pitch a movie from an assigned Logline.

Could be good for creativity, like the OWC.

Of course if you get a really good idea, you might not wanna post it with all the plagiarism around these days...hmmm.

Quoted from Death Monkey I just thought about something. How about a Simply Scripts Pitch challenge?

I would do that. I like to think I work pretty well under pressure.

There is a website, voteforthteworst.com, that encouraged people to vote for the worst singer in American Idol.  This is why Sanjaya lasted so long.  Anyway, they are now targetting On The Lot.

I bring this up because I like this show and would hate to see these assholes ruin someone's chance at winning by purposely voting for the worst filmmaker.  I'm not going to say who to vote for; that's up to you.  You can visit onthelot.com and see the shorts that are in the competition.  Some are good.  Some are bad.  If we vote, we might be able to counteract these assholes and their counterproductive nonsense.



Phil

Quoted from Martin Holy shit! 'Anniversary' actually made the finals and I only just found out. Top 50 out of 12000. I'm awestruck. Shame I can't watch the show cos I'm in Germany. Need to hunt for it online. Vote Randy Slavin! He's the guy from NY with long hair and a 'tache.

Sorry about your guy being eliminated. Looks like he got eliminated in Round Two. I think the judges referred to his group’s 24-Hour Film as “style over substance.”  

I'm pretty embarrassed for a lot of these guys. They aren't very good. Some are talented and good pitching and things like that, but the production values for a lot of these films (mainly the cinematography) is extremely lame.

-Rubix

I enjoyed most of the shorts.  One was extremely bad.  Most others were problematic.  And many were very good.  Two or three three stuck out over the rest.

I enjoy this show.


Phil