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dogglebe
Posted: May 30th, 2007, 9:03am Report to Moderator
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Umm, yeah.  I missed that one but, but yeah....


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I don't see why everyone got so pissy over the Getta Rhoom movie.  Yeah, the nerd came off as a mental, so let's all condemn the filmmaker to hell.  And then that Phil Hawkins wanker goes up to the filmmaker(I think his name is Jason) and tries to feed his own ego by bitching about how he was offended.  I mean shut up, dude.  He's trying to blow up his bubble because his film sucked so he was trying to make himself feel better.  I'm glad he's gone.

And these "judges" are absolutely pointless.  Not to mention that I'm sick and tired of the whole "we'll find out who goes home...AFTER THE BREAK!! WEEEE!"  Wow.

Right now I think there's only a handful of people that are contenders for this show in the sense that they're talented, have good social skills, and aren't jerks.  


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I don't see why everyone got so pissy over the Getta Rhoom movie.  Yeah, the nerd came off as a mental, so let's all condemn the filmmaker to hell...


I realize the guy explains that he never intended for the character to be challenged. But I have written handicapped characters and experienced something similar. Producers felt that it was offensive to handicapped people because the villain was in a wheelchair.

I told the director the only thing I’m guilty of is treating handicapped characters the same as I would any other characters.

It’s like handicapped people aren’t allowed to be portrayed in any way negative - but it only seems to apply to comedies. No one complained that Mr. Potter from It’s A Wonderful Life was insulting to handicapped people.

Suppose there was a series about handicapped people in which the majority of characters were handicapped. Would it be expected to have no villains? In my opinion, it’s the people who are so offended by this type of material who are the prejudiced ones. They think handicapped people can only fill nice or inspirational roles. Ask any handicapped actor and they’ll tell you they just wish there were any roles at all for them.


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Quoted from Breanne Mattson


I realize the guy explains that he never intended for the character to be challenged. But I have written handicapped characters and experienced something similar. Producers felt that it was offensive to handicapped people because the villain was in a wheelchair.

I told the director the only thing I’m guilty of is treating handicapped characters the same as I would any other characters.

It’s like handicapped people aren’t allowed to be portrayed in any way negative - but it only seems to apply to comedies. No one complained that Mr. Potter from It’s A Wonderful Life was insulting to handicapped people.

Suppose there was a series about handicapped people in which the majority of characters were handicapped. Would it be expected to have no villains? In my opinion, it’s the people who are so offended by this type of material who are the prejudiced ones. They think handicapped people can only fill nice or inspirational roles. Ask any handicapped actor and they’ll tell you they just wish there were any roles at all for them.


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Exactly! You really hit the nail on the head.

Hollywood is shit scared of being 'offensive' which means that they won't take any chances. Also, I've noticed how they do it with race as well. In most cases you can only have a black villain if the hero is black as well, because Hollywood is afraid that if they set up a white guy against a black guy it's gonna look like a race-war. Doesn't work the other way around though.

Funny thing is, like with handicapped people, the people who are offended are almost always people who have no stake in the joke. People who get offended ON BEHALF of the handicapped, the homosexuals, the little people or whatever minority you wanna put in there.



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I watched a couple of the episodes... I didn't really enjoy them.

As for writing, according to the end of episode 2, if I remember correctly, they were given 4 scripts to choose from for their 1 minute clips that were shown in episode 3 and 4.  So these goofs are not writing them.  However, I almost wish they were... I really haven't seen a clip I have truly enjoyed yet.  The girl announcer annoys me and the contestants are being made out to be twits.  The director/editor/producers are highlighting the conflicts and not the creative aspect of film making.

And I don't know why they gush over Zack the FX dude. I haven't seen him do anything really complex yet, just layering video clips. That is a bit time consuming, but nothing that makes me kow tow.

I might watch one more episode, but so far I'm not impressed.

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I hear On the lot is in danger of being cancelled.

House (re-run) is are now sloted for monday at 7


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They're trying to find the best night and timeslot for the show.  Weren't the first two episodes on Wednesday and Thursday nights?



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I hear On the lot is in danger of being cancelled.

House (re-run) is are now sloted for monday at 7


I've heard all sorts of rumors like that, too.  Don't know if they're true, but I can believe them based on how the quality of this show is about a fraction of what it could potentially be.

By the way, if it's a deal for DreamWorks, why is it airing on Fox?  Do they have some kind of deal going on or something?


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They're trying to find the best night and timeslot for the show.  Weren't the first two episodes on Wednesday and Thursday nights?



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yea, but if they keep switchin up the times, it will loose more of an audience.

this week was monday and tuesday..... so you think u can dance took wednesday and thursday

Dreamworks isnt a tv station, fox made deal with them to take the director, much like american idol and so you think u can dance. the winner gets contacts out with someone else


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this is all so much more confusing than it needs to be. If the show gets cancelled, what happens to the million dollar contract? i'll take it!
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The contest would still go on...it just wouldn't be televised.  People could probably stay up to date online though.

I remember this happening on another show...I think it was the contender rip-off that De La Hoya was on.


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... can I still have the money?
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The show will stabilize in its timeslot in the next week or two.  I don't think that the ratings are in yet to tell if it's a hit or not.  If this show is cancelled from television, it'll probably continue on-line.

I think the first season of Last Comic Standing went from Fox to Comedy Central for lack of ratings.  My Big Fat Obnoxious Boss was actually cancelled in mid-season.


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I just saw the fifth episode...

Where does Michael Bay get off? All his comments were "more style, more editing, more visuals!". Does Michael Bay even remember what it was like making movies without Industrial Light & Magic and a 200-million dollar budget?

And his 'unimpressed' air of confidence really made me queasy.

I did like Sam's movie "Broken Pipe Dreams" the best, but Adam's was good as well.


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I couldn't stand the fact that the one that got the best reviews was the one with the homosexual. Now, I'm not saying anything against homosexuals and don't want to get into that topic. But that film wasn't as well made as some of the other films, had a very cliche "moral", and while it did have interesting visuals, it seemed very easy to make.

The ONLY reason it did so well was because it was about a gay man and because if it wouldn't have won, I'm sure the judges and producers were scared gays would be upset and call it discrimination.

As for Michael Bay, I think it's good to have directors like him judge. Because there are two other judges who are concentrating on telling the filmmakers how to tell better stories, and Michael is trying to get them to have their own "style" of cinematography and whatever. He concentrated more on the technical aspect of it, which is great for this competition because that's where a lot of them struggle.

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