Why is it so hard not to kill people?  I can't seem to do it.  I'm glad to see I'm in good company though.  

I still dream of an OWC that caters to us gore hounds...

Btw Niles, I like all types of horror.  

Obviously, I continue to kid around here.  Submit whatever you've got.  It is a great exercise and a great way to learn and get feedback.

Pia, I hear, ya...someday...maybe...someday.  Until then, I guess we have to suck it up and present something that won't offend...too much.  We'll see.

Still haven't written a single page, and that's the truth!  Does that mean I won't be submitting an entry, or does that mean the vodka hasn't melted my brain enough to create?  Not sure, really.  But rest assured, I am drinking at the moment.

Maybe a shot of Jagie will help?  Yes!  When doesn't it help?  It always helps.

Quoted from Grandma Bear I still dream of an OWC that caters to us gore hounds...

Agreed.  The most entries -- and the most reads -- even from nonparticipants in the challenge.

We just need to keep beating that drum until it happens someday...

To mean, Horror means scaring people really bad.  Heads and limbs flying around plus blood gushing everywhere is slasher.  They're two different animals.

I've written a page and a half and suddenly the words stopped flowing so easily from my penny pencil.  It's gonna be tight if I can make it. . . .

Quoted from steven8 To mean, Horror means scaring people really bad.  Heads and limbs flying around plus blood gushing everywhere is slasher.  They're two different animals.

I think I would disagree with you there...

Quoted from Grandma Bear I think I would disagree with you there...

That's ok.  Plenty of room for all kinds of thinking in this world.

As usual, I have to agree with my dearest Pia (do I sound like Sandra with the "dearest" comment?).

"Slasher" and "heads and limbs flying around plus blood gushing everywhere" do not neccessarily go hand in hand...at all.  I mean, seriously, look at a few of the Grand Daddy's of slasher Heaven...Halloween for instance is basically blood free.

Slasher fare just means that there is a (usually) a masked or faceless killer, stalking people, usually kids.

Heads  and limbs flying can be any genre, actually.  It's just a hardcore aspect that I feel horror should always portray.  It does go hand in hand, whether or not those hands are still connected to a body or not.  It's an R rating...it's violence for violence's sake.

I truly would love to se an OWC in this nature.  It's a tough thing to pull off successfully, actually.  It's easy to throw all the blood and guts and over the top violence in a script or onscreen...but to make it work...to make it hit home is another story completely.

Pia, are you cool with going Dutch to the movies?  I'd feel better that way (and since I'm still an unemployed bum it would work better for my meager bank account).

HaHa! Funny shit!  49 hours or so to go...shit!  I gotta get my big old, ass in gear!  

Quoted from Dreamscale (do I sound like Sandra with the "dearest" comment?).

You always sound like Fred Flintstone when I read your comments. Wilma!!

I don't know.  I think certain movies aren't really that scary.  After reading a bunch of horror scripts over at Movie Poet this month... I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that slasher movies aren't really scary.  They're more of a Crime Drama with lots of blood and guts.  They might make you squirm a bit, but watching an operation might do the same.  I know I squirmed a lot the first time I ever saw a baby being delivered - did it scare me - no - but it really grossed me out.

That isn't to say that blood and guts can't be scary, just that it isn't usually in slasher movies.  The same pretty much goes for torture porn.  They might be squirm worthy or might gross you out but they aren't actually scary - you don't leave them afraid that some psycho killer is going to knock down your door and slice your Achilles tendon.   Whether scary is an effective way to judge horror may be too subjective.

Quoted from bert I disagree.  I would never submit something that I did not think was good. Too often people are too quick to slap any old thing up here on the boards. There may be 40 submissions to read this time.  Perhaps more. If you know what you have written is not your best work -- or even good work -- please do not waste people's time with it.

I don't think it would be a waste of time. The worst thing you can do as a writer is judging your own work. This will only shorten your creativity. You can feel is not good enough (for you) but others might not think like that. What if it's great?!

Think about it.  

The problem I'm having is with the 'family' element.  I guess it can't be too scary and gore's a no-no so I'm struggling to keep it interesting.  I'm not sure I can create a character driven family horror in 12 pages lol.  I'm trying to stay away from slap-stick comedy (I'm sure some will sneak in) so maybe animation is the way to go?  I just need more time!!!  Yet I somehow find the time to browse the boards here lol.

Quoted from Valkyrie I don't think it would be a waste of time. The worst thing you can do as a writer is judging your own work. This will only shorten your creativity. You can feel is not good enough (for you) but others might not think like that. What if it's great?!

While I was speaking to no one in particular, Valkyrie, once you have spent a bit more time on these boards, you will recognize the type I am speaking to.  I did not intend to elaborate on this, but perhaps it is important to clarify.

There are scripts that are poorly written -- and then a plethora of reviews affirming that the script is poorly written -- and then the author's response:

"Yeah, I know this sucks -- it is just a piece of garbage I crapped out in 15 minutes and posted to see what people think."

I paraphrase here, of course -- but this is NOT uncommon -- and these are the people I am asking to refrain.

Not the people who wonder if their work is good, but those who know it is not, who have put forth only the most minimal of effort -- and could care less.

They selfishly undermine the whole process.

Quoted from bert There are scripts that are poorly written -- and then a plethora of reviews affirming that the script is poorly written -- and then the author's response: "Yeah, I know this sucks -- it is just a piece of garbage I crapped out in 15 minutes and posted to see what people think."

I fear I may have started a bit of an arguement here?  I did say I was having doubts about my OWC offering but I know, when completed, if it is not of a decent standard I won't be submitting it.

I agree entirely with you bert, way too many scripts get posted by people who knock them out for fun and then bitch when they are badly recieved.  I wouldn't think about submitting something I wasn't happy with, afterall, if I don't think it's good, why would anyone else?

That wasn't what I was trying to say Bert, if that's how it came out. But if you've tried on a script, but you're unsure of its quality, I still think there's some criticsm which can help you out next time round. I mean, you could post something you're not sure of; but if one person reads it and gives you some good advice on what you can improve; surely your next script can build on that advice. That's what I was trying to say, anyway.

Quoted from Split Second That wasn't what I was trying to say Bert, if that's how it came out. But if you've tried on a script, but you're unsure of its quality, I still think there's some criticsm which can help you out next time round. I mean, you could post something you're not sure of; but if one person reads it and gives you some good advice on what you can improve; surely your next script can build on that advice. That's what I was trying to say, anyway.

This is what I was trying to say, Bert. If you don't want to submmit your work coz you think it's not good, you can be missing a lot of good advice. Even if it's just something you wrote in 15 minutes, it can still have something to work with so you can make it better. Don't you think? of course, everyone is free to do whatever they want.