Quoted from George Willson With the produced scripts, we get the added bonus of trying to figure out why the script we're reading was so darn special that it was chosen over all the other scripts in the world. Even this X-Files scripts. Why this story and not a hundred other X-Files stories that are out there written by professional and fan fic writers? If it sucks, what part of it doesn't suck that made it win out? Was something unique about it that they blew in the production? Is the script better than the movie?.

This is what my problem really is, we had a selection of scripts, some of them specs, some of them by first time writers, some great scripts that we could possibly learn much from. But the popularity contents deems that we might be reading the X-Files.

The X-Files script was not chosen by anyone, Chris Carter is the man in control of the franchise and he wrote the script. It was a pretty crap script to be honest, something anyone here could have done a better job with. The fact is it never had to be good, the film was never about the script because it would have made $50million at the box office if it was just Fox Mulder picking his arse for 90 mins, the fanboys were going to see this movie whatever. I just completely fail to understand how that helps anyone be a better writer.

To be honest, I think that these poll results are not exactly above board. I am sorry for thinking like that, but there is something fishy here and that is what has pissed me off about this whole thing.

We are supposed to be a collection of people who want to become screenwriters, how in God's name did the X-Files get so many votes? Did we open up the voting to IMDB.com members?

Quoted from mcornetto Bottom line I think we should keep the poll - and the script club should do the script chosen without too much complaint

But the script is therefore not being chosen by the people who will actually end up reading the bloody thing. You are saying that the script club members should just let faceless, nameless people vote for any old crap and we should read it without complaint. If there is something one of the actuall members wants to read then tough luck, that decision is to be made by people who never take part.

The whole thing makes no logical sense anymore. If these new people commit to taking part then great but we all know that is not going to happen.

I don't really have a problem with voting, but I think since George adds all of them to the poll, we need to think twice before mentioning a script in the thread so a non serious mention won't end up in the poll. I'm referring to Plan 9 here. It isn't even a script. If that one is chosen, I can say that I will not participate. I have thousands of other produced scripts I rather read.

And I have to agree with mea - choosing not to participate because the script isn't really a script seems like a good reason to not participate.  I doubt I would be reading the Plan 9 transcript if it was chosen.  And yes, we should put only serious choices on the list.

Maybe while we are compiling the list we could go the way of rules of order and have someone second the motion to put the script on the list.  Only scripts that have been seconded can be put on.  Suggestion anyway.  

I believe that it is possible to vote more than once.

Make of that what you will.....

I know that it's possible to vote more than once.  And the fact that you can probably has been abused, but I think for the most part this has been kept pretty honest.  I've seen polls get out of hand here and this isn't and I urge people to keep it that way.    

I think you can only vote once per IP address...

33 votes??

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films I believe that it is possible to vote more than once. Make of that what you will.....

And you don't even have to be logged in to vote.

Quoted from mcornetto Maybe while we are compiling the list we could go the way of rules of order and have someone second the motion to put the script on the list.  Only scripts that have been seconded can be put on.  Suggestion anyway.

I second this idea!

Also, I'm a bit skeptical of the polling system.  I don't really suspect anything underhanded, but why should lurkers be allowed to vote?  I think the script should be chosen by the participants.  I wouldn't be opposed to posting my vote publicly.  In fact, most people have already said what they voted for (Frozen River for me).

When I was in an actual book club, we used to take turns choosing the book.  Maybe that's something that would work?  With a minimum number of participations required before you can choose a script, of course.

The ultimate Script Club..

Thought you might be interested in this, it is actually a really cool thing for someone to have dug up.

A transcript of the original story conference when Steven Speilberg and George Lucas sat down to discuss what Indiana Jones was going to be about. It is fascinating.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/cnoe3r

There's a lot of threads and posts devoted to what you should read -- probably more posts than a lot of the chosen scripts have gotten. My suggestion as outsider type would be to start at the top and work your way through the genres.

Start with action and do a member's script and then next cycle do a produced action script (no older than 3 years).  If you do the poll do have someone nominate and another person second the suggestion.  You should also try to limit your nominees to five or six.

In a mixed poll like this one the favored genres of scifi and horror are likely to win. And you get stuck reading a really long tv episodic.

I like the idea of picking a genre...  

Maybe next time?

I didn’t vote because there’s no way I can participate in this one. I will say I think it’s wrong to vote unless you plan to participate. And if you do plan to participate, I think you should vote and I think you should abide by whatever the selection is, even if you don’t care for it. It’s not all about you.

But I do agree with Pia, crap like Plan 9 shouldn’t be on the poll.


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Quoted from Breanne Mattson I didn't vote because there's no way I can participate in this one. I will say I think it's wrong to vote unless you plan to participate. And if you do plan to participate, I think you should vote and I think you should abide by whatever the selection is, even if you don't care for it. It's not all about you.

I assume that is aimed at me. Fair call, but with 37 votes it is obviously very clear that something has gone very wrong and for that fact I would say no, in this case nobody should just expect people to partake just because they said they would. I or anyone else for that matter do not have to join in if they do not want to. George can remove my vote from the total, not that is makes any difference at all.

I think 37 votes makes this whole thing nothing more than a farce and that is my reason for not joining in. It has nothing to do with my choice not winning. Jesus I have read some really crap scripts in the script club and never decided not to partake just because the script was not my cup of tea.

I do believe however that every vote should count, and especially those from people who actually take part in the script club. It seems to me that those of us who do take part are unable to have a say in what we choose to read. That is just ridiculous.

My reason for not taking part anymore is simple, I am sure that some people are being dishonest and are forcing their chosen script upon the rest of us.

if Jeff can keep a lid on it I will not write anything else. My mind is made up. I did enjoy the script clubs however and know it will be even better now with 36 members on board. Good luck with it all of you.