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and any other "WE" -- Will never be apart of a screenplay I write. You all are free to use them at your discretion. Just don't beat yourselves up about the split in the road decision for too long... It might make you unproductive.
"We see" is completely unnecessary and pointless. It is obvious that anything in a script is something that “we” will see onscreen. It is a waste of 2 words, or 6 spaces. It is amateurish and can be very irritating in a read. No reason to ever use it, whether or not pros use it.
If this was my last day, I'd say:
No Jeff. I love you for your honesty, but I have to disagree with what you are saying here because it's not complete.
"We see" can be used as a construct:
Two definitive words that:
POINT to our object, our subject, or a whole range of notions that flood the mind as "We Fly" above the waters, in the mists of our consciousness.
For me personally, I wouldn't use "We see" carelessly. But I try not to use anything carelessly, although that is hard to do. But my point is, that:
"We See" can be kind of like an exclamation mark, denoting the fact that the reader should take note. Now it's obvious here, that what I'm describing would only be for a discerning writer and reader to discover, and to discover most personally, but I think this is one of the joys when you're reading and writing and writing and reading:
The joy is to get inside of the writer's mind and feel what they feel. If they are solid, you know it. And you also can feel the whole world of "We See" in a totally different manner than trivial arguments like this that work for awhile, but diminish in importance once you recognize the sublimity of what it is you're actually doing.
I honestly never thought I was going to post again in this thread. Who knew?
...kinda regreting starting this thread. Just wanted an answer to one of the many burning questions I have in my never ending quest to become a writer -- not start a war of opinions.
...kinda regreting starting this thread. Just wanted an answer to one of the many burning questions I have in my never ending quest to become a writer -- not start a war of opinions.
No, Sandra...absolutely no reason for "we see" under any circumstances.
"We fly" is a different situation, but obviously one that doesn't come into play in too many scripts.
Complete waste of 6 spaces that will always look like an amateur is at the helm of a sinking ship.
Uh Uh -I- Sugar Pie. You need to look a little bit forward, and you will see what I'm talking about. Don't take my word for it. I don't want you to do that. Your opinion is beautiful as it stands. All I want you to do is "fast forward" how you think a little bit.
...Just kind of "imagine" some kind of circumstance where "We See" would fit?
I know it's hard. But I'm here to help you through it.
Yes, definitely! ...
** Forget the topic again...
We are a complete and virtual community!!! Now what we need is a flag and a flower and...
You know, when I decided writing a screenplay might a cool venture, the first thing I did was to search the internet for example scripts to read. I don't even remember which ones I read, but they were big scripts for name movies, and some of them had "We see" and "We hear" and other We-phrases littered all through them. I loved it. Those phrase really made me feel like I was drawn into the movie itself, right along with the camera. I was determined that my script(s) would use these catchy terms to draw the reader right into the experience as well.
Then I found Simply Scripts, and that changed everything. What I found to make reading a script a wonderful experience, many, many people felt was bane - to say the least. I have since tried excluding those words from my scripts, but there are many places I feel the script would be a more enjoyable read if they were there.
You know, when I decided writing a screenplay might a cool venture, the first thing I did was to search the internet for example scripts to read. I don't even remember which ones I read, but they were big scripts for name movies, and some of them had "We see" and "We hear" and other We-phrases littered all through them. I loved it. Those phrase really made me feel like I was drawn into the movie itself, right along with the camera. I was determined that my script(s) would use these catchy terms to draw the reader right into the experience as well.
Then I found Simply Scripts, and that changed everything. What I found to make reading a script a wonderful experience, many, many people felt was bane - to say the least. I have since tried excluding those words from my scripts, but there are many places I feel the script would be a more enjoyable read if they were there.
I agree and not only that...
But I've just read a script littered with "shit", (you know the one I'm talking about) and it's brilliant!!!
The long and short is that "There it is!"
The Theory of Relativity!
Nothing stands alone and by itself.
Without the contrasting influences, we could not judge or weigh anything. We would not BE what we are:
Not just beasts of the field, but thinking creatures...
Thinking creatures engaged in the most wonderful drama there ever could be.
And it would not be possible if even one of you weren't here to perform that action.
You will often see the term “we see” in scripts which are transcribed and listed on the web.
You will sometimes see the term used in a shooting script, particularly if the director or producer wrote the script.
The term is used to imply the “WE” is the cinema audience and the “SEE” is what is happening on the screen.
But in fact it is recognised as lazy writing and should be avoided at all costs by new writers and predominantly in Spec Scripts.
As a professional reader for a studio and employed to write critiques on scripts, if I see “we see” in a screenplay I know that even if I like the story, we will have to engage a better writer to prepare the screenplay for an investor, for actor consideration and project development.
The writer by including “we see” has indicated they are an amateur and with the sort of sums involved in making movies now days, producers cannot afford to risk their reputation on the work of an inexperienced writer.
Just do exactly as I say, and everything will be alright. Now...close your eyes...step forward, my children. A little more...that's it. One more step. You may feel like you're falling, but don't worry, I'll be there to catch you. Trust me...
Oh yeah, these topics can go on forever. The last couple of times it came up, it went for 120 posts or so and then we locked that one and started a new one for it to go on about that long again. It's a hot, hot topic, and frankly, it usually boils down to someone wanting to write their script a certain way.
Go ahead and write how you're going to write if it makes you happy. I mean, your first draft is all yours.
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