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Look and learn... From a script written by no less than the number of people it takes to be called a "TEAM". Yes, let's do this children. Not to mention most anything you find is going to be the shooting script opposed to the spec script.
Until we learn who Ralph is, and accept him as some thought of authority, he'll just be little more than a troll. Maybe a film student trying to show how much he's learned last semester.
Ralph’s email address is macchior@ymail.com. From that we can derive that Ralph is a huge Ralph Macchio fan.
A small Google search suggests that Ralph is most likely the same macchior who is the president (and sole member) of an unofficial Growing Pains fan club.
Honestly, do we really need to know anymore about him?
Look and learn... From a script written by no less than the number of people it takes to be called a "TEAM". Yes, let's do this children. Not to mention most anything you find is going to be the shooting script opposed to the spec script.
Firstly, there are lots of spec scripts out there Baltis, if you look.
Secondly, shooting drafts are highly useful to screenwriters too. These are ultimately the drafts in which all the problems and issues have been ironed out. i.e. in the eyes of the producers the script is ready to film. Whether we agree with the producers or not is neither here nor there, these are the guys buying our scripts. There is a lot to be learned from shooting drafts.
If you, or anyone else, do not think there is a lot you can learn from produced screenplays, especially screenplays of the calibre of Pixar, which essentially are amongst the best screenplays ever written then I probably do have to wonder.
Regardless, somebody makes a post and links to a script and all he gets is a load of abuse. Some people on this site are nothing but mindless bullies. Cut it out, everyone, it is not nice.
Firstly, there are lots of spec scripts out there Baltis, if you look.
Secondly, shooting drafts are highly useful to screenwriters too. These are ultimately the drafts in which all the problems and issues have been ironed out. i.e. in the eyes of the producers the script is ready to film. Whether we agree with the producers or not is neither here nor there, these are the guys buying our scripts. There is a lot to be learned from shooting drafts.
If you, or anyone else, do not think there is a lot you can learn from produced screenplays, especially screenplays of the calibre of Pixar, which essentially are amongst the best screenplays ever written then I probably do have to wonder.
Regardless, somebody makes a post and links to a script and all he gets is a load of abuse. Some people on this site are nothing but mindless bullies. Cut it out, everyone, it is not nice.
1st -- Never said there weren't "spec" scripts floating around. Tons of them can be found right here on this very message board. There is a huge difference from Authors hand to producers team, though. I get tons of Spec scripts. I have an original "CreepShow" screenplay. A real one. I also have the original "Groundhog Day" screenplay too. I never said they didn't exist. I said more often than not you will read scripts that are/have been rewritten time and time again.
2nd -- Reading in-general will teach you "some" things about screenwriting but if all you are reading are produced scripts then maybe you should go ahead and jump into the role of a producer instead of a writer. You're not using the proper components of "I" am the writer and there is no "I" in team. When I looked at that script, and this is just me, I didn't get anything out of it other than, this is a communal effort, and I wonder what ideas each writer have brought to the table individually.
And I also notice, and many will, how similar the structural writing is very similar to my work. Look how I format my screenplays, minus the directing and spacing, and see the broken action slugs? The short sentences. All of that is replicated in my OWC even. The use of the double dash as a lead through, opposed to a period or coma.
Oh, and, best screenlay ever written is a pretty general and opinionated assumption at best, by the way.
3rd -- I've sold scripts. I know how it works and how it goes. Everything is subject to change and what turns off this guy/gal might be a hit with this guy or gal. I get it and I dig it... I just have a set way of doing things and I like how that's worked for me. I'm not telling everyone to not listen, just be selective of what you choose to soak in when you do. Be the sponge but know when to purge.
That's all I got.
P.S. If it is Ralph, the Karate Kid, Macchio then do you remember Tekken 6 + Pax... Guy named Baltis?
1st -- Never said there weren't "spec" scripts floating around. Tons of them can be found right here on this very message board. There is a huge difference from Authors hand to producers team, though. I get tons of Spec scripts. I have an original "CreepShow" screenplay. A real one. I also have the original "Groundhog Day" screenplay too. I never said they didn't exist. I said more often than not you will read scripts that are/have been rewritten time and time again.
2nd -- Reading in-general will teach you "some" things about screenwriting but if all you are reading are produced scripts then maybe you should go ahead and jump into the role of a producer instead of a writer. You're not using the proper components of "I" am the writer and there is no "I" in team. When I looked at that script, and this is just me, I didn't get anything out of it other than, this is a communal effort, and I wonder what ideas each writer have brought to the table individually.
And I also notice, and many will, how similar the structural writing is very similar to my work. Look how I format my screenplays, minus the directing and spacing, and see the broken action slugs? The short sentences. All of that is replicated in my OWC even. The use of the double dash as a lead through, opposed to a period or coma.
Oh, and, best screenlay ever written is a pretty general and opinionated assumption at best, by the way.
3rd -- I've sold scripts. I know how it works and how it goes. Everything is subject to change and what turns off this guy/gal might be a hit with this guy or gal. I get it and I dig it... I just have a set way of doing things and I like how that's worked for me. I'm not telling everyone to not listen, just be selective of what you choose to soak in when you do. Be the sponge but know when to purge.
That's all I got.
I am sure there is a point in there somewhere, I really am.
I appreciate you look at scripts and notice things like double dashes, short sentences and directing etc.. That's cool, thats your thing. When I talk about there being a lot to learn from produced scripts I am not talking about any of that. I am talking about what's in the script, not how it is written.
We are coming from different angles, again, thats cool.
P.S. I never said best screenplay ever written, I agree that would be subject to opinion. I actually said Pixar screenplays are among the best ever written. That is not subjective, that is just the truth. Anybody who does not agree with that is wrong.
I am sure there is a point in there somewhere, I really am.
I appreciate you look at scripts and notice things like double dashes, short sentences and directing etc.. That's cool, thats your thing. When I talk about there being a lot to learn from produced scripts I am not talking about any of that. I am talking about what's in the script, not how it is written.
We are coming from different angles, again, thats cool.
P.S. I never said best screenplay ever written, I agree that would be subject to opinion. I actually said Pixar screenplays are among the best ever written. That is not subjective, that is just the truth. Anybody who does not agree with that is wrong.
When I read a script I soak all of it in and "purge" what I don't agree with. I get rid of it. I study every aspect of a script. The ledgers. The spacing. The dialog chains. Every tiny detail. Now, if you're speaking of progression of plot, I understand. I think Toy Story 3 was among one of the best films to be released in 2 years. It was really very good. It hit all the right elements at just the right times.
I'm not refuting Pixar's worth or their films, either. These are capable writers to be sure, but I am refuting teams of writers working on a script opposed to just where the story came from originally. The 3 guys credited did not sit down and collectively come up with the script and write it -- Each one writing their own draft and turning it into one ultimate draft. There are other writers involved here.
So, at the end of the day, I'm saying there are better places and subjects to learn from than this script. To dumb down a board and all the work they do and all the hours they spent getting to where they are, only to be told
"You know nothing... Everything you've written, read, thought and felt was valuable sucks! & the only thing you need to look to in the future is this link I've bestowed upon you... Yes, it's a link to Toy Story 3. A script written no less than 50 times by no less than 13 writers. Learn my children! LEARN!"
When I read a script I soak all of it in and "purge" what I don't agree with. I get rid of it. I study every aspect of a script. The ledgers. The spacing. The dialog chains. Every tiny detail. Now, if you're speaking of progression of plot, I understand. I think Toy Story 3 was among one of the best films to be released in 2 years. It was really very good. It hit all the right elements at just the right times.
I'm not refuting Pixar's worth or their films, either. These are capable writers to be sure, but I am refuting teams of writers working on a script opposed to just where the story came from originally. The 3 guys credited did not sit down and collectively come up with the script and write it -- Each one writing their own draft and turning it into one ultimate draft. There are other writers involved here.
So, at the end of the day, I'm saying there are better places and subjects to learn from than this script. To dumb down a board and all the work they do and all the hours they spent getting to where they are, only to be told
"You know nothing... Everything you've written, read, thought and felt was valuable sucks! & the only thing you need to look to in the future is this link I've bestowed upon you... Yes, it's a link to Toy Story 3. A script written no less than 50 times by no less than 13 writers. Learn my children! LEARN!"
Basically, if not a little dramatic...
I get you, and do agree, to a point, in what you are saying. Your comments are fair enough.
I do however think that measuring ourselves against the very best is not a bad thing either, to strive for excellence does mean being excellent and that is best measured by comparing ourselves to excellence in the process. If you want to be great at anything there is no use learning from the average examples.
Imagine that one of us did write a screenplay as good as something like this, on our own! That would mean we are a freaking screenwriting genius....get over here Shane Black and kiss my Schlong genius.
Now that is not a bad thing to aim for and this script is certainly not a bad thing to learn from.
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