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I'm doing a re-write on a script of mine, it's a set in library.
The slugs go something like...
Quoted Text
FADE IN:
INT. COLLEGE - LIBRARY - DAY
Scene description ect.
People make their way toward the --
STUDY AREA
-- where they
ect.
AT THE FRONT ENTRANCE
Random old lady sits behind a desk.
Dude enters
FADE OUT:
I decided to ditch the FULL SLUGS for the MINIS, because I think things become less "broken up" with them.
I assume it's acceptable to use a FULL SLUG to refer to them later on , because later in the script I start up in a specific location (STUDY AREA), within the library, from a FADE IN:
And I assume I'd have to switch to FULL SLUGS if there is a time gap between the specific areas.
For example:
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FADE IN:
INT. COLLEGE - LIBRARY - STUDY AREA - DAY
Shit happens.
FADE OUT:
FADE IN: <--- TRANSITION TO SIGNIFY TIME PASSING.
INT. COLLEGE - LIBRARY - ENTRANCE - DAY
Shit happens later.
...but that doesn't seem right somehow.
Would you consider this an inconsistent approach?
My location is built like this:
LIBRARY - MASTER SETTING STUDY AREA - SUB LO. ENTRANCE - SUB LO.
Can I have a full slug which includes a SUB LO, and move to another SUB LO within the scene, using a mini?
God, I'm kind of explaining the situation messily here.
Basically..
MINI-SLUGS lack the time element, and there's a time gap between two specific areas in the library later on, and I'm not sure if I can express that with mini-slugs.
So would it be best to go back to full slugs for everything, or use a mixture of both?
And the other problem was, can I use a mini-slug to go from sub-location to sub-location, if one of the sub-locations is included in the scene header?
Fuck, maybe I'm over-thinking things but I want to get some consistency here.
Mini-slugs are fine if you are in a different area within the same location, so your fist bit is fine.
Your hybrid slug is fine where it does not confuse.
Your last question is a bit confusing -- you're setting the entire piece in a library? That's implied earlier on, so your mini wouldn't be wrong, but your full would-- if your are going for mini's why then go for a full slug? Is the library open plan? Be clear and consistent, I think that the more important thing.
Mini-slugs are fine if you are in a different area within the same location, so your fist bit is fine.
Your hybrid slug is fine where it does not confuse.
Your last question is a bit confusing -- you're setting the entire piece in a library? That's implied earlier on, so your mini wouldn't be wrong, but your full would-- if your are going for mini's why then go for a full slug? Is the library open plan? Be clear and consistent, I think that the more important thing.
Yeah, I'm confusing myself.
Basically, I have a number of scenes which take place within a LIBRARY (this is my MASTER SETTING)... and the slug which I give it is...
INT. COLLEGE LIBRARY - DAY
Beneath that, I've used MINI-SLUGS...
STUDY AREA
AT THE FRONT ENTRANCE
ect.
Later on in the script I FADE OUT:, and then I FADE IN:
And the SLUG following that transition is...
INT. COLLEGE LIBRARY - STUDY AREA - DAY
Now one of the sub-locations is apart of the SCENE HEADER, as opposed to it being a MINI-SLUG like earlier. Is it okay to do that? I can't follow a FADE IN: with a MINI, so I don't really have any other choice here.
The scene starts in the STUDY AREA, right? But my next scene occurs LATER, at the FRONT ENTRANCE. I can't use a MINI because MINI's have no time element, and I'm not sure if I can use a FRONT ENTRANCE mini under the STUDY AREA scene header anyway so...
So would I have to use a FULL SLUG again? Or could I just write...
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INT. COLLEGE - STUDY AREA - DAY
Shit happens. People die. Oh well.
AT THE FRONT ENTRANCE - LATER
Or is that not CORRECT? To have a hybrid mini with a time element.
I'm guessing it would be better to do...
INT. COLLEGE LIBRARY - STUDY AREA - AFTERNOON
Shit happens.
FADE TO BLACK:
FADE IN:
INT. COLLEGE LIBRARY - FRONT ENTRANCE - (LATER)
I would do it like that, providing it's acceptable to include a sub-location in a scene header, a location which you previously used a mini for.
Max, I think the thing that's fucking with you is the passing of time in the same setting...and the FADE OUTs and FADE INs, again, in the same setting.
Sometimes, this works...and even works well, but more often than not, it doesn't work well, and doesn't look good in a filmed version....as in it's often tough to "see" the passing of time when you don't change locales.
So, the simple question is - can you go to a different setting and then back to the same setting, which will make the passing time more apparent?
As to the Full and Mini Slugs, off the top of my head, just quickly looking at what you showed as examples, I think you're OK. Just be consistent, and as others said, be clear.
Max, I think the theing that's fucking with you is the passing of time in the same setting...and the FADE OUTs and FADE INs, again, in the same setting.
Sometimes, this works...and even works well, but more often than not, it doesn't work well, and doesn't look good in a filmed version....as in it's often tough to "see" the passing of time when you don't change locales.
So, the simple question is - can you go to a different setting and then back to the same setting, which will make the passing time more apparent?
As to the Full and Mini Slugs, off the top of my head, just quickly looking at what you showed as examples, I think you're OK. Just be consistent, and as others said, be clear.
Hope this helps.
Yeah, it's the time thingy most likely.
My short will be up soon anyways, once the lock on submissions has lifted, just fiddling out the details, ya know.
I'll watch some tennis tommorow and work it on then, lol.
Max, I think the theing that's fucking with you is the passing of time in the same setting...and the FADE OUTs and FADE INs, again, in the same setting.
Sometimes, this works...and even works well, but more often than not, it doesn't work well, and doesn't look good in a filmed version....as in it's often tough to "see" the passing of time when you don't change locales.
So, the simple question is - can you go to a different setting and then back to the same setting, which will make the passing time more apparent?
As to the Full and Mini Slugs, off the top of my head, just quickly looking at what you showed as examples, I think you're OK. Just be consistent, and as others said, be clear.
Hope this helps.
Yeah, I dunno
Some people may think that if you use..
INT. LIBRARY - STUDY AREA - DAY
...as a slug, then using mini's of different sub locations underneath ain't correct... because they might say "Your scene header says STUDY AREA... but now we're at the entrance with a mini-slug"
I'm sure that's correct though, because it's a sub-location, so a mini slug is appropriate.... even if another sub-location is included in the full scene header.
If there's a change of time between the scenes in different areas, I figure mini's ain't the best way because it's assumed everything is continuous with them.
But yeah, can you use a sub-location mini... under a full slug... which includes another sub-lo?
But yeah, can you use a sub-location mini... under a full slug... which includes another sub-lo?
No. For yea shalt not confuse, but readily clarify.
INT. LIBRARY- DAY
Exciting things occurring...
FADE TO BLACK:
FADE IN:
LIBRARY ENTRANCE
More fun...
...may not be to everyone's taste, but is quite clear.
If you use that method, there is no need for 'LATER' as this has already been suggested. Also, there is always the option of fully slugging if that keeps things clear.
You can also try, as has been suggested, to indicate the passage of time in your action lines.
No. For yea shalt not confuse, but readily clarify.
INT. LIBRARY- DAY
Exciting things occurring...
FADE TO BLACK:
FADE IN:
LIBRARY ENTRANCE
More fun...
...may not be to everyone's taste, but is quite clear.
If you use that method, there is no need for 'LATER' as this has already been suggested. Also, there is always the option of fully slugging if that keeps things clear.
You can also try, as has been suggested, to indicate the passage of time in your action lines.
Hmm, I'm sure I've read somewhere that it's allowed.
Dreamscale has done it in his Fade to White script, so I'm going to assume it's acceptable, at least for now, or at least until he gets back to me.
He did it like...
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INT. COMMERCIAL AIRLINER - COCKPIT - NIGHT
CAPTAIN BLACKBOURN, 40's, friendly, heavyset face, is at the helm of the plane, his Co-PILOT to his right.
CABIN
The plane looks to be about half full.
See what I mean? There's a sub-location in his scene header, but underneath that we go into the cabin via a mini.
I'm guessing by the same token, it would be equally acceptable to go into the front entrance area like...
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INT. LIBRARY - STUDY AREA - DAY
People fall over. ENTRANCE
People laugh.
As long as the master setting is there in the scene header, I think it's alright.
Unless you have an EXT scene showing the "master setting" in full, you're always first going to have an INT scene which starts with the master heading and the breaks down from there.
EXT. MASTER'S HOUSE
It's obvious a Master lives in this big fucking place, as there's no way in Hell a Sub could afford it.
INT. MASTER'S HOUSE - BAR
The MASTER makes a perfect martini, while feeling up the buxom buttass naked babe standing next to him.
He swats her perfectly shaped ass, as he heads into the...
LIBRARY
...where another buxom buttass naked babe waits, slowly tracing circles over her more than abundant rack.
Unless you have an EXT scene showing the "master setting" in full, you're always first going to have an INT scene which starts with the master heading and the breaks down from there.
EXT. MASTER'S HOUSE
It's obvious a Master lives in this big fucking place, as there's no way in Hell a Sub could afford it.
INT. MASTER'S HOUSE - BAR
The MASTER makes a perfect martini, while feeling up the buxom buttass naked babe standing next to him.
He swats her perfectly shaped ass, as he heads into the...
LIBRARY
...where another buxom buttass naked babe waits, slowly tracing circles over her more than abundant rack.
It's entirely up to you how you do it, but the point is not to confuse, that's all. In Dream's version there is only going to be one cabin, I would have thought, so it's clear what he's referring to.
In your version am I clear that you are referring to the entrance to the library or the entrance to the study?
It's entirely up to you how you do it, but the point is not to confuse, that's all. In Dream's version there is only going to be one cabin, I would have thought, so it's clear what he's referring to.
In your version am I clear that you are referring to the entrance to the library or the entrance to the study?
It's clarified earlier in the script really, it's all one big place. There's a front desk at the entrance so...
and the action following the slug says "dude sits at the front desk" ect.
I'll probably change it to front entrance, just to clarify.