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Soap Hands
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We have that already.  It's called sales tax.


It would be in addition to the sales tax.

Kind of like the additional tax on cigarettes that we have in California. I even already think there is an additional tax on yachts, but you see my point...


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I also find it perplexing when average Joes think parties like the Republican Party represent their best interests. You gotta be kidding me.


They don't share your world view. Their values may also be different.  

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The thing is, petrol prices affect everything. Anything you buy has to be shipped unless you're buying it from source, so they will charge the retailer more - who will then charge us more. Even someone who doesn't actually buy petrol is affected by high petrol prices.


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My gosh this has got very political!

Don't fall for the "food shortage" or "food crisis" rubbish that is being talked about at the moment, there is no food shortage at all.

The issue is that food has become too expensive, but that has little to do with supply and demand, nor has it anything to do with corn being turned into fuel. The best excuse I heard the other day was that it was all McDonalds fault for stealing all the land to graze cattle!!  The truth is far more simpler and is that all the parasites now that they have raped the housing market and low income credit market have decided to start buying commodities and jacking the prices up as high as they will go. That will continue until they have got as much as they can out of it and move onto something else.

They call this "speculative trading" I call it "bunch of greedy bastards stuffing the world up in order to make a profit".  Sounds too simple to cause such a worldwide problem, but it is true.
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$3.57 here in Normal, IL. The difference between us and Europe is that there tax is a lot higher because of all the government programs that help the citizens of those countries. Here in the good old USA, we are just getting bent over with only and empty wallet and a sore ass to show for it!
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$3.62 for the cheap gas stations, up to $3.75 at the bigger name places

It must be hurting the gas stations, too. A local station was just on the news for saying they were selling plus and super as well as regular gas, when in actuality all three nozzels were hooked up to pump regular gas.
I'm glad they got caught.

Cindy


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The Great Depression Part 2

Hollywood loves a crisis. In particular, it loves an economic one. This isn't because sub-prime mortgage meltdowns make for good screenplays - they don't - but because cinema attendance booms typically during a recession.

The trend will be tested today with the opening of Iron Man , the latest Marvel Comics adaptation, starring Robert Downey Jr in the superhero role of the title. Analysts say that the film could take as much as $80 million (£40 million) over the weekend as Americans mob the cinemas in search of a distraction from all the talk of $120-a-barrel oil, unstoppable inflation, and the falling property market.

Even if American audiences avoid Iron Man, the economic crisis means that Hollywood will almost certainly get its money back from international sales. Thanks to the weak dollar, an £11.50 film ticket sold in London is worth $22.68 to a film studio in Los Angeles, compared with $18.40 five years ago.

Iron Man is the first in a series of “event films” to be released between May and September, in an attempt by Hollywood to break last summer's season box-office record of $4.18 billion. Other big hits are expected to include the eagerly awaited Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, and a dozen or so new franchises, including Hancock (starring Will Smith), the animated King Fu Panda, and the thriller Wanted.


“Consumers cut back on expensive purchases during recessions but also typically shift what discretionary spending money they have left to affordable activities, such as going to the movies.” This economic anomaly was first observed during the Great Depression, when even the Dust Bowl refugees used what little money they had to pay for admissions to monster movies and Marx Brothers comedies.

Now, with America supposedly on the brink of Great Depression II (like most sequels, its arrival has been hyped in advance), studio executives are closing their eyes and seeing dollar signs.

The data seems to support the optimism. During the last recession of 2001, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone became a $1 billion smash, while box office revenues for the year rose 9 per cent to $8.4 billion. A decade earlier, in 1991, when the US economy was reeling from defence spending cuts caused by the end of the Cold War, Hollywood released Terminator 2: Judgment Day, which took more than half a billion dollars.

But not everyone is convinced that Hollywood is in for such a good ride. They point to film attendances down by about 6 per cent this year and that Americans now have many other ways to distract themselves.

Chris Ayres, Times Online.
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Its crazy. I was stuck (well the bus I was on) in a traffic jam for over an hour yesterday due to Taxi drivers being on strike and protesting over the price of Gas / Petrol... in Scotland.  Which would be fine if it wasn't for the fact I live in England not Scotland.


check out episodes 1 - 3 of Mister D.
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Its crazy. I was stuck (well the bus I was on) in a traffic jam for over an hour yesterday due to Taxi drivers being on strike and protesting over the price of Gas / Petrol... in Scotland.  Which would be fine if it wasn't for the fact I live in England not Scotland.


So it's the taxi driver's fault is it?

This is what I don't understand; the oil companies are sticking it to us and we all get angry with everybody except the oil companies. For example, if the governments of Australia, The US or wherever started getting heavy with the oil companies or any other irresponsible corporations, instead of seeing the error of their ways, the companies would retaliate, which would probably mean a rise in unemployment in those countries. But here's the kicker, the people of the effected countries wouldn't blame the corporations and boycott their products, they'd blame the government and throw them out of office at the next election. This is why governments won't get heavy with these fuckers, because the general public isn't prepared to take a few hits in order to win the fight, but the irony is we’re getting hit anyway.


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I never said it was the fault of the taxi drivers.  I said it was daft that taxi drivers in england were protesting about the price of petrol in scotland which is technically a different country.  If they had been protesting the price of petrol in england then all power to them...but they were up in arms about the price of it in scotland and unless they all travel to scotland just to refill I don't understand what they were worked up about.


Yeah perhaps the fact I have never and will never own a car and even want to learn how to drive might be making me blind to the problem but still it disrupted my day.


check out episodes 1 - 3 of Mister D.
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Maybe you should talk to a taxi driver about it. They might be able to help clear up some of your confusion.
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Corporate greed running amok...And the governments they own are not likely to do a thing about it...


Failure is only the opportunity to begin again more intelligently - Dove Chocolate Wrapper
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This is what I don't understand; the oil companies are sticking it to us and we all get angry with everybody except the oil companies.


I really don't want to be put into the position of defending the oil companies, I'm sure they are taking advantage of the situation they have, but still, I think it's lopsided to think it's all the fault of the "evil corporations", or if only the government  had enough balls to institute price caps or something. If they did that it would only create other, potentially worse, problems.

The fact of the matter is that oil costs a lot because it is a scarce resource that a lot of, and growing number of, people want/need.

In my view, anyway you cut it, it comes down to that.


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Corporate greed running amok...And the governments they own are not likely to do a thing about it...


If the corporations own the government, then why do we have the second highest corporate tax rate in the world?

Do they have a lot of influence? Yes. But do the people(of course the people working for corporations don't count as people, no souls ) also have a lot of influence? I think so.  

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Don't forget the small "mom and pop" shops. We employ most of the people, but when people talk about corporations they assume that they are all the giant evil corporation employing thousands and will do anything for money.

If our taxes were less, we might actually be able to hire more people...


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Quoted from Soap Hands

I really don't want to be put into the position of defending the oil companies, I'm sure they are taking advantage of the situation they have, but still, I think it's lopsided to think it's all the fault of the "evil corporations", or if only the government  had enough balls to institute price caps or something. If they did that it would only create other, potentially worse, problems.



Such as?



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Such as?


I guess you're referring to the other problems I mentioned?

Well, the obvious one is massive shortages. Which in turn will have huge consequences. If you think the economy is horrible because four percent of people with mortgages can't pay them, imagine the consequences of people without gas to get to work or transport goods. Problems with the American economy will of course have consequences for the economic well being of the rest of the world.

And since, I guess, you believe we went to Iraq for oil, you can just imagine the wars that might start. We'll get that crazed look in our eyes and anythings game.

I'm sure there are many more things one could speculate but I'll let your imagination work on that. But to return to the main point of my previous point, the source of the problem is a lot of people wanting/needing a scarce resource. And like me said, the only two solution are use less/find more or pay more(if there are price caps you'll still pay more, perhaps just not in money).

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